12-06-2005, 05:10 PM
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Lotus Europa S
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12-06-2005, 05:40 PM
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Put a VX220 body on it, give it leather, a new name and you get a Europa? I'm honestly bothered by this....
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12-06-2005, 06:05 PM
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wtf ..... after the exige .. this is literally a POS
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12-06-2005, 06:09 PM
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They need to stop making these type of cars for now and focus on getting the new Esprit out.
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12-06-2005, 06:12 PM
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Yep! It definitely looks like an Opel Speedster!! and I know what I am talking about...
same chassis, same mirrors, even the wheels seem identical (from the dimensions, with the typical 175mm width front wheel)...but also the same engine as the Speedster Turbo.
Nothing new, which is a bit sad. I would have expected something more different. :cry:
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12-06-2005, 06:33 PM
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I agree with Vexor that the best way to recover the name is doing a good job creating a lotus esprit sucessor.....with a similar shape or different, but maintaining the old esprits essence....little weight, not very big engines, and sharp suspensions, steering.....if lotus continues with elise or similar, naturally no problem
However, i see the europa hideous having a look at the pic; perhaps ill like it when i see it on the road....but it seems that i wont like the car; if this wasnt enough, i dont fancy with the interior either
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12-06-2005, 06:35 PM
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hmmm im sure its an amazing car, but i wonder with all these more luxurious elises being released lately if this car is different enough to justify 49k pounds  also i find the elise alot better-looking...but maybe itll grow on me
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12-06-2005, 08:29 PM
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This car is much and much too expensive!!! It starts at 75.000 euro's that's crazy. That's allmost 911 Carrera money. And the Europa only has 200hp...
sorry Lotus but this will be a miss...
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12-06-2005, 11:26 PM
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What is the purpose of this car again?
How is this suppose to be marketed?
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12-07-2005, 12:15 AM
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I think it's a GT version of the elise. Elise is a track car for everyday driving but the Europa maybe an everyday car with some track day capabilities. Looks much bigger, better equipped and more comfortable. I guess instead of making a compromised elise, they decided to invent another class of cars... a "trackday GT car".  After all it's built on an extended elise chasis. So it shouldnt suprise us that from the photos it looks like an elise. The VX220 was a not built on an extended elise chasis.
It looks longer than the elise...
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12-07-2005, 12:29 AM
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anyone else see RSX in the headlights? I'm sorry but this just pisses on the grave of the Europa
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12-07-2005, 12:46 AM
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I think it's a GT version of the elise. Elise is a track car for everyday driving but the Europa maybe an everyday car with some track day capabilities.
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i cant agree with that... the Elise is actually Quite comfortable for long distance driving... and i only have 1 complaint about it (besides wishing the S2000 motor was in it) you are at an akward angle from the drivers seat to the windshield where visibility behind sucks, left and right arent terrible, straight is just fine, but looking at a stop light? nope... its quite difficult to keep an eye on the light situation.... this europa seems to suffer the same angles.
i do think this should be called something... but mabey not the europa. perhaps it belonged under the Opel name?
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12-07-2005, 12:56 AM
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I thought the Speedster was based on the Elise? And now it seems Lotus based the new Europa on the Speedster? I dont know about this..
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12-07-2005, 02:28 AM
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Ugly as hell  it doesn`t look like a Lotus at all , what a POS
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12-07-2005, 03:25 AM
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It looks like one of those sporty cars that econo brands sometimes make to boost their image. Has little to do with Lotus. Where's the aggresiveness?
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