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TT
03-14-2005, 05:25 PM
About the B-Spec driver, mine was a nightmare at the ring with the CLK.. it would be usefull to decide before the start when he will have to pit (how many laps), because he basically was doing one too much, arrived at the pits with RED tires, went long.. and then for a good 3 minutes he tried to go THROUGH the wall... finally he settled for another lap.. obviously I decided to restart.. this time with the Minolta Toyota and for now it is doing well.. 15 hours into the race, probably 120 laps done, but I think he always come back to the pits with no more fuel

Pimp Racer
03-14-2005, 05:38 PM
if any of you are wnating an older (pre 70') car tor ace in multiple tournaments then get the buick special. It doesnt cost much, and all you need to do is whack a turbocharger/supercharger on it (i forget which) and it has very nearly 1000bhp, it will absolutely murder anything else the computer cares to pit against it, and is just as quick as a modded DB9. (I have both)

Alas, i know cant play GT4 as my playstation vandalised itself a little while ago and went through 2 copies of GTA:SA. I borrowed a friends ps2 over the weekend but he took it back yesterday, so i now have the worlds best driving sim, and no means of playing it.

BASTARD! :(


:lol: That sucks ass man! :(

BTW - from the first page... this is rather a presumptuous post... if you are that concerned about copyright (and I see you have taken OTHER peoples images and put them on your website) don't post them - or at the least post with a watermark and move on.

http://www.angelfire.com/ult/gt4hotspot/



DONT COPY ANY MATERIAL FOR YOUR PERSONAL WEBSITE USE WITHOUT PERMISSION FROM ME PLEASE! YOU CAN USE IT FOR YOUR PERSONAL USE ONLY UNLESS GIVEN PERMISSION!

Not really that much concerened as I sound but it would be kinda cool if they take it with permission as I took all the images with permission except the ones from http://i-bbs.sijex.net/imageBoard.jsp?id=gt4&count=0
( I had no way to contact them and was a bit lazy to some how get that page translated. )




Instead of coding in some actual AI, they instead decided to code 50 different ways to hear a camera click in Photo Mode.

Yeah thats true. I kinda like GT4 but then again I kinda dislike it as much as I like it. They could have made this game very perfect if they took their time but because of too many damn fuck up's on their parts I guess they finally said fuck it just release the damn game.

I hope they release a 100% FINISHED version of GT4 rather this this bullshit 75% or 85% or whatever. But as much as I am pissed off about it I am still happy also.

Pimp Racer
03-14-2005, 08:15 PM
Dude! That Pink Clio video is kickass! I liked how you saved the car on the first jump!

dingo
03-14-2005, 08:27 PM
stop complaining and just play the game, or if its got so many problems then play something else :wink:

TT
03-14-2005, 09:28 PM
Just got the Formula 1 car.. and finally owned the Sauber at Tsukuba wet...

Now.. I can't access GT Auto with it.. no oil change... weird

Pimp Racer
03-14-2005, 09:31 PM
stop complaining and just play the game, or if its got so many problems then play something else :wink:

:lol:

Just got the Formula 1 car.. and finally owned the Sauber at Tsukuba wet...

Now.. I can't access GT Auto with it.. no oil change... weird

:D What color is yours?

RC45
03-14-2005, 09:35 PM
stop complaining and just play the game, or if its got so many problems then play something else :wink:

We waited 4 years, and paid $50 - we are entitled to complain :)

The game really is a kickcass hot-lap game, and a second rate racing/driving simulator.. ;)

If they spent more time on the network/linked game configs, it would be the ideal 2+ player hot-lap game.

BTW, I figured out how to get the stupid B-Spec driver to do a good job. Give the little twit a Formula 1 car.

Even he/she can't screw that up.. :)

TT
03-14-2005, 09:42 PM
stop complaining and just play the game, or if its got so many problems then play something else :wink:

:lol:

Just got the Formula 1 car.. and finally owned the Sauber at Tsukuba wet...

Now.. I can't access GT Auto with it.. no oil change... weird

:D What color is yours?

It is green/yellow.. some sort of rapper combo (rappers always say green and gold are the colors of money :roll: )

So it is normal? An F1 car never needs new oil?

Pimp Racer
03-14-2005, 10:02 PM
stop complaining and just play the game, or if its got so many problems then play something else :wink:

We waited 4 years, and paid $50 - we are entitled to complain :)

The game really is a kickcass hot-lap game, and a second rate racing/driving simulator.. ;)

If they spent more time on the network/linked game configs, it would be the ideal 2+ player hot-lap game.

BTW, I figured out how to get the stupid B-Spec driver to do a good job. Give the little twit a Formula 1 car.

Even he/she can't screw that up.. :)


Yeah we can talk about the bad parts of GT4 when I complete it. :D I still think that GT2 is the best GT ever! I have my resons and will discuss it later when we get "tired" of GT4. :lol:

stop complaining and just play the game, or if its got so many problems then play something else :wink:

:lol:

Just got the Formula 1 car.. and finally owned the Sauber at Tsukuba wet...

Now.. I can't access GT Auto with it.. no oil change... weird

:D What color is yours?

It is green/yellow.. some sort of rapper combo (rappers always say green and gold are the colors of money :roll: )

So it is normal? An F1 car never needs new oil?

Hey! I got that same exact one! I wanted the red with the silver GT logo! But anyways I guess you dont need to change oil on it for some odd reson?

dingo
03-14-2005, 10:21 PM
It is green/yellow.. some sort of rapper combo (rappers always say green and gold are the colors of money :roll: )



Green and gold are Australia's national colours (as of 19 April 1984 anyway)......so I think your car must have some Aussie influence :P

RC45
03-14-2005, 10:24 PM
It is green/yellow.. some sort of rapper combo (rappers always say green and gold are the colors of money :roll: )



Green and gold are Australia's national colours (as of 19 April 1984 anyway)......so I think your car must have some Aussie influence :P

Green and Gold - colour of the Springbokke as well - you know, the rugger players that kick the Wallaby's arses.. ;) :P

TT
03-14-2005, 10:24 PM
Ok for the oil.. but you can't even buy harder or softer tires afaik :? crap :bah:

Pimp Racer
03-14-2005, 10:29 PM
Ok for the oil.. but you can't even buy harder or softer tires afaik :? crap :bah:

Yeah but do you think its really nesscary to?

TT
03-14-2005, 10:32 PM
yes, try to do an enduro at the ring with the medium compound tires

RC45
03-14-2005, 10:32 PM
Ok for the oil.. but you can't even buy harder or softer tires afaik :? crap :bah:

Yeah but do you think its really nesscary to?

Actually it would be good to have harder tyres - you can burn up the medium race in just a few laps, resulting in too many pit stops.

Can the F1 car even make one lap of the 'Ring without the tyres melting off the rims?

TT
03-14-2005, 10:36 PM
Ok for the oil.. but you can't even buy harder or softer tires afaik :? crap :bah:

Yeah but do you think its really nesscary to?

Actually it would be good to have harder tyres - you can burn up the medium race in just a few laps, resulting in too many pit stops.

