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inso

02-07-2007, 10:22 AM

http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/country/gcf/spyphotoID/6070207.002/bmw/spy-photos-new-bmw-roadster

more new roadster spy pictures

chest3r

02-07-2007, 10:46 AM

^^ That looks like a Z4. It's to small to be a Z6 or Z9

blue8

02-07-2007, 11:24 AM

it does look small but looks great anyway... though i'd prefer a soft top if it were the Z4

dutchmasterflex

02-07-2007, 12:10 PM

Spy vid of the E92 M3

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/videos/spy-video-of-bmw%e2%80%99s-e92-m3/

I have congratulate the cameraman, filming while driving at those speeds...

Sweet video.. camera man definitely has some skills.

Too bad you can't hear the M3 :\

There was that older video of a kid who caught the M3 testing and actually talked to the driver shortly.. sounded great in that one.

silentm

02-07-2007, 02:00 PM

wow some serious skill from that dude, nice video :P and that guy had simply no chance keeping up :shock:

ZfrkS62

02-07-2007, 03:24 PM

wicked vid of the M3 :D

I'm not sure that roadster shot is the new one. It definitely does not have a retractable roof like the description says. It looks pretty close to the E85 hardtop cover. If you look at the back, there's really no place to store a folding hard top and i'm having a tough time envisioning a feasible way to retract it and store it the way they do with the soft top. Besides, i think we still have 4 more years until the Z4's lifespan is up.

Chaos in 1983!

02-08-2007, 11:01 AM

So when will we finally see it?

ZfrkS62

02-09-2007, 12:56 AM

ok, i was explaining to my shop foreman what was going on in here with the so called "Z9" test mules, and from what he was saying, there will be no roadster after the Z4 lifespan is over. According to what he has heard, BMW feels this market has been tapped and will not be bringing out another roadster. Not for about 10 more years anyway.

So until i hear otherwise, no more roadster mules please.

inso

02-11-2007, 05:57 PM

http://zatzy.com/showthread.php?t=289633 check these two E90 bmws, me likes...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46951 this is one beauty too.

bmwdriver

02-13-2007, 08:38 AM

best thread in this forum :wink:

Just_me

02-14-2007, 03:28 AM

PRESS RELEASE: M SPORT COMES TO THE 3 SERIES COUPE AND CONVERTIBLE

The BMW 3 Series Coupe and Convertible ranges both have a new flagship model. The M Sport specification level is now the most dynamic and sporting incarnation currently available for the recently launched Coupé and Convertible ranges.

Offered on all engine variants, M Sport cars come with a raft of additional equipment as standard compared to an SE model. An M Aerodynamic body styling package gives the cars a distinct, sporting look, while Sport suspension with a stiffer, and 15mm lower, set-up provides a more focussed ride. All models come with 18-inch M star-spoke light alloy wheels as standard with a differently styled 19-inch M Double-spoke light alloy wheel as an option. High-gloss Shadow line exterior finishes to the window surrounds is also a standard feature.

Inside, all M Sport models feature Sports seats upholstered in Blue Shadow cloth Alcantara, Individual anthracite headlining, M designation doorsill finishers and a short-shift M gearlever with a perforated leather gaiter and handbrake lever. A Brushed Aluminium interior trim and M leather steering wheel complete the package.

M Sport models are traditionally a popular choice for BMW buyers. On six-cylinder-engined 3 Series Coupé and Convertible models they account for more than three-quarters of all sales. The introduction of this latest generation of sports model is expected to maintain this ratio. M Sport model cars are only available in a choice of four metallic colours (Titanium Silver, Black Sapphire, Le Mans Blue, Sparkling Graphite) and two non-metallic colours (Alpine White, Crimson Red).

Prices start at £28,330 OTR for a 320i M Sport Coupé rising to £37,745 OTR for a 335d M Sport Coupé. The entry-level 320i M Sport Convertible costs £32,255 OTR while the range-topping 335i M Sport costs £40,250 OTR..

