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Old 03-03-2005, 11:59 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by T5
But itīs a wrong perception, and if you read something about the issue you will imidiately understand why....
There are other toxic particles that arenīt CO2 and there isnīt technology available yet to clean them from the emissions of the diesel engines.
What kind of diesel fuel do they sell in Portugal mate? The regulations here are some of the strictest in the world. Not only does the diesel fuel itself need to meet a very high standard, the cars themselves are fitted with filters used to extract the remaining particles.

Also, when compared to catalytic converters used on standard petrols, the diesels do make more environmental sense. It will take 5-10 miles before a standard CC can fully "warm up" and do its job, whereas the diesel filters are ready from the start. Add the fact that the average traveling distance in the UK and Europe is 5 miles, it simply shows that on average, using a petrol car does cause more polution than a diesel one, especially when used regularly for short trips.

...it really does scream environmentalist y'know.
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Old 03-04-2005, 12:42 AM   #47
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Originally Posted by Sir_GT
Originally Posted by T5
But itīs a wrong perception, and if you read something about the issue you will imidiately understand why....
There are other toxic particles that arenīt CO2 and there isnīt technology available yet to clean them from the emissions of the diesel engines.
What kind of diesel fuel do they sell in Portugal mate? The regulations here are some of the strictest in the world. Not only does the diesel fuel itself need to meet a very high standard, the cars themselves are fitted with filters used to extract the remaining particles.

Also, when compared to catalytic converters used on standard petrols, the diesels do make more environmental sense. It will take 5-10 miles before a standard CC can fully "warm up" and do its job, whereas the diesel filters are ready from the start. Add the fact that the average traveling distance in the UK and Europe is 5 miles, it simply shows that on average, using a petrol car does cause more polution than a diesel one, especially when used regularly for short trips.

...it really does scream environmentalist y'know.
Well, we're in the 21th Century now, so only the cars with Hydrogen fuel can have a sticker that says ENVIRONMENTALIST on it. Diesel is sooooooo passé.


by the way...Go Petrol!
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Old 03-04-2005, 02:35 AM   #48
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thank you Wutputt for getting that diesel power issue straight before I got to it saved me a lot of words

the problem with diesel engines isn't the fuel, just how they combust. since they basically run by detonation, it limits the max rpms of the engine. If someone was to somehow design a high revving sports diesel with the same combustion precision of modern gasoline engines, it would decimate the competition.

as for putting a diesel in a sportscar, like an sl, imo that's pretty stupid. diesel is kind of the anti-sport in terms of image, and that's what those cars are all about

might sell well in UK tho
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Old 03-04-2005, 07:04 AM   #49
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Originally Posted by Sir_GT
Originally Posted by T5
But itīs a wrong perception, and if you read something about the issue you will imidiately understand why....
There are other toxic particles that arenīt CO2 and there isnīt technology available yet to clean them from the emissions of the diesel engines.
What kind of diesel fuel do they sell in Portugal mate? The regulations here are some of the strictest in the world. Not only does the diesel fuel itself need to meet a very high standard, the cars themselves are fitted with filters used to extract the remaining particles.

Also, when compared to catalytic converters used on standard petrols, the diesels do make more environmental sense. It will take 5-10 miles before a standard CC can fully "warm up" and do its job, whereas the diesel filters are ready from the start. Add the fact that the average traveling distance in the UK and Europe is 5 miles, it simply shows that on average, using a petrol car does cause more polution than a diesel one, especially when used regularly for short trips.

...it really does scream environmentalist y'know.
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The particle filters donīt extract all particles.
Please read something about the issue...
And by the way diesel in Portugal is the same as the diesel used in UK.
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