Can the F1 car even make one lap of the 'Ring without the tyres melting off the rims?

Considering it can barely manage 14 laps at the Motegi small oval, definitely not

Pimp Racer
03-14-2005, 10:41 PM
Ok for the oil.. but you can't even buy harder or softer tires afaik :? crap :bah:

Yeah but do you think its really nesscary to?

Actually it would be good to have harder tyres - you can burn up the medium race in just a few laps, resulting in too many pit stops.

Can the F1 car even make one lap of the 'Ring without the tyres melting off the rims?

Considering it can barely manage 14 laps at the Motegi small oval, definitely not

Do'h you got a point there. But you will probably be killing the others unless its an all F1 field so it wouldnt really effect you if you pitted every lap except alot of time wasted and way slow lap times.

RC45
03-14-2005, 10:45 PM
Ok for the oil.. but you can't even buy harder or softer tires afaik :? crap :bah:

Yeah but do you think its really nesscary to?

Actually it would be good to have harder tyres - you can burn up the medium race in just a few laps, resulting in too many pit stops.

Can the F1 car even make one lap of the 'Ring without the tyres melting off the rims?

Considering it can barely manage 14 laps at the Motegi small oval, definitely not

Time to bust out the "no tyre wear" hack... :twisted:

dingo
03-14-2005, 10:49 PM
Green and Gold - colour of the Springbokke as well - you know, the rugger players that kick the Wallaby's arses.. ;) :P

you mean the same ones that lost in the QF's at the 03 WC, while the Aussies made it to the final? :P
Oh, and also the same ones the Aussies beat on the way to the 1999 World Cup? :twisted:

Pimp Racer
03-14-2005, 11:17 PM
Right click and save as! Short video.

Mitsubishi HSR II Concept 89 Video (http://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=308DLOMP8R4ND2P2T20B8HEVCJ)

*EDIT*

Saw it on GTP. Shows the various body part movenments of the car!

5vz-fe
03-15-2005, 12:09 AM
thanks for the vid Pimp Racer, the flap up wings sure is interesting.

RC45
03-15-2005, 12:15 AM
Right click and save as! Short video.

Mitsubishi HSR II Concept 89 Video (http://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=308DLOMP8R4ND2P2T20B8HEVCJ)

*EDIT*

Saw it on GTP. Shows the various body part movenments of the car!

Using the one from my list of "aquired cars" proved interesting, but not the greatest car out there.

Toronto
03-15-2005, 01:02 AM
just a question, what car is the fastest in the game?
0-100 and top speed?
does anyone know?

RC45
03-15-2005, 01:16 AM
Stock, the F1 car.

Minacious
03-15-2005, 01:18 AM
stop complaining and just play the game, or if its got so many problems then play something else :wink:

I will complain until PD delivers on what they have been touting to be "The Real Driving Simulator". :D

Toronto
03-15-2005, 01:25 AM
Stock, the F1 car.
don't think it is the fastest? cause I have cars that hit a higher top speed.

5vz-fe
03-15-2005, 03:43 AM
My AI is working hard to get me that F1 car rite now (I know I said I gonna drive the 24 hour ring, but after the 4 hour endurance, I figured I will prolly shorten my life span if I do that 24 hours one purely on my own)

I know alot of ppl complained that GT4 has many flaws that it shouldn't have given the 4 years of developement, but to me it is still 50 bucks well spent. The physics engine clearly more superior than the one in the previous generations. The number of tracks avaliable far exceeds any other car games out there. I know I know, the computer AI is still stupid, and you cannot use ur own cars in arcade mode and the car tuning is still very lame (I wish they could really go the whole nine yards of listing actual parts for specific cars and not just some Sports, Semi-Racing, Racing grades). BUT (a big one) To me, just driving cars like M3 CSL or the Opel speedster around the ring with the logitech steering wheel already made me feel I got my money worthed, you can say I got low expectation or that I am a sucker for PD but I am a happy customer.

Toronto: What's the Top Speed on the F1 car anyways? Is it redline limited or drag?

mindgam3
03-15-2005, 08:32 AM
quick question before i actually buy one in the near future.... is the Zonda actualy barable handling wise now? I think it was bugged in GT3 with massive understear and racing brakes never made a difference from stock... is it still the same in GT4?

Plus does anyone want to explain the "original" turbo and suspension?

Seems to be the original turbo gives slightly less power, but all over the rev range compared to the stage 4, but what about the original suspension? :S

TransAm
03-15-2005, 09:53 AM
At a staggering 5% complete, it would seem I am not playing the game as much as some of you, however last night I got the Mugen Motul Civic. It's my new 'favourite' car, sounds fantastic, MUCH better than my 217hp EK TypeR! :mrgreen:

dingo
03-15-2005, 10:06 AM
At a staggering 5% complete, it would seem I am not playing the game as much as some of you, however last night I got the Mugen Motul Civic. It's my new 'favourite' car, sounds fantastic, MUCH better than my 217hp EK TypeR! :mrgreen:

I've only done about 16%, but I prefer to take it slowly instead of finishing everything too quickly :wink: I have some nice cars already (SL65, M3 GTR, CSL, Yellowbird.....) but still have alot to get......this game will last me for years hopefully :D

ARMAN
03-15-2005, 11:38 AM
More vids! Pleeez with yousendit you can upload up to 1 GB vid :P Lets say Nurburgring in white S-Type like Jeremy did :D

gis
03-15-2005, 11:47 AM
i looked how much i completed last night and ive done 27.3%....

bullet_1800
03-15-2005, 11:58 AM
i am at a 33.~% so far. The physics of the game are nice, the graphics are really good( more vivid colours than GT3) but i wish u could powerslide more like in the previous game. Now its a bit harder to keep on sliding on a straight line. Its like the weight of the car pushes the body on the other side really brutally and u have to be really gently to manage(or not) and keep it sideways. That is the only thing i miss from GT3. APart from that GT4 is everything i expected it would be, FANTASTIC.
As soon as i get my digital camera back i will try and upload some videos. :mrgreen:

TransAm
03-15-2005, 12:10 PM
Stupid question maybe, but can you save replays to USB?

I wasn't going to buy a stick just for photos, but I will if I can 'yousendit' videos to people!

Toronto
03-15-2005, 12:27 PM
Toronto: What's the Top Speed on the F1 car anyways? Is it redline limited or drag?'

220mph at most, and it is redline limited.
a tuned viper has a faster top speed

RC45
03-15-2005, 01:09 PM
Toronto: What's the Top Speed on the F1 car anyways? Is it redline limited or drag?'

220mph at most, and it is redline limited.
a tuned viper has a faster top speed

Which is why I said "stock"...

TT
03-15-2005, 01:18 PM
Finally got the ebony bitches myself :D

http://img16.exs.cx/img16/6530/img00001sy.th.jpg (http://img16.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img16&image=img00001sy.jpg) http://img16.exs.cx/img16/9354/img00018cr.th.jpg (http://img16.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img16&image=img00018cr.jpg) http://img16.exs.cx/img16/5271/img00023nt.th.jpg (http://img16.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img16&image=img00023nt.jpg) http://img40.exs.cx/img40/6514/img00033zz.th.jpg (http://img40.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img40&image=img00033zz.jpg)

ARMAN
03-15-2005, 01:31 PM
Stupid question maybe, but can you save replays to USB?