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/733/e931rf5.th.jpg (http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=e931rf5.jpg)http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/9452/e932ju2.th.jpg (http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=e932ju2.jpg)

ZfrkS62

02-21-2007, 11:16 PM

http://img163.imagevenue.com/loc247/th_02817_140509a_122_247lo.jpg (http://img163.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=02817_140509a_122_247lo.jpg)http://img152.imagevenue.com/loc40/th_02827_140509b_122_40lo.jpg (http://img152.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=02827_140509b_122_40lo.jpg)http://img164.imagevenue.com/loc169/th_02832_140509c_122_169lo.jpg (http://img164.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=02832_140509c_122_169lo.jpg)http://img132.imagevenue.com/loc107/th_02837_140509d_122_107lo.jpg (http://img132.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=02837_140509d_122_107lo.jpg)

i'd love to know where the hell this is :?

blue8

02-24-2007, 10:33 AM

From KGP and Winding Road:

We’ve already shown you spy shots of BMW’s upcoming mystery convertible, whose name and mission remain up in the air. Many have felt (including us) that the car’s length points to an uplevel Z9 designation and price point, but some have speculated that the roadster is in fact the next Z4.

Some interesting insights have been brought to light by these first-ever top down shots, leading spy shooters at KGP Photography to suspect that the car is in fact a prototype for the less-expensive Z4, a car which many sources pegged as growing to provide room for an even smaller, cheaper convertible (Z2?).

According to our long-lensed friends, there are a few contextual clues worth paying attention to. For one, the cloth interior of this tester could just be for a prototype, but their inclusion could well point to less expensive vehicle (read: Z4). Furthermore, this mule was seen dicing it up with a Mazda MX-5, which was likely on-hand for dynamic benchmarking.

Finally, the apparent size discrepancy between the current Z4 and this car may be partially explained away by some creative camouflaging which appears to leave “several inches” worth of space between the cover-ups and the actual body panels that lurk beneath.

Behold the first shots of BMW’s new convertible prototype caught with its top down. It probably sounded like a good idea at the time, but the temptation of a top-down test run came back to bite these BMW engineers when our photographer caught the car stuck in traffic and pounced on them at a stop light. The close-ups didn’t yield any meaningful dashboard details thanks to the interior’s protective covering and the flailing arms of the engineers, but we did manage to see some details that suggest this might actually be a Z4 after all, and not the Merc SL-fighting Z9.

First off, we have been told that the MX-5 Miata you see driving in front of this prototype was no mere traffic coincidence. Our photographer reports that the Miata appeared to be part of the test group throughout the afternoon. It seemed to be on hand for comparison purposes–which would clearly point to the Z4 replacement as the likely I.D. of this prototype. These topless photos also reveal that this test car had cloth seats–something that would never be found on a car in the Z9’s stratosphere–once again strengthening the Z4 case. The stowed top also gives a more revealing look at the rear deck just behind the car’s roll-hoops, and cut lines suggest that this could be a conventional soft top, and not the folding tin- top destined for the range-topping Z9. We can’t know for sure until we see the folding top in action, but it all looks quite suspicious to us.

As for the apparent size discrepancy between this prototype and the Z4, it could largely due to some ingenious camouflage. A closer look at some of the space between the outer camouflage and the true body that lies beneath suggests that the camo shell may sit several inches above the real body panels in many places. The hood camouflage, for example, easily sits 4- to 6-inches above the true hood-line, at the cowl. Strategic placement of such misleading dimensional cues can be very effective in playing tricks on our eyes and perceptions. There may be a significantly more svelte and petit car under all of that armor. And the next-gen Z4 could logically be upsized a bit, if BMW plans to bring a smaller Z2 into its lineup by decade’s-end, as rumors suggest.

These latest open-top shots of this Z-car prototype may raise more questions than they answer, but they give us a better sense of what lies at the heart of these mysterious test cars. Our first look into the cockpit area suggests that this is a car aimed at a more mainstream part of the market–and not at the stratosphere–which has us beginning to lean back toward the Z4.

http://news.windingroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/bmw-z4-r-kgp-ed.jpg
http://news.windingroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/bmw-z4-f-kgp-ed.jpg[/list]

STE92VE

02-24-2007, 11:13 AM

Sir_GT

02-24-2007, 11:22 AM

ZfrkS62

02-25-2007, 12:57 AM

ae86_16v

02-26-2007, 03:50 PM

DSG 420HP M3?

