190 Evo II vs M3 2.5

[levensnevel]

I actually do prefer the Merc with the Cossie engine :fadein:

[bmwfreak]

Originally Posted by SPEEDKILLAR MB was never good in manual gears...but they are the best in automatic trans.!!! I think your wrong about that, I mean they practically use the same technology and may I ad that Mercedes has a bigger resource than bmw. Bmw copies most of the (good) things from Mercedes, wich I can understand because they can't take too much risks

BMW copies most of the good things from Mercedes? WHAT...?

Hmm, might I add, BMW were the first car company in the world to use 6-speed automatic gearboxes in their cars (E65 7 etc, 2001) whereas Mercedes have only recently finally come up with their own 7-speeder. The SL still uses a 5 speed automatic.

Whilst we see BMW moving away from the "same sausage different lentghs" design philosophy which they actually sort of pioneered (non-BMWphiles might find it hard to tell old BMWs apart, so similiar and evolutionary were their designs, E3 saloon right up to E34 5 Series), albeit not too successfully, Mercedes have decided to stick SL-esque headlights on almost anything they make, SLR included.

Mercedes are prestige cars, no doubt, even A-Class included. BUt to say BMW cannot take risks? What are they doing now? Merc are guilty of not taking risks, look at the 1997 E-Class and the (new)2002 E-Class. A nip and a tuck here and there, plus S-Class taillights. Is that a risk? Agreed, that Mercedes has moure resources, partly because they also make (wait for it), buses and lorries, and share resources with Chrysler. BMW, thankfully, are still independent, as are Porshce.

Back to the matter at hand, Shaquille O'Neal has a heavily modified 190E similiar to the one shown above, and even he says that it's basically for showing off in. An M3, for the drive, would be more worth it, IMO. ANyoen can pose, not everyoen can drive. (= cheers.

[SPEEDKILLAR]

SPEEDKILLAR wrote: Quote: MB was never good in manual gears...but they are the best in automatic trans.!!! I think your wrong about that, I mean they practically use the same technology and may I ad that Mercedes has a bigger resource than bmw. Bmw copies most of the (good) things from Mercedes, wich I can understand because they can't take too much risks BMW copies most of the good things from Mercedes? WHAT...? Hmm, might I add, BMW were the first car company in the world to use 6-speed automatic gearboxes in their cars (E65 7 etc, 2001) whereas Mercedes have only recently finally come up with their own 7-speeder. The SL still uses a 5 speed automatic. Whilst we see BMW moving away from the "same sausage different lentghs" design philosophy which they actually sort of pioneered (non-BMWphiles might find it hard to tell old BMWs apart, so similiar and evolutionary were their designs, E3 saloon right up to E34 5 Series), albeit not too successfully, Mercedes have decided to stick SL-esque headlights on almost anything they make, SLR included. Mercedes are prestige cars, no doubt, even A-Class included. BUt to say BMW cannot take risks? What are they doing now? Merc are guilty of not taking risks, look at the 1997 E-Class and the (new)2002 E-Class. A nip and a tuck here and there, plus S-Class taillights. Is that a risk? Agreed, that Mercedes has moure resources, partly because they also make (wait for it), buses and lorries, and share resources with Chrysler. BMW, thankfully, are still independent, as are Porshce. Back to the matter at hand, Shaquille O'Neal has a heavily modified 190E similiar to the one shown above, and even he says that it's basically for showing off in. An M3, for the drive, would be more worth it, IMO. ANyoen can pose, not everyoen can drive. (= cheers.

Well I agree partially on what you said, but the risk bmw took with the new 7 and 5
is not really smart, I think they wanted to be ahead on Mercedes and I think most
ppl like the previous models and so do I. Ok and maybe for te copy stuff they don't
really do it, but you can't deny it that they do follow mercedes in some areas