I wasn't going to buy a stick just for photos, but I will if I can 'yousendit' videos to people!

http://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gifhttp://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gifhttp://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gifhttp://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gifhttp://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gifhttp://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gifhttp://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gifhttp://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gif

TT
03-15-2005, 01:36 PM
Stupid question maybe, but can you save replays to USB?

I wasn't going to buy a stick just for photos, but I will if I can 'yousendit' videos to people!

You can.. with this the Maxdrive (http://www.play.com/play247.asp?searchtype=PS2&searchstring=max+drive&page=search&Go.x=39&Go.y=12)http://www.play.com/play247.asp?searchtype=PS2&searchstring=max+drive&page=search&Go.x=39&Go.y=12)

Toronto
03-15-2005, 01:42 PM
Toronto: What's the Top Speed on the F1 car anyways? Is it redline limited or drag?'

220mph at most, and it is redline limited.
a tuned viper has a faster top speed

Which is why I said "stock"...

true but most lm race cars hit higher top speeds stock.

Toronto
03-15-2005, 02:06 PM
wha?? just won this ford gt (yellow) with no racing stripes and diff. wheels, also it has 558hp?
is the wrong?
I got it from the supercar races, in the extreme events hall

RC45
03-15-2005, 02:28 PM
^^^ Ah - this answers why when you use the "all cars" cheat, you get an all white Ford GT. This car is then available without the stripes in white, yellow and blue (hopefully).

TransAm
03-15-2005, 02:33 PM
Stupid question maybe, but can you save replays to USB?

I wasn't going to buy a stick just for photos, but I will if I can 'yousendit' videos to people!

http://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gifhttp://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gifhttp://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gifhttp://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gifhttp://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gifhttp://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gifhttp://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gifhttp://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gif

:? I'm easily confused Arman! WTF do you mean?

@TT - Thanks for that Maxdrive link but it is for PAL only, I have NTSC US.

Edit: found an NTSC version @

http://us.codejunkies.com/shop/product.asp?c=US&cr=USD&cs=$&r=0&l=1&ProdID=282

TT
03-15-2005, 02:43 PM
Ah dang.. me too I use GT on my NTSC console LOL! I guess there should be an NTSC version too...

RC45
03-15-2005, 02:51 PM
How does the MaxDrive work? Do you need to bbo the PS2 to a special software CD first? Can you transfer any file from PS2 mem card to USB stick? Or only recognised file types of the Boot CD?

TT
03-15-2005, 02:55 PM
Yes as far as I know, you put the CD in and it loads a special screen where you can move stuff from the mem cards to the USB drive

and you can transfer any kind of file, even the configuration one Dan told me ;)

RC45
03-15-2005, 02:58 PM
OK - so same theory as the SharkPort - only the Sharkport is a USB cable link, so you are kinda limited to transfering to and from PC.

The MaxDrive gives you the option of "standalone" transfer to the USB drive, then plug into PC and transfer.

Good to have another option then.

ARMAN
03-15-2005, 03:09 PM
Stupid question maybe, but can you save replays to USB?

I wasn't going to buy a stick just for photos, but I will if I can 'yousendit' videos to people!

http://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gifhttp://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gifhttp://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gifhttp://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gifhttp://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gifhttp://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gifhttp://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gifhttp://arman.xz.cz/smilees/banana.gif

:? I'm easily confused Arman! WTF do you mean?

@TT - Thanks for that Maxdrive link but it is for PAL only, I have NTSC US.

Edit: found an NTSC version @

http://us.codejunkies.com/shop/product.asp?c=US&cr=USD&cs=$&r=0&l=1&ProdID=282

excited about vids you or guys provide us :P I dont have PS2 so gonna drool over vids :mrgreen:

TransAm
03-15-2005, 03:32 PM
@Arman - I am less confused now! Thanks for explaining.

I guess you'd like to see some BMWs 'on the ring', then? :mrgreen:

I'll see what I can do over the weekend, assuming 1. my MaxDrive arrives by then and 2. you can actually keep a straight face at my poor driving skillz :wink:

OK - so same theory as the SharkPort - only the Sharkport is a USB cable link, so you are kinda limited to transfering to and from PC.

The MaxDrive gives you the option of "standalone" transfer to the USB drive, then plug into PC and transfer.

Good to have another option then.

I was looking at the Shark but my PC is about 50 feet from where my PS2 is, so the USB 'stick' is ideal for me.

Next question - is it easy to rip videos from whatever format PS2 saves them in, to like *.avi or DiVX format ?

Sorry to be a PITA with my barrage of questions BTW...

TransAm
03-15-2005, 03:35 PM
dp sorry no delete button appearing on JW today for some reason

ARMAN
03-15-2005, 03:54 PM
There's no E30M3 so, black stock Merc EVOII, BMW 2002 if you have them already will be good and as I said nice clip ala Clarkson of white S-type Jag on Nurbugring just like in '04 TG episode(its in the Vault BTW) :P Thanx :wink:

tuffguy
03-15-2005, 05:46 PM
To those of you who used the R8 to win the GT championship in pro events, how modded was it? (I'm afraid of the Sauber, and I don't wanna lose any races)

RC45
03-15-2005, 08:15 PM
Just to clarify though - you can't play the Replay File you download to the PC... can you?

I didn't know there was a GT4 Replay app for the PC. As far as I knwo you would need to upload the replay and transfer to your own PS2 and simply watch it in GT4.

Or - capture the replay as a video file to the PC.

TransAm
03-15-2005, 09:40 PM
Or - capture the replay as a video file to the PC.

How would I do that :?:

Hmm. This replay business could get quite complicated. I might try and use a PS2 emulator and some video grabbing s/ware. It might not work but it's a project for the weekend.

I'll give it a try, I picked up a Maxdrive this evening, so expect some piccys in the other thread soon, at least...

RC45
03-15-2005, 10:21 PM
I will capture some movies this weekend. Right now I have my B-Spec idiot doing the LeMan 24hrs for me... then tomorrow he does LeMans II - then the 'Ring 24hrs... :) Got him doing it in the F1 car.

TransAm
03-15-2005, 10:27 PM
I will capture some movies this weekend. Right now I have my B-Spec idiot doing the LeMan 24hrs for me... then tomorrow he does LeMans II - then the 'Ring 24hrs... :)

If you want to write a quick 'how to' for us techno-philistines then I would much appreciate it, and no doubt we'd get a lot of GT4 vids coming in.

It'll be worth it for you being able to see my comedy driving...

Pimp Racer
03-15-2005, 10:30 PM
thanks for the vid Pimp Racer, the flap up wings sure is interesting.

No problem saw it on GTP. I cant wait to get this car! :D

At a staggering 5% complete, it would seem I am not playing the game as much as some of you, however last night I got the Mugen Motul Civic. It's my new 'favourite' car, sounds fantastic, MUCH better than my 217hp EK TypeR! :mrgreen:

Yeah that car kicks some ass!