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/02/26/420-hp-dsg-equipped-m3-concept-coming-to-geneva/

ZfrkS62

02-26-2007, 04:43 PM

DSG 420HP M3?

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/02/26/420-hp-dsg-equipped-m3-concept-coming-to-geneva/

now that would be something. even though i have no idea just what the performance benefits are of a DSG box over a conventional, but i'm sure that will change soon.

ZfrkS62

02-27-2007, 05:06 AM

You may notice in that list that there is a new engine listed, designated the N51. This is the SULEV replacement for the M56 motor. It is available in certain 328i's in AUTOMATIC trans only. I am not sure as to the complete designation because none of the literature mentions it.

I just received my VIN and it's coded for the N51 SULEV engine, but my car is a 6MT. Can you confirm this info?

I forgot to mention in my reply to you, Welcome to Jabbasworld.

I also made a mistake in the post which he quoted: The N51 engine is actually a PZEV classified engine (Partial Zero Emissions Vehicle) which means it's emissions output is about as close as you can get to nothing. It does replace the SULEV M56 directly, but the N52 motors are now SULEV IIRC.

Like it's M56 predecessor, it is identical to it's environmentally-less-friendly sibling, the N52, (by comparison of course. The New Generation engines are actually quite clean) performance wise.

STE92VE

02-27-2007, 11:36 AM

Thanks for all your help. Maybe you can answer this question I just thought of....what would be the reason for limiting the SULEV engine to an auto tranny?

ZfrkS62

02-28-2007, 12:24 AM

Thanks for all your help. Maybe you can answer this question I just thought of....what would be the reason for limiting the SULEV engine to an auto tranny?

well, again i seem to have fucked up. The new technical stuff that has come out along with the E9x series is making it quite confusing.

PZEV apparently has stainless steel tanks and lines, whereas SULEV is just the engine. So the N51 is a SULEV II engine.

Washington, Oregon, Connecticut, and Rhode Island have all adapted SULEV emissions guidelines, so therefore the N51 is now offered in these states along with previous SULEV states, California, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, and Maine

As far as why only AT can be set behind a SULEV engine, i don't know.

inso

03-03-2007, 05:03 AM

http://www.autoblog.nl/archive/2007/02/28/onthuld-alpina-b3-biturbo#post-8546

335ci->B3 with 360hp and enough torq to make new M3 run for its money..

http://www.autoblog.nl/archive/2007/02/04/komt-de-nieuwe-m3-standaard-in-het-wit
some E92 M3 photoshops in colours.

ae86_16v

03-03-2007, 07:10 AM

http://www.autoblog.nl/archive/2007/02/04/komt-de-nieuwe-m3-standaard-in-het-wit
some E92 M3 photoshops in colours.

:puke: I don't know about the rest of you guys, but that front air damn is disgusting.

But I think these PSes are a bit off, I think it would be closer to the M Sports Pack released for the E92 already.

Similar. . .

http://img171.imagevenue.com/loc124/th_12230_attachment_122_124lo.jpeg (http://img171.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc124&image=12230_attachment_122_124lo.jpeg)

Just like how the M5 bumper is very similar to the M Sports Packaged E60, except for the foglights of course.

Just_me

03-06-2007, 05:39 AM

not its about 6 hours left before the presentation of the new BMW M3 V8

ae86_16v

03-06-2007, 06:44 AM

not its about 6 hours left before the presentation of the new BMW M3 V8

:lol:

Just_me

03-06-2007, 07:00 AM

not its about 6 hours left before the presentation of the new BMW M3 V8

:lol:

EDIT: 4 hours left.....

ae86_16v

03-06-2007, 07:15 AM

not its about 6 hours left before the presentation of the new BMW M3 V8

:lol:

EDIT: 4 hours left.....

Just in time when I wake up :D .

chest3r

03-06-2007, 08:24 AM

:multi: :multi: Can't wait !!!

But I'm sure it will be almost the same as the test cars we've seen. I'm only curious for the wheels.

Just_me

03-06-2007, 09:41 AM

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4007/m3conceptvc3.jpg

Some guys at the show are reporting ''Rumours of leaked paperwork at Geneva this morning already say 4.0L V8, 440 HP, 330 kW, 440 N.m 0-100 km/h in 4.6 secs..''

