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-   -   190 Evo II vs M3 2.5 (http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6751)

kawa22 02-23-2004 02:35 PM

190 Evo II vs M3 2.5
 
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235 cv 2.5L, 16v DOHC Inline-4 0-100 km/h 7.5 sec 245 km/h
The second edition of the highest-performing 190E is sold to European customers. This one uses a Cosworth-modified 2.5 L inline-4 mated to a 5-speed manual transmission. Add to that larger brakes, wheels and performance tires to further differentiate it from the rest of the 190-series. Unlike its predecessor, (the 185 hp 190E 2.5-16 built 1988 - 1993) which was not an iteration of a competition car, this car has the complete aerodynamic dressing that its competition-bred brother has. Huge fender-flares house the 18" wheels, while the large frontal air-dam ducts air for better brake-cooling and superb downforce. Over the rear window is a large hood, which routes air downward, minimizing the suction effect found on the decks of all sedans. The finishing touch is the F40-style wing on the deck.

These cars are very rare, and were offered in exactly three trim-levels. The first had a cloth interior, the second had leather, and the third had leather and AC. Most of the Evo's produced were of the last trim level. About 500 are known to still exist, most of which are in the hands of collectors. There were no right-hand drive models built by the factory.

These cars are very different from the rest of the 190-series. Their motors are heavily altered by Cosworth, and the parts underneath were also derived from competition models. That makes owning one of these rare steeds more costly than owning one of the lesser models.

The significantly more powerful Porsche-built 500E stole most of the luster of this car. It continued until 1994, before bowing out

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EVO 3:
2467cc four-cylinder DOHC
238bhp @ 6750rpm
0-60mph in 7-7.6s
143mph
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i think there was (are)great cars for design i prefer the 190 but for drive m3 rules!!!

TT 02-23-2004 02:45 PM

The E30 will always be my fav M3... the 190E is sexy too, but no match IMO :D

kawa22 02-23-2004 02:50 PM

http://www.mercedes-benz.com/omb/amg..._c55_g_l_1.jpg
http://www.mercedes-benz.com/omb/amg..._c55_g_l_2.jpg
http://www.mercedes-benz.com/omb/amg..._c55_g_l_3.jpg

http://www.cc.rim.or.jp/~h-ikeda/gal...tor/m3-csl.jpg
http://www.bm3w.co.uk/gallery/press/csl/m3_csl_rear.jpg

i prefer the old "human" M3 an 190

TT 02-23-2004 02:51 PM

Same here :D the modern interpretations are amazing, fast, powerfull and perfect cars, but yet, there is something special in the E30 and 190E 16v :D

kawa22 02-23-2004 02:57 PM

but the spoilers?????? Dtm style!!!!

noosee 02-23-2004 03:12 PM

M3 always :)
Old and new.

abarth 02-24-2004 11:03 AM

between 190 and E30 M3 a will pick up the 190 is too sexy and powerful.
Between M3 CSL and new c55 amg, M3 but i think that the brabus version of the mercedes will be more beatiful

bmwfreak 02-24-2004 01:44 PM

i would take the M3 CSl and the E30 M3.

Driver's cars, the both of them. Something, i doubt, mercedes could ever do.

spd 02-24-2004 01:58 PM

I am always a Bimmer guy, so without doubt I will take whatever M3 I can get. :mrgreen:

gis 02-24-2004 02:05 PM

has to be the E30 M3,so sexy for how old it is now.nice power for its year and RWD.the merc is pretty much same performance but the bimmer is nicer lookin IMO,so for me the M3 is the winner

SPEEDKILLAR 02-24-2004 06:15 PM

To drive the m3
To show of the 190 :wink:

coloradosilver 02-24-2004 06:22 PM

While these older M3s aren't ultra-high performance cars, they sure are fun play with. They make great daily drivers and are great for just cruising around in style. For that, I give them great street credit and respect.

SPEEDKILLAR 02-24-2004 06:24 PM

YEAH, their really nostalgic
you'll feel driving more than just a car :wink:

ahmedgiyab 02-24-2004 08:25 PM

I'm a huge fan of AMG...but at that time the M3 was better than the 190...

MB was never good in manual gears...but they are the best in automatic trans.!!! 8)

SPEEDKILLAR 02-24-2004 10:40 PM

Quote:

MB was never good in manual gears...but they are the best in automatic trans.!!!
I think your wrong about that, I mean they practically use the same technology and
may I ad that Mercedes has a bigger resource than bmw.
Bmw copies most of the (good)things from Mercedes, wich I can understand because they can't take too much risks


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