More vids! Pleeez with yousendit you can upload up to 1 GB vid :P Lets say Nurburgring in white S-Type like Jeremy did :D

I dont have the things to make it so I cant..:(

Finally got the ebony bitches myself :D

http://img16.exs.cx/img16/6530/img00001sy.th.jpg (http://img16.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img16&image=img00001sy.jpg) http://img16.exs.cx/img16/9354/img00018cr.th.jpg (http://img16.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img16&image=img00018cr.jpg) http://img16.exs.cx/img16/5271/img00023nt.th.jpg (http://img16.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img16&image=img00023nt.jpg) http://img40.exs.cx/img40/6514/img00033zz.th.jpg (http://img40.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img40&image=img00033zz.jpg)

Damn you TT! I havent had chance to play it since School is KILLING ME WITH A SHIT LOAD of things! :( So I wont be on Jabbas or GTP very often now. :(

wha?? just won this ford gt (yellow) with no racing stripes and diff. wheels, also it has 558hp?
is the wrong?
I got it from the supercar races, in the extreme events hall

Nope nothing wrong.
I got a white one no stripes.



Well looks like you guys need help with this replay stuff. I know the EXACT people that can help you. Let me go get the link. VERY detailed info!

Pimp Racer
03-15-2005, 10:34 PM
Alright guys as promised! :D
http://www.davidanderson.org.uk/record.htm

TransAm
03-15-2005, 10:35 PM
Alright guys as promised! :D
http://www.davidanderson.org.uk/record.htm

Nice one pimp racer!

RC45
03-15-2005, 10:50 PM
Alright guys as promised! :D
http://www.davidanderson.org.uk/record.htm

Uhm - not to be too unkind, but those of us that have been capturing videos (part of what JabbasWorld is all about) know this already... ;)

How do you think we get VHS tapes captured to MPG... :P

In my mind, it would be easier to simply transfer the repla file to the PC, and upload it to a file service and then we can just down load em and play ourselves.. :P

tuffguy
03-15-2005, 11:42 PM
Just started the NS 24hr enduro... I hope it doesn't kill my PS2...

RC45
03-16-2005, 12:06 AM
I will capture some movies this weekend. Right now I have my B-Spec idiot doing the LeMan 24hrs for me... then tomorrow he does LeMans II - then the 'Ring 24hrs... :)

If you want to write a quick 'how to' for us techno-philistines then I would much appreciate it, and no doubt we'd get a lot of GT4 vids coming in.

It'll be worth it for you being able to see my comedy driving...

If you don't have or don't want to go to the expense of rigging up an analog video capture setup - just uplaod the actual replay files to some place and I'll grab em and capture em to video.. :)

Just started the NS 24hr enduro... I hope it doesn't kill my PS2...

5hr hours into the LeMans 24 hrs my MiniMe is almost 100 laps in, 6 laps up on 2nd place and seems to be pulling into the pits every 5 or 6 laps.

I have him set on 5 (Push) and Overtake... he is doign pretty well in the Formula 1 car.

I also went nuts and captured 45 minutes of video... ;)

RC45
03-16-2005, 01:41 AM
no delete button :(

tuffguy
03-16-2005, 01:55 AM
I have him set on 5 (Push) and Overtake... he is doign pretty well in the Formula 1 car.
Do you need to have him on 5? You can probably get an extra lap in on 1 or 2.

RC45
03-16-2005, 02:02 AM
I have him set on 5 (Push) and Overtake... he is doign pretty well in the Formula 1 car.
Do you need to have him on 5? You can probably get an extra lap in on 1 or 2.

Probably not - he is lapping these mofos every 4 laps... hehe - but it is after all a race, so 5 it is.

The AI is pretty dim-witted - he rams everyone before he passes them... would it be that hard for the AI B-Spec driver to detect the car in front of him and so down??

T-Bird
03-16-2005, 02:30 AM
I have him set on 5 (Push) and Overtake... he is doign pretty well in the Formula 1 car.
Do you need to have him on 5? You can probably get an extra lap in on 1 or 2.

Probably not - he is lapping these mofos every 4 laps... hehe - but it is after all a race, so 5 it is.

The AI is pretty dim-witted - he rams everyone before he passes them... would it be that hard for the AI B-Spec driver to detect the car in front of him and so down??

what are your B-spec points?
mines at about 7500
and if you put it into 3-4 it won't ram the other cars

RC45
03-16-2005, 02:36 AM
I have him set on 5 (Push) and Overtake... he is doign pretty well in the Formula 1 car.
Do you need to have him on 5? You can probably get an extra lap in on 1 or 2.

Probably not - he is lapping these mofos every 4 laps... hehe - but it is after all a race, so 5 it is.

The AI is pretty dim-witted - he rams everyone before he passes them... would it be that hard for the AI B-Spec driver to detect the car in front of him and so down??

what are your B-spec points?
mines at about 7500

and if you put it into 3-4 it won't ram the other cars


B-Spec points are only about 850. I noticed that if the car he is in is significantly faster than the opponents, even on 3 he rams them - then slows, then passes. It is related to the fact that PD doesn't code AI, just drivers than follow the racing line - bunp into something, then go around.


You can see the same thing happens when you race and the AI tries to pass you - they ram you first, since this appears to be the obstruction detection PD use... ramming.. ;)

tuffguy
03-16-2005, 03:01 AM
I have 8200 B-spec points, and he still rear ends them before he passes them. I'm starting to wonder if he's ever gonna stop doing that...

RC45
03-16-2005, 03:36 AM
8000+ B-Spec points? How many freekin races have you B-Spec'd? My guy has done all the Endurance races - except the 24hr ones... and has less than 1000 points.

Does the car make a difference? Maybe the fact that he has done most races in the F1 car is why he has low points?

BTW - I am VERY dissapointed - I checked in on the LeMan 24 hours... 7 hours in - and it is still day light.

SO I am guessing it never gets dark. What a crock of shit.

PD make these stupid 24 hour endurance races as part of "The Ultimate Driving Sim" - and it is always light.

This game is very much a a service pack for GT3 - not deserving of the title GT4.

Yeah, yeah, yeah it is fun, but nothing like they made it out to be... ;)

tuffguy
03-16-2005, 04:03 AM
B-spec points are similar to A-spec points... you have to run the cars pretty close to stock. I've been using it a lot on manufacturer's races, and I've been re-running races until I stop getting points. From what I've noticed, you can do most mods (lightening, drivetrain, suspension) and still get B-spec points. Once you start doing power or tire mods, you stop getting points.

It's pretty tough. You have to do races in real time, and push (5) on straights, and slow (1-3) during turns depending on the car.

mindgam3
03-16-2005, 08:17 AM
I've got about 4500 B spec points and my driver seems pretty good.

I've ran almost all my races with lots of mods n still getting points.....

The type of car and how you set up the car also effects heavily how your B spec driver drives.

For example, i did the same race with the same car 3 times with traction control set at 1, 6 and 10 and the B spec driver was by far the fastest with it set at 6 for that particular car....