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=91650

thepest

03-06-2007, 11:35 AM

Ok carbon roof and the new mirrors are official, now....waiting for more..

inso

03-06-2007, 11:37 AM

Sound was nice too
http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-m3.html
some pics
http://shows.autospies.com/gallery/Geneva-Auto-Show-54/page29/
better pics

thepest

03-06-2007, 11:58 AM

OMFG did you see the hood!!!

dutchmasterflex

03-06-2007, 12:07 PM

I knew the hood would make the car ;)

Lexus should take note and redesign their hideous IS-F hood.

Great job using the CSL rims too.. damn I want one.. NOW.

thepest

03-06-2007, 12:08 PM

http://www.bimmerpost.com/images/m43.jpg

http://www.bimmerpost.com/images/m47.jpg

http://www.bimmerpost.com/images/m40.jpg

http://www.bimmerpost.com/images/m51.jpg

f***ing enjoy this crazy M3

I'm in luv!!

SPEEDKILLAR

03-06-2007, 12:13 PM

Best looking car BMW has at the moment, absolutly stunning, almost orgasmic :D

Erez

03-06-2007, 12:15 PM

:love: I like it 8)

chest3r

03-06-2007, 12:29 PM

One word: Stunning !!! :shock: :love: :drool:

It's way more aggressive than I was expecting. That rear bumper is really aggressive,it was a surprise for me, but I think I like it.

inso

03-06-2007, 12:44 PM

http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-m3.html
official pics, dsg is not bad neither.

Just_me

03-06-2007, 12:52 PM

http://www.automanias.nl/photos/wallpapers/BMW%20M3-2.jpg
http://www.automanias.nl/photos/wallpapers/BMW%20M3-3.jpg
http://www.automanias.nl/photos/wallpapers/BMW%20M3-1.jpg
http://www.automanias.nl/photos/wallpapers/BMW%20M3.jpg

MIHALS

03-06-2007, 01:16 PM

really badass :twisted:

hope there will be some of them at NR :D

when are they planning to put them to the showrooms?

Just_me

03-06-2007, 01:27 PM

LED?

http://www.bimmerpost.com/images/mw13.jpg

ae86_16v

03-06-2007, 01:43 PM

Hey Look at the mirrors, similar to my E36 M3s, weird fender grills, hood vents too.

I still don't like the front bumper!

5vz-fe

03-06-2007, 02:31 PM

I don't like the hood and the rear bumper has too many things sticking out.

Otherwise it's very freshing.

Skaala

03-06-2007, 04:31 PM

bonnet bulge is cool!

Svensson

03-06-2007, 06:59 PM

Finally, after all the waiting... :D

I must say it looks better than I thought it would! The only thing that I dislike is the front bumper, it looks a bit odd... And although the E46 M3 looked a lot more aggresive and just "right", BMW has done quite a nice job on this one! Now just wait for the official engine-specs... 440hp doesn't sound bad! :twisted:

TopGearNL

03-06-2007, 07:24 PM

Thanks for the pics, love that car! Mostly because of its rims, look great! :twisted:

ZfrkS62

03-07-2007, 12:50 AM

Hey Look at the mirrors, similar to my E36 M3s, weird fender grills, hood vents too.

I still don't like the front bumper!

before i address ae's statement....i believe i have just messed myself....

now..

if the M5's front facia is any indication, it's more function over form. the front end of the M5 knocks off half the lift generated by the body work at a buck twenty five over the 545 body, so the M3's bumper should have a similar effect.

This thing is absolutely gorgeous :love: I can't wait to see one on the showroom floor, let alone drive one :D I really didn't expect something like this :D And if those numbers prove true....OMG...Speed cameras around the world are going to capturing blurs :mrgreen:

r2r

03-07-2007, 02:20 AM

I would have to disagree with most of you on the new M3 it seems

I really think the design is a big disappointment!

First, the front is the main disappointment, looks way too tacky and looks like the sheet metal is dripping.

Secondly, the front and rear look like a body kit that was designed as an add on to the car, rather then designed with the car. The previous M3 was much more successful at this and was a far better execution in my opinion.

