03-02-2005, 02:53 PM
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new CDI diesels to appear in SL, SLK-class
A new line of CDI engines has been unveiled in Geneve.
And here are the stats of the shocking ones :
SL400 CDI: V8, 315HP/730 Nm
0-100 Kph in less than 6s, top speed of 250kph ( electronically limited )
SLK320 CDI: a 3l V6, 3 turbos (two-stage turbocharging - 2 small ones and a big one) 286 Hp and 630 Nm
250kph (electronically limited ) , 0-100kph 5.3s, fuel economy 7.5l/100Km
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03-02-2005, 02:55 PM
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Very impressing engines, real torquemonsters..
But does dieselengines really belong in sportscars, maybe so?
I'm guessing these engines will find their way into most of Mercedes lines of cars. The V8 should be perfect for the new ML and how about a C400 CDI?
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03-02-2005, 03:46 PM
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Diesel engines sucks! :x
Noisy and heavy....
This kind of engines in Sports cars? :shock:
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03-02-2005, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by T5
This kind of engines in Sports cars? :shock: 
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Sadly, that's what the future is like...The upcoming Zonda successor is according to the latest news (directly from one of the employees) also said to be powered by a diesel powerplant - it's meant to be a huge surprise. The torque will be higher than the one of the veyron though.
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03-02-2005, 04:36 PM
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But why do you want more torque? Are we going to do TT with this cars or what?
And remember diesel engines have lvery little rpms....
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03-02-2005, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by T5
Diesel engines sucks! :x
Noisy and heavy....
This kind of engines in Sports cars? :shock: 
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I seriously recommend you to try a modern diesel car from a german manufacturer before you say they are noisy and heavy.
...oh and btw aren't sportscars supposed to be noisy
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03-02-2005, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghostbat
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Originally Posted by T5
Diesel engines sucks! :x
Noisy and heavy....
This kind of engines in Sports cars? :shock: 
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I seriously recommend you to try a modern diesel car from a german manufacturer before you say they are noisy and heavy.
...oh and btw aren't sportscars supposed to be noisy 
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Serious progress over the last years has been made as far as diesels are concerned. However, they are still heavy.
And yeah supercars are meant to be noisy but they are also meant to produce something better than a diesel's rattle.
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03-02-2005, 05:23 PM
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I have 1.9 tdi chipped audi A4 and it pulls from 50 till 100 km/h in 4th gear with same speed as my BMW M3 
And torque in low revs is what u usually need in everyday driving
And u dont feel that it's heavy untill u go to the race track.
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03-02-2005, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by T5
But why do you want more torque? Are we going to do TT with this cars or what?
And remember diesel engines have lvery little rpms....
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torque is arguarbly more important than power, torque is what makes the driveshaft rotate, not power.... power only really effects top speed
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03-02-2005, 05:54 PM
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Man... Mercedes has really lost the plot.
They were about opulence and ostentation, the final step of the ladder before buying a Rolls-Royce...
...now they want to make an economical roadster? Why? Is their target market supposed to be concerned with petrol bills? People bought a Mercedes to SHOW they've made it, not because they were cheap, stingy, and short on cash.
Times have really changed eh? BMW = the new status symbol. Audi = the new BMW. Mercedes = the German Ford.
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03-02-2005, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir_GT
Man... Mercedes has really lost the plot.
They were about opulence and ostentation, the final step of the ladder before buying a Rolls-Royce...
...now they want to make an economical roadster? Why? Is their target market supposed to be concerned with petrol bills? People bought a Mercedes to SHOW they've made it, not because they were cheap, stingy, and short on cash.
Times have really changed eh? BMW = the new status symbol. Audi = the new BMW. Mercedes = the German Ford.
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I 2nd that!! Cheapest thing BMW has is the 1 series, and it still isn't cheap. I guess Maybach is what Mercedes has left. And Chrysler is what Mercedes is supposed to be selling to the common man, not Mercedes!
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03-02-2005, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghostbat
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Originally Posted by T5
Diesel engines sucks! :x
Noisy and heavy....
This kind of engines in Sports cars? :shock: 
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I seriously recommend you to try a modern diesel car from a german manufacturer before you say they are noisy and heavy.
...oh and btw aren't sportscars supposed to be noisy 
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I´ve already tried several.
Noisy?Yes but is the kind of noyse that feels like a symphony,not a tractor....
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03-02-2005, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mindgam3
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Originally Posted by T5
But why do you want more torque? Are we going to do TT with this cars or what?
And remember diesel engines have lvery little rpms....
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torque is arguarbly more important than power, torque is what makes the driveshaft rotate, not power.... power only really effects top speed
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Remember,that if you have too much torque you are wasting tires for nothing.... :roll:
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03-02-2005, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by T5
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Originally Posted by mindgam3
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Originally Posted by T5
But why do you want more torque? Are we going to do TT with this cars or what?
And remember diesel engines have lvery little rpms....
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torque is arguarbly more important than power, torque is what makes the driveshaft rotate, not power.... power only really effects top speed
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Remember,that if you have too much torque you are wasting tires for nothing.... :roll:
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Maybe that's because you drive a fwd car, they usually have more problems with massive power than proper rwd cars.. :roll:
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03-02-2005, 08:44 PM
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Try a torque of 700nm at 1950rpm or 2000rpm in a RWD car and then tell me the result,ok?
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