TransAm
03-16-2005, 09:37 AM
[quote=RC45]I will capture some movies this weekend. Right now I have my B-Spec idiot doing the LeMan 24hrs for me... then tomorrow he does LeMans II - then the 'Ring 24hrs... :)

If you want to write a quick 'how to' for us techno-philistines then I would much appreciate it, and no doubt we'd get a lot of GT4 vids coming in.

It'll be worth it for you being able to see my comedy driving...

If you don't have or don't want to go to the expense of rigging up an analog video capture setup - just uplaod the actual replay files to some place and I'll grab em and capture em to video.. :)

[quote]

Thank you Sir!

tuffguy
03-16-2005, 03:23 PM
Sweet, I just got the ending movie!

On the other hand, it sucks.

RC45
03-16-2005, 04:33 PM
Well - 21 hours into the LeMans 24, and the minime is 370 laps completed, 25 laps up on 2nd place and going like a scalded cat down the Mulsanne.. :P

tuffguy
03-16-2005, 04:48 PM
You're playing it in real time? :shock:

RC45
03-16-2005, 05:01 PM
You're playing it in real time? :shock:

Yes - the mini-me is driving... and I check in (it is the Picture in Picture on the big screen TV... :) ) every now and again.

LeMan runs from 4pm to 4pm - correct? So, if they make out as if this is the "real driving sim" then it should run from about 4pm to 4pm... :P

Next up is the old circuit LeMan with the full Mulsanne :)

TT
03-16-2005, 05:45 PM
I still need to force him to race those two myself :D

Right now I was triyng to make him help me in the F1 championship wich is basically a 10 enduros series :shock: but he isn't up to the task sadly.. we still managed to win the first 4 races, btu only thanks to me.. the bastard had some problems on a couple of tracks

On a side note, I would like to do a test to see how our "minime" compare to eachother.. when I will be back from Paris next week ;)

T-Bird
03-16-2005, 06:30 PM
B-spec points are similar to A-spec points... you have to run the cars pretty close to stock. I've been using it a lot on manufacturer's races, and I've been re-running races until I stop getting points. From what I've noticed, you can do most mods (lightening, drivetrain, suspension) and still get B-spec points. Once you start doing power or tire mods, you stop getting points.

It's pretty tough. You have to do races in real time, and push (5) on straights, and slow (1-3) during turns depending on the car.

Not really true I've been runing my R8 with full mods and still getting all the points.
I've been running the thing for the past week almost non-stop to rack up the points.

jon_s
03-16-2005, 06:32 PM
With regard the 24hr race, what do you do about sleep? :shock: Can you tell you person to pit in evry x laps or something and forget about it? I have yet to look into the B spec racing properly.

gis
03-16-2005, 06:33 PM
yeah im the same as you jon,i aint done 1 b-spec race race yet,my points are 0 for b-spec :)

TT
03-16-2005, 06:35 PM
B-Spec is TOTALLY automated guys.. what us for it if you would need to manually tell him to pit, to accelerate or to brake ;) that's A-Spec ;)

The only PITA is that, after every pit stop, speed go back to "live", while obviously in 3x mode the 24 races can end pretty quickly ;)

jon_s
03-16-2005, 06:36 PM
I might try and take the ps2 to work when i have a late (or early depending on how you look at it) and have my driver going in the background lol

RC45
03-16-2005, 06:54 PM
I just set the B-Spec guy and forget it.. ;) I take a peek every now and again, just to watch some live race car action... :P

I am pretty pissed that there is no night time in the 24 hours... that is really a bad omission...

Imean think about it - how could they let me run the rac in an F1 car - it has no head lights... ;)

tuffguy
03-16-2005, 07:05 PM
B-spec points are similar to A-spec points... you have to run the cars pretty close to stock. I've been using it a lot on manufacturer's races, and I've been re-running races until I stop getting points. From what I've noticed, you can do most mods (lightening, drivetrain, suspension) and still get B-spec points. Once you start doing power or tire mods, you stop getting points.

It's pretty tough. You have to do races in real time, and push (5) on straights, and slow (1-3) during turns depending on the car.

Not really true I've been runing my R8 with full mods and still getting all the points.
I've been running the thing for the past week almost non-stop to rack up the points.
I don't get anything when my car is modded. Maybe because my points are higher... I'm at 8300. How many do you have?

tuffguy
03-16-2005, 07:06 PM
Sweet!!! I just got my 4 black cars!

They're supposed to appear during days 649-699, but mine showed up right at the end, days 693 or 694. I was starting to lose hope...

TT
03-16-2005, 07:10 PM
nope, they are supposed to appear on day 694 and stay for 7 days like any other car.. cars rotate every 7 days untill day 700, then it all start from scratch

mindgam3
03-16-2005, 07:14 PM
nope, they are supposed to appear on day 694 and stay for 7 days like any other car.. cars rotate every 7 days untill day 700, then it all start from scratch

is this for used cars or what? :? Which are the "black cars"?

TT
03-16-2005, 07:20 PM
Here are mines:

787
http://img169.exs.cx/img169/9785/ebony010gl.th.jpg (http://img169.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img169&image=ebony010gl.jpg) http://img169.exs.cx/img169/100/ebony025vq.th.jpg (http://img169.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img169&image=ebony025vq.jpg)

R390
http://img169.exs.cx/img169/3784/ebony032qi.th.jpg (http://img169.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img169&image=ebony032qi.jpg) http://img169.exs.cx/img169/3128/ebony049qr.th.jpg (http://img169.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img169&image=ebony049qr.jpg)

RC92
http://img222.exs.cx/img222/7281/ebony077gl.th.jpg (http://img222.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img222&image=ebony077gl.jpg) http://img222.exs.cx/img222/363/ebony083nm.th.jpg (http://img222.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img222&image=ebony083nm.jpg) http://img222.exs.cx/img222/531/ebony093ks.th.jpg (http://img222.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img222&image=ebony093ks.jpg)

GT-One
http://img222.exs.cx/img222/7557/ebony056lt.th.jpg (http://img222.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img222&image=ebony056lt.jpg) http://img222.exs.cx/img222/7093/ebony063ee.th.jpg (http://img222.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img222&image=ebony063ee.jpg)

they appear the the two used cars lot (not the historic one).

1'200'000 for the first two (each) and around 2'300'000 for the other two I think

tuffguy
03-16-2005, 07:22 PM
nope, they are supposed to appear on day 694 and stay for 7 days like any other car.. cars rotate every 7 days untill day 700, then it all start from scratch
That's exactly how it was, but I was under impression (from way earlier in this thread) that they'd appear during days 649-699 and that I'd have to check every day to see if they appeared. So I was getting a little paranoid when they didn't show up early. :)

TT
03-16-2005, 07:25 PM
Yes I remember somebody posting the 649 indeed.. but just a typo :D I found out the correct dates on gamefaqs time ago :)

RC45
03-16-2005, 09:08 PM
Well - the B-Spec points are officially a bunch of crap.

My mini-me collected 800 points after doing 6 competition endurance races in the F1 car. He only got 12 points for racing 24 hours at LeMans...