Just_me

03-07-2007, 03:11 AM

dont forget this is a concept car, whats there to stay on the final production we dont know yet

r2r

03-07-2007, 03:54 AM

Ah, I see.

But I don't think much is going to change,

Although I would gladly accept any changes to this one :P

ae86_16v

03-08-2007, 05:44 PM

Google Maps & BMW

Google Maps - Send to BMW - YouTube

GPS navigation systems continue to be a popular option for car buyers. Some of the most frequent complaints with electronic navigation, however, are that the maps themselves aren't updated frequently enough and that problems seem to occur when the GPS tells drivers to go down a route that may not be navigable. With the ability to be interactive and updated (even if infrequently), they still represent a huge step up in functionality over the paper maps of yore. Not only can you designate a destination and have the route personalized for you, other points of interest can be highlighted, traffic updates can be monitored, and you never have to try to refold them, so in our book it's a no-brainer.

Physically entering the desired address into the system can be tedious and distracting, however, especially at speed. BMW has developed a way to remove the middle man so to speak, which is you. With this new system, users can access Google business listings on their own computer and then forward the address and details to their Drive Assist-equipped BMWs. Rather than re-entering the information, the navi already knows it when the driver's but hits the seat. It's a nice time saver that helps make the process more accurate and safer, too. While we'd still like to have access to Google Maps when we're actually in the car, skipping the re-entry of the address helps quite a bit and it's definitely a step in the right direction. Check out the video of how it works after the jump.

[Source: Engadget]

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/03/08/bmw-and-google-maps-marry-dash-and-desktop/
http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/08/germans-send-data-straight-from-google-maps-to-bmws/

Svensson

03-09-2007, 11:34 AM

^ If it is, the CLS looks far better (and I'm a BMW fan) :wink:

ZfrkS62

03-10-2007, 12:42 AM

who the hell puked out that 5,6 and 7 compilation? :?

ae86_16v

03-10-2007, 01:09 AM

1-Series cabrio

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p260/dani_d_mas/37719_450.jpg

Ugh, that is pretty bad. Sorry.

rave426

03-12-2007, 04:37 PM

BMW 4-door coupe to rivalize with the CLS?

http://www.auto-news.de/webcore/data/content/Auto_Article_EXT/18376_1172058223115.jpg

That is pretty damn ugly. Somebody just decided stretch out a 6 series. Actually the more I look at the 6 series, the more it becomes hideous to me. Usually it goes the other way :|

As bad I as I hate to say it, Merc's are looking far better than Bimmers nowadays..........Although I like the 3 Series much more than the C-class

blue8

03-15-2007, 02:54 PM

From Winding Road:
http://news.windingroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/1346h3-bmw-m3-4-door-hi-int-copy.jpg
http://news.windingroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/1346h1-bmw-m3-4-door-hi-int-copy.jpg
http://news.windingroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/1346h2-bmw-m3-4-door-hi-int-copy.jpg
http://news.windingroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/1346h4-bmw-m3-convert-hi-int-copy.jpg
http://news.windingroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/1346h5-bmw-m3-convert-hi-int-copy.jpg
http://news.windingroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/1346h6-bmw-m3-convert-hi-int-copy.jpg

We just broke the cover on the next BMW M3 (in concept form, at least) and engine details will be published here on March 22. Until then, our spy shooter Hans Lehmann has another interesting bit of news to report: sights of a four-door and convertible M3!

Click through for more shots of the four-door M3 and the convertible.

When BMW unveiled their M3 concept in Geneva few weeks ago, we knew the coupe wouldn’t be the only vehicle in the ultra-fast M lineup for the 3-series platform. It seems that while the M3 coupe will launch first, sedan and convertible versions will debut shortly thereafter. Expect the same powerplant — the company’s new S65 V-8 engine, generating somewhere between 400 and 450 horsepower — and similar cues.

Hans Lehmann has this to say about these shots:
BMW M3 Four Door and Convertible

After 13 years BMW is about to come back on the market with an M3 four door. Back in 1995 the Bavarian car manufacturer had already a four door in the M3 lineup, but then for just one model year.

This fall, BMW will start off with the launch of the new M3 model range by introducing coupe version. In spring 2008 the convertible M3 will follow, and finally in autumn another brand new four-door version will be unveiled. This one, however, has at the most the four doors in common with this predecessor, because while the 1995 M3 was powered by a 3.0 liter inline-6 engine delivering 296 HP, the M3 cars of today gets power from a strong 4.0 litre V-8, which should be able to accelerate in 4.6 sec. to 100 km/h.

Ok, so I know Winding Road isn't exactly the most reliable source of news, but this is great news for me! I am very excited about the M3 sedan!

chest3r

03-15-2007, 04:22 PM

^ If it is, the CLS looks far better (and I'm a BMW fan) :wink:

That's just a photoshop !!! Is it so hard to understand that a PS is always ugly ! It's just a mix of informations about the design of the car.

Anyway. This car is already late !! :D

Svensson

03-15-2007, 06:54 PM

^ No shit Sherlock...

What I meant was: If it will look anything like that, its looks will be no match for the CLS.

And PS always ugly? I don't know how good your Photoshop-skills are, but there are some pretty skillful PS artist out there...

chest3r

03-15-2007, 07:31 PM

It's not about PS skills but about car design skills :wink:

TopGearNL

03-15-2007, 08:00 PM

That looks like a M3 in 3-series sedan disquish :twisted:

blue8

03-16-2007, 01:37 PM

From Winding Road:
http://news.windingroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/1346h7-bmw-m3-4-door-hi-int.jpg
http://news.windingroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/1346h8-bmw-m3-4-door-hi-int.jpg
Our spy photograher Hans Lehmann caught up with another BMW M3 sedan again today and managed to get a few more shots. This time, we get a clear view of the front of the car, which appears to have a modified front air dam but little in the way of a hood bulge (which was clearly one of the concept’s most striking visual elements). bmw3light.jpgThankfully, BMW has revised their front headlight treatment so that the car looks more in keeping with their recently debuted 3-series coupe. The old headlight design is shown at the right.

Obviously, this is only a prototype — we expect the hood bulge and many other exterior elements to appear in the production trim.

More spyshots:
http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-m3-sedan-future.html[/img]

ae86_16v

03-16-2007, 03:16 PM

^ I guess BMW is breaking with tradition by facelifting cars earlier now. Usually they are done after the 4th MY year. Huh. I thought that they would want to have different treatments for Coupe and Sedans.

ae86_16v

03-19-2007, 05:12 AM

http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline/2496

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3534/enclosurekm4.th.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=enclosurekm4.jpg)

blue8

03-19-2007, 11:11 AM

From Car Scoop
M3 Sedan and Convertible renderings:
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/184/carscoopm3sc0ol9.th.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=carscoopm3sc0ol9.jpg)http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/9360/carscoopm3sc1kv9.th.jpg (http://img380.imageshack.us/my.php?image=carscoopm3sc1kv9.jpg)http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/9382/carscoopm3sc2lr3.th.jpg (http://img380.imageshack.us/my.php?image=carscoopm3sc2lr3.jpg)

chest3r

03-19-2007, 11:25 AM

http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline/2496

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3534/enclosurekm4.th.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=enclosurekm4.jpg)

Nice to see it almost without camo. It looks good to me, as I was expecting :P Rear lights reminds me of the 3 series coupe ones :roll:

blue8

03-21-2007, 11:40 AM

From Motor Authority:
Reports are surfacing about a possible new crossover from BMW based on the platform underpinning the upcoming 1-series coupe. BMW’s boss Norbert Reithofer confirmed during an interview with German buff mag Auto Zeitung that the new car, which is likely to be labeled the X1, is still in the proposal stage. Reithofer also mentioned that BMW needs to add more high-end sports models to its lineup, referring to the older Z8 Roadster and M1 supercar. “These are the type of products we need in the future” he said.

If given the go-ahead, the new X1 could be on the market by 2010. To speed up development, the coupe-crossover is expected to utilize the X-drive 4WD system from the current X3 with powertrains and electronics coming from the 1-series. Production numbers are expected to be around the 100,000 mark with work most likely outsourced to the Magna-Steyr factory near Graz.