The game awarded my B-Spec driver 900 points for winning a "family competition" race - in a MAXIMUM modified BMW M3 GTR on race tyre against the Zonda and Nardo etc.

This was a 2 lap race in the "World Course" test area.

Then they game awards him ANOTHER 100 points for doing it again.

So 2 friendly races of 2 laps each in a modified car on slicks wqas worth almost 100 times more points than a 24 hour endurance race.

Again I say this game is an unfinished unbalanced beta version... ;)

Pimp Racer
03-16-2005, 09:19 PM
Alright guys as promised! :D
http://www.davidanderson.org.uk/record.htm

Nice one pimp racer!

:D

Alright guys as promised! :D
http://www.davidanderson.org.uk/record.htm

Uhm - not to be too unkind, but those of us that have been capturing videos (part of what JabbasWorld is all about) know this already... ;)

How do you think we get VHS tapes captured to MPG... :P

In my mind, it would be easier to simply transfer the repla file to the PC, and upload it to a file service and then we can just down load em and play ourselves.. :P

Ah I see. But I think its still helps the ones that didnt know how to. :D

I have him set on 5 (Push) and Overtake... he is doign pretty well in the Formula 1 car.
Do you need to have him on 5? You can probably get an extra lap in on 1 or 2.

Probably not - he is lapping these mofos every 4 laps... hehe - but it is after all a race, so 5 it is.

The AI is pretty dim-witted - he rams everyone before he passes them... would it be that hard for the AI B-Spec driver to detect the car in front of him and so down??


If I put my bitch on 5 he always waits an extra lap to pit so in the end I lose time! :(

8000+ B-Spec points? How many freekin races have you B-Spec'd? My guy has done all the Endurance races - except the 24hr ones... and has less than 1000 points.

Does the car make a difference? Maybe the fact that he has done most races in the F1 car is why he has low points?

BTW - I am VERY dissapointed - I checked in on the LeMan 24 hours... 7 hours in - and it is still day light.

SO I am guessing it never gets dark. What a crock of shit.

PD make these stupid 24 hour endurance races as part of "The Ultimate Driving Sim" - and it is always light.

This game is very much a a service pack for GT3 - not deserving of the title GT4.

Yeah, yeah, yeah it is fun, but nothing like they made it out to be... ;)

Nope I dont think it ever gets dark. I think it would be too much shit for the PS2 to handle? And plus the fact that PD RUSHED the game might have to do with this. :( Basicily GT4 is GT3 with better graphics, Sound, Control, AI, Options, Cars, Tracks and so on.

I still need to force him to race those two myself :D

Right now I was triyng to make him help me in the F1 championship wich is basically a 10 enduros series :shock: but he isn't up to the task sadly.. we still managed to win the first 4 races, btu only thanks to me.. the bastard had some problems on a couple of tracks

On a side note, I would like to do a test to see how our "minime" compare to eachother.. when I will be back from Paris next week ;)

:lol:

Yes I remember somebody posting the 649 indeed.. but just a typo :D I found out the correct dates on gamefaqs time ago :)

I take blame. :oops:

BTW I need to update the first post with information about these 4 black cars so it will be easy for the people who dont look at this thread regularely! This might be done on friday. :D

RC45
03-16-2005, 09:29 PM
Nope I dont think it ever gets dark. I think it would be too much shit for the PS2 to handle? And plus the fact that PD RUSHED the game might have to do with this. :( Basicily GT4 is GT3 with better graphics, Sound, Control, AI, Options, Cars, Tracks and so on.

Nope - they were simply too lazy to code night time. It is really not that hard, afterall, 2 of their tracks are already at night.

The 24 endurance races are actualy just a waste of time and space.

I have proven it with the low points you get, and the fact that they didn't put night in.

TT
03-16-2005, 10:53 PM
Ok, we have a new sub subforum for GT4.

So we can slowly leave this big ass topic and have some different ones to make things easier to load ;)

SilviaEvo
03-16-2005, 10:58 PM
good call TT. i still have yet to get a PS2 is it worth about 200 dollars for both?

TT
03-16-2005, 11:00 PM
Well, if you will buy a PS2 + Gt4, you will soon find many more games worth to have.. Resident Evil, Metal Gear and the list is long ;)

Definitely the PS2 won't be much cheaper than it is now

tuffguy
03-17-2005, 03:04 AM
Q: How can you beat a 240mph R92 with a 218mph F1?

A: Try drafting (http://www.technogeeky.com/drafting.wmv)

:D

gis
03-17-2005, 09:30 AM
Guys if you want to try out something i just read a part in the latest Evo magazine

1992 Nissan R92CP le mans race car - 5:26.547

a guy at Evo magazine set it and they say it will eb hard to beat,you can send a screen grab or digi pic to them

TT
03-17-2005, 01:43 PM
Yes, it was in the last page, bottom right. The scan is in the scans section ;)

Pimp Racer
03-17-2005, 05:53 PM
Ok, we have a new sub subforum for GT4.

So we can slowly leave this big ass topic and have some different ones to make things easier to load ;)

DUDE! Great call TT! I cant wait to make a thread full of info such as the compatible USB drives and all this other info so it can be easy for the new comers! :D

Q: How can you beat a 240mph R92 with a 218mph F1?

A: Try drafting (http://www.technogeeky.com/drafting.wmv)

:D

Oh boy did that race piss me off or what? I lost by .007 or .07 or something like that. I WAS SO FUCKING PISSED! I try to get 100% win ratio since its been like that since GT2! :D Then after 10+ times of trying I finally got the damn thing and beat it by .035 or .35 seconds? Something like that but it was VERY close!

tuffguy
03-17-2005, 07:49 PM
I only had to try it twice, but I only won it by .037 too!

I thought that I was the only one crazy enough to aim for 100% wins. Thanks to you, I don't feel as weird anymore... :lol:

Has anyone tried the Opel Speedster cup? Are those other cars modded to the max?

Pimp Racer
03-18-2005, 08:49 PM
Nope I havent tried that Opel Speedster cup yet but I heard its hard as fuck!

BTW Guys I will be making that topic with an ass load of info in about 30-45 minutes or less! :D I just gotta put this one code in on every page and then after that upload to my Angelfire site and then make a thread here! :D

*edit* sorry guys but do you mind if I post that thread with the information tommorow? After a few hours (About 4+) of working to get the site to its new "pimpin" style and running I am kinda tired/hungry and need to play some games! :D

BTW please check out http://www.angelfire.com/ult/gt4hotspot/

and NOT gt4hs.qn.com since I am having some troubles with that url! :(

ZfrkS62
03-21-2005, 02:15 AM
You guys were all bitching about the look of the rims during the races earlier in the thread, but i gotta say, i think they did a pretty good job on the Muscle Cars. My Chevelle's rims look great 8)

astonmartinandy
03-21-2005, 01:22 PM
Quick question about the "black cars". I'm up to day ~600 and so have started to save for the cars, but I was just wondering whether or not it is actually worth buying them?! Do they have any particular use or extra qualities, or are they just highly sought after because of their rarity?