When questioned about the impending emissions laws that the European Council is proposing, Reithofer says BMW is well positioned to meet the targets and would not require any change to its future lineup. BMW has been developing its new ultra-clean models as early as 2001, with direct injection and hybrid technology to be available soon across most of its model range.

Mr. Reithofer has been busy releasing details of future BMW models to the press in recent times. Last week, he confirmed the new X6 crossover would be built in America.

TopGearNL

03-21-2007, 05:49 PM

Yeah I love the look of the Sedan too! :D

ZfrkS62

03-21-2007, 09:05 PM

ae86_16v

03-21-2007, 11:04 PM

ZfrkS62

03-21-2007, 11:37 PM

After lunch break from class today, we were all sitting around bs'ing (not uncommon) and the topic of the X6 came up. Our instructor worked at the Spartanburg plant for awhile and is still on their email list.

An email was sent out from the big wigs announcing that the X6 is being approved for production :( It will be built in Spartanburg along with the X5 and Z4. No dates on when this is all supposed to be going down though.

:roll:

Yeah, not sure about that X6. . . did your instructor say what it is?

6er on a 4x4 platform is all he said.

There also may be 335xi mules roaming around Europe somewhere. If not yet, should be soon if they decide to go forward with it. I don't see why they wouldn't put X-Drive on a 335. It would give the A4 Quattro a run for it's money :D

Just_me

03-22-2007, 04:20 AM

BMW M3 V8

http://www.motorauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/BMW/M3/Off1/m3_v8_small.jpg

4 litre V8
420 bhp / 8300 rpm
max 8400 rpm
400 Nm at 3900 rpm
340 Nm at 2000 rpm
comp 12:1
engine weight 202 kg

# 26 lb heavier than 335i engine!
# 84 lb lighter than M5 S85
# 15kg less than M3 E46 engine

Just_me

03-22-2007, 06:50 AM

M3 V8 photos

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7303/13583817hj0.th.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13583817hj0.jpg)http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4475/23836595zf7.th.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=23836595zf7.jpg)http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/174/89241095sj4.th.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=89241095sj4.jpg)http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9239/82778252kp7.th.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=82778252kp7.jpg)
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http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8387/74467280nz2.th.jpg (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=74467280nz2.jpg)http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2317/32861854xa2.th.jpg (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=32861854xa2.jpg)http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3782/65613971xj8.th.jpg (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=65613971xj8.jpg)
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http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/130/96002529vw5.th.jpg (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=96002529vw5.jpg)

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9419/10537039mn3.th.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10537039mn3.jpg)http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/270/53282384ud0.th.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=53282384ud0.jpg)http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/3233/99047450bg1.th.jpg (http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=99047450bg1.jpg)http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/7601/57513467vs4.th.jpg (http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=57513467vs4.jpg)http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/6317/14369476ov8.th.jpg (http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14369476ov8.jpg)
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ae86_16v

03-22-2007, 07:10 AM

Thanks for all the pictures!!!

saadie

03-22-2007, 08:00 AM

glowing headers ..sexyy! :drool: :lol:

TopGearNL

03-22-2007, 08:44 AM

Thanks for the pics of the engine! :twisted:

So clean..

thepest

03-22-2007, 09:21 AM

Those numbers/pictures make me wanna cry....with excitement!

M3 rules....all the way baby. Everything else just died. Same hp as rs4 but BMW hp is one thing Audi hp is another!

Thanks just_me

Just_me

03-22-2007, 09:35 AM

280nm@1800 rpm
340nm@2000 rpm
400nm@4000 rpm
400nm@6000 rpm
390nm@7000 rpm
370nm@8000 rpm
350nm@8400 rpm

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/1995/engl1gx4.th.jpg (http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=engl1gx4.jpg)http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/7066/engl2fk0.th.jpg (http://img71.imageshack.us/my.php?image=engl2fk0.jpg)

Just_me

03-22-2007, 09:53 AM

English pressrelese

http://shrani.si/files/thenewv8enwcux.pdf

dutchmasterflex

03-22-2007, 10:02 AM

thanks just_me :good:

Those pictures of the engine get me all hot n bothered :oops:

ZfrkS62

03-22-2007, 10:16 AM

^ 2 more cylinders and still lighter than the E46 M3 engines - shows how unefficient that engine was :wink: :P

As for the X6 - no please... no. It's totally uncenessary with the X5 and X3 on the road. Who would ever want a 6-Series-based SUV afterall? will it be 2 or 4-doors anyway?