Pimp Racer
03-21-2005, 06:25 PM
You guys were all bitching about the look of the rims during the races earlier in the thread, but i gotta say, i think they did a pretty good job on the Muscle Cars. My Chevelle's rims look great 8)

Yeah those for some reason while racing look good! But it doesnt really matter when you are racing. As long as there is 3D rims in Photomode I am happy. :)

Quick question about the "black cars". I'm up to day ~600 and so have started to save for the cars, but I was just wondering whether or not it is actually worth buying them?! Do they have any particular use or extra qualities, or are they just highly sought after because of their rarity?

They are just rare as hell and can help you out in a few races. I would get them or else you would have to wait another 649 - 700 days to get them according to rurmors. Mostly they are for show off purposes and endurance races. :)

sameerrao
03-22-2005, 02:53 PM
Okay .. I bit the dust yesterday. Finally went out and purchased GT4. I was resisting it for a long time but a fateful trip into Fry's Electronics sealed the deal.

I havent started the normal competitive driving yet. Still playing around with the arcade mode.

My observations so far after playing for about an hour:
The new M5 is awesome sounding. The M3 sounds insipid by comparison. They seemed to have added brake dive feature in GT4. The S-type R prostrates itself when you hit the anchors.

Also drove the Ruf BTR around the Nurburgring - did a pathetic 8'34" lap for my first attempt. The track seems narrower in this game than in Grand Prix Legends. I was more on the grass than on the road.

As I am playing in the hotel, I have to do with the standard controller and not any fancy wheels like you guys.

Pimp Racer
03-22-2005, 06:06 PM
Okay .. I bit the dust yesterday. Finally went out and purchased GT4. I was resisting it for a long time but a fateful trip into Fry's Electronics sealed the deal.

I havent started the normal competitive driving yet. Still playing around with the arcade mode.

My observations so far after playing for about an hour:
The new M5 is awesome sounding. The M3 sounds insipid by comparison. They seemed to have added brake dive feature in GT4. The S-type R prostrates itself when you hit the anchors.

Also drove the Ruf BTR around the Nurburgring - did a pathetic 8'34" lap for my first attempt. The track seems narrower in this game than in Grand Prix Legends. I was more on the grass than on the road.

As I am playing in the hotel, I have to do with the standard controller and not any fancy wheels like you guys.

Glad ya like it! :D BTW for the ring seeming narrow I had that same feeling and then later on after I raced at it in the incar view I didnt have that "problem" any more.

tuffguy
03-24-2005, 12:09 PM
7 more hours and I'll be done with all the 24hr enduros. My PS2 must really hate me right now. I Just did the two Sarthes back to back.

gis
03-24-2005, 12:20 PM
ive not even attempted to do the 24 hour races yet,lol

i was gonna start that 150 miles at the super speedway,seems pretty easy.what cars did you guys use for that race?

No.1
03-24-2005, 01:10 PM
ive not even attempted to do the 24 hour races yet,lol

i was gonna start that 150 miles at the super speedway,seems pretty easy.what cars did you guys use for that race?

Just what i thought too, but the opposition is strong. Sauber/Nissan R89/92 etc..

If you haven't got any of the prototype cars, then don't even bother. I tried it in my CLK-GTR, but it hasn't got the downforce to go round the oval quick enough.

I'm only on day 445.... it's gonna be a while until i can buy any of the black cars... i've nearly got enough cash tho 8)

fuerabora
03-24-2005, 02:54 PM
I let my b spec retard do that 150 mile race, and he won quite easily :D

using the nissan r89 ;)

tuffguy
03-24-2005, 02:59 PM
I've been using my black Mazda 787 with RHs. He's been beating them pretty handily. I used to cower in fear of the Sauber and R92CP before, now I don't even care.

Pimp Racer
03-24-2005, 06:16 PM
ive not even attempted to do the 24 hour races yet,lol

i was gonna start that 150 miles at the super speedway,seems pretty easy.what cars did you guys use for that race?

I used my Toyota Minolta. I sat there for like a fucking hour going in circles! Oh the horror! :(

I let my b spec retard do that 150 mile race, and he won quite easily :D

using the nissan r89 ;)

My guy fucking sucks ass! :( He couldnt win it so I had to do it :twisted:

tuffguy
03-25-2005, 01:46 PM
Sweet... I have now finished all my enduros. I'm surprised my PS2 didn't blow up.

jaime_25
03-25-2005, 02:17 PM
I let my b spec retard do that 150 mile race, and he won quite easily :D

using the nissan r89 ;)

My guy fucking sucks ass! :( He couldnt win it so I had to do it :twisted:

well after TT's b spec testing thing I thought mine did too.. but then I realised he generally sucks more if set over 3 aggression

RC45
03-25-2005, 03:12 PM
I used the F1 car for all of them... :P

GT_Darin
03-25-2005, 04:19 PM
I've won quite a few myself. Being that its like a real endurance race between me and my B-Spec Guy. I run, then I pit, he take sover, he pits, then I take over. It works quite well.

cooperluke
03-25-2005, 05:59 PM
Yep, the ring also looked very narrow at first, but now it seems just normal! Check the videos of the ring, and you'll see it's not that different! ;)

Pimp Racer
03-27-2005, 11:45 AM
I let my b spec retard do that 150 mile race, and he won quite easily :D

using the nissan r89 ;)

My guy fucking sucks ass! :( He couldnt win it so I had to do it :twisted:

well after TT's b spec testing thing I thought mine did too.. but then I realised he generally sucks more if set over 3 aggression

Yeah when I let that "bitch" race I put it on usually 3 or 4 but I thought it would be ok if I put it on 5 since its a fucking oval you know? Maybe it was my pit stratergy? I had to pit in every 10 laps. :( I won though by like 4 laps. :D IT was hella challenging.

manuf40
03-27-2005, 11:52 AM
nope he was just a retard on that oval.. as soon as tires got a bit worn he would either understeer into the wall at the last corner or even worse spin if they got too bad

No.1
03-27-2005, 02:31 PM
Another quick question....

I'm saving up for the black cars, but have now got 5m spare. I want to buy a decent car, so that i can progress through the game (i don't have any seriously quick/competitive cars atm). I need something similar to the R92 etc....

What car is a decent buy for 5m Credits.... the BMW V12 LMR.... etc.

Thx a bunch... i lovethe GT4 section 8)

Pimp Racer
03-27-2005, 03:12 PM
nope he was just a retard on that oval.. as soon as tires got a bit worn he would either understeer into the wall at the last corner or even worse spin if they got too bad

Ah yeah thats true.

Another quick question....

I'm saving up for the black cars, but have now got 5m spare. I want to buy a decent car, so that i can progress through the game (i don't have any seriously quick/competitive cars atm). I need something similar to the R92 etc....

What car is a decent buy for 5m Credits.... the BMW V12 LMR.... etc.

Thx a bunch... i lovethe GT4 section 8)

Damn thats gonna be a bit though. I really havent driven the LMP cars yet so I dont know. Maybe an R8? Or try winning the Toyota Minolta Racer. :D

Here is the US prize car list. Just look around and see a good car and try and enter that race and win. :D
http://www.angelfire.com/ult/gt4hotspot/GT4prizecars.htm

Chrono
04-04-2005, 06:21 PM
Okay I've completed every ENDURANCE race except for Le Sarthe 24hr II. I'm using my B-spec driver for this because I don't have time to race for 24 hours.

For some reason I can't seem to beat Le Sarthe 24hr II. For those of you who won this race what car did you use and what kind of setup?

Thanks.

No.1
04-05-2005, 12:02 PM
Another quick question....

I'm saving up for the black cars, but have now got 5m spare. I want to buy a decent car, so that i can progress through the game (i don't have any seriously quick/competitive cars atm). I need something similar to the R92 etc....

What car is a decent buy for 5m Credits.... the BMW V12 LMR.... etc.

Thx a bunch... i lovethe GT4 section 8)

Only one way to go if you ask me....Audi R8....It will do the job nicly and then some...... :wink:

LOL.... no way :wink:

I went for the BMW LMR and it's a hot car. Almost as fast around the ring as my R92CP, if i could only get the setup right :?

mindgam3
04-05-2005, 12:47 PM
Perscarlos handle better than the R8 too - especially on the 'ring

430csjj
04-05-2005, 01:17 PM
I WANT Ferrari and Lambo. :(


Same here. They had it on fifth gear and Tiff said that ferrari charged to much to borrow the cars, I don't know bout lambo.


BTW, if someone has said this I apologise!! 70 pages....

Pimp Racer
04-05-2005, 05:22 PM
Okay I've completed every ENDURANCE race except for Le Sarthe 24hr II. I'm using my B-spec driver for this because I don't have time to race for 24 hours.

For some reason I can't seem to beat Le Sarthe 24hr II. For those of you who won this race what car did you use and what kind of setup?

Thanks.

Any LMP should do I suppose? Make sure you invest in the SUPER HARD RACING SLICKS! They are like 20 grand but WELL worth it man!
I WANT Ferrari and Lambo. :(


Same here. They had it on fifth gear and Tiff said that ferrari charged to much to borrow the cars, I don't know bout lambo.


BTW, if someone has said this I apologise!! 70 pages....

:lol: No problem. I think the reason why Ferrari , Lamborghini , and Porsche are NOT in the game is because of Liscenseing issuies. EA owns the rights to the liscense's for those cars and will let other game makers such as Forza use them becuase they probably dont like the PD team for some reason?

SFDMALEX
04-05-2005, 05:54 PM
:lol: No problem. I think the reason why Ferrari , Lamborghini , and Porsche are NOT in the game is because of Liscenseing issuies. EA owns the rights to the liscense's for those cars and will let other game makers such as Forza use them becuase they probably dont like the PD team for some reason?

I think its a price issue, EA does not own the only right to use Ferrari and Lambo in their games. Remeber EA is just a publisher, most games are made long before the devolopment teams contacts EA, or when the publishers bid on a game.

I think someone as big as Ferrari asks for mucho $$$ to use their name in a game.

tuffguy
04-05-2005, 05:55 PM
According to the 5th Gear review, it's a priicing issue. Apparently Porsche and Ferrari charge too much.

Pimp Racer
04-05-2005, 06:18 PM
:lol: No problem. I think the reason why Ferrari , Lamborghini , and Porsche are NOT in the game is because of Liscenseing issuies. EA owns the rights to the liscense's for those cars and will let other game makers such as Forza use them becuase they probably dont like the PD team for some reason?

I think its a price issue, EA does not own the only right to use Ferrari and Lambo in their games. Remeber EA is just a publisher, most games are made long before the devolopment teams contacts EA, or when the publishers bid on a game.

I think someone as big as Ferrari asks for mucho $$$ to use their name in a game.

Ah you guys got a point there! But hell its free advertising! I mean a game this big why not go ahead and put your company in?

430csjj
04-06-2005, 02:27 PM
But hell its free advertising! I mean a game this big why not go ahead and put your company in?

Thats what I thought!! Ferrari would get free advertising. It should really be the other way round if you know what I mean, they pay for their cars to be in a game as big as this.You'd think that ferrai would jump at it.

Pimp Racer
04-06-2005, 04:48 PM
But hell its free advertising! I mean a game this big why not go ahead and put your company in?

Thats what I thought!! Ferrari would get free advertising. It should really be the other way round if you know what I mean, they pay for their cars to be in a game as big as this.You'd think that ferrai would jump at it.


Ferrari pay PD for the car to be in the game? I dont think so. Oh and come to think I dont think a game will make a person say Oh I want that car! But then again ALOT of car people say the GT series is the reason why the Subaru's WRX STI's came to America! And many other Japanesse cars! So I really dont know...

leo_26782
06-19-2005, 11:27 AM
Do Ferrari really need advertising???

I don't think so. They just want money.

But having a Ferrari in your video game is a great advertising for you (so they charge $$$$)

oantob
06-19-2005, 08:38 PM
IMO, why Ferrari is in not so hype games? Like the Forza, Project Gotham Racing, etc. Those games aren't popular enough so they need to have Ferrari and Porsche in it to get attention from the crowd. Not like GT, its already known in the whole wide world...just like leo_26782 said

exhausted mules
06-29-2005, 02:46 AM
what i do for the setup for b-spec is what i call an "apex setup" where you have a setup which initially holds that apex grip as long as possible. the comp seems to come into a corner, hold the speed required for the amount of grip and then accelerate when the coast (grip) is clear.

normally i setup for late braking and throtle play to stabalise the car. loads of front end grip meaning... front end bias with a loose but responsive rear. (hard springs with lots of preload and rebound to taste for the front and softer springs, less preload but more rebound out back). stick tons of camber up front with a little less in the back. lift the rear end and lower the front. but try to keep a 50-50 weight. toe in at the front and lots of out in the back.

this is for a mr of course and you'd have to adjust the weight distribution with a different car.

you adjust the sway bars at 1 with one up on the front if oversteers on the turn in and one up on the back if it over steers on the throttle out.

for b-spec do all this... but in the opposite. the comp seems to like being aggressive on the corner exit so having it fast there will gain you those seconds.

those are my findings anyways. give it a try.

RC45
06-29-2005, 02:48 AM
^^ Far too much thinking - ;) I just gave my Minime an F1 car and let him have at it.

He did all the enduros for me one week a few months back :)

exhausted mules
06-29-2005, 05:59 PM
^^ Far too much thinking

eh... it happens.

RC45
06-29-2005, 06:01 PM
^^ Far too much thinking

eh... it happens.

Thinking? hehehe - I wish I spent too much time thinking.

exhausted mules
06-29-2005, 07:29 PM
^^ Far too much thinking

eh... it happens.

Thinking? hehehe - I wish I spent too much time thinking.


sometimes, it hurts...

and you should allways have a mind full of ideas and thoughts... its what makes us human. makes us want to evolve better...

become faster

quicker...

more agile.

to be one with your surrounding and become your own king

and eventually rise as....



THE ULTIMATE GRAND TURISMO DRIVER IN HISTORY!~!~!~!


:D

RC45
06-29-2005, 08:11 PM
^^^ or just give you MiniMe an F1 car so he kicks arse where ever he goes... :P