Personally, i think they will let the X3 die. there is too much market saturation with SUVs right now to push a 3 models at a time. I think they will probably make it 4 doors. 2 door SUV sounds pretty stupid.

Just_me: these pics are awesome. this little motor should fit nicely into BMW's arsenal for the Power Wars 8)

ZfrkS62

03-22-2007, 10:20 AM

ViperASR

03-22-2007, 03:14 PM

OMG
:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
:love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

ViperASR

03-22-2007, 03:18 PM

^ 2 more cylinders and still lighter than the E46 M3 engines - shows how unefficient that engine was :wink: :P?

What is more impressive is it shows how far the technology has come in just a few years to allow the engine to be lighter, more powerful, and rev higher. The E46 M3 motor was no pig when it came out, it was a technological marvel. Even by todays standards it is still one helluva motor.

tom333

03-22-2007, 03:41 PM

thepest

03-22-2007, 03:50 PM

OMG
:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
:love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

That's all that can be said, m8!

dutchmasterflex

03-22-2007, 03:52 PM

^ 2 more cylinders and still lighter than the E46 M3 engines - shows how unefficient that engine was :wink: :P

As for the X6 - no please... no. It's totally uncenessary with the X5 and X3 on the road. Who would ever want a 6-Series-based SUV afterall? will it be 2 or 4-doors anyway?

the x6 was confirmed but its not an suv!!!

Well the X5 and X3 aren't SUV's either according to BMW.

Where did you hear that the X6 is official?

666fast

03-22-2007, 07:16 PM

rave426

03-22-2007, 09:41 PM

ZfrkS62

03-22-2007, 09:44 PM

The flatness of the torque curve is awsome, but that is the most linear hp curve i have seen in a long while. These engines are going to be taking beatings by there owners. 8400rpm is very impressive for a V8. Somebody WILL throw a rod! HA

I had wished for more hp to kick the RS4's ass, nevertheless, with the noise this car will make I can live with that. Damn those ppl at ///M are good!

I dunno if this car will be driven or babied. i'm sure there will be a few that modify their suspension and exhaust, but as far as actually driving them? who knows :bah:

SPEEDKILLAR

03-22-2007, 10:42 PM

fordgt84

03-23-2007, 01:00 PM

Ahhhh at last...beautiful engine this one, if they make a csl version and follow the same hp/l figure as the E46 CSL (112.5 hp/l) then we'd get 450hp...cant wait to see the new car and hear that high revvin engine :D

ZfrkS62

03-24-2007, 04:20 AM

Beautiful pics of the machine being tested, love the whole scenery :D

But, I wonder if this engine will have the same orange lights built in the rpm counter, and that you have to wait a bit before revving all the way up? And this is still a BMW, so it is prone to mechanical failures at the beginning of the production.

it will have the warm up indicators yes. The S85 has held up pretty well in the early stages of production with no recalls or bulletins like the S54 had, so i don't see any reason to be concerned with the S65.

California members, be on the look out. There are apparently a few E87s running around the state, and possibly New Jersey as well. The E87 1er is slated for 2008, along with the re-introduction of the diesel engines.

inso

03-24-2007, 05:45 AM

Actually those vanos problems are gone now, since it works differently than before, now it should last as long as the engine.

ae86_16v

03-27-2007, 06:04 PM

ZfrkS62

03-27-2007, 11:49 PM

40,000 Spartanburg X6s:

BMW is preparing capacity in Spartanburg, SC, to build as many as 40,000 X6 "Sports Activity Coupes" on top of the 104,632 Z4s and X5s built in 2006. With the 165,000 vehicles slated to be built in 2007, that would push Spartanburg production past 200,000.

considering the fact that the Z4 and X5 are now built on the same track, this is going to be fucking impressive :shock:

ae86_16v

03-28-2007, 01:58 AM

40,000 X6.... are they kidding?!

This car will be as successful as the Mercs R-Klasse... which is almost invisible around here! :wink:

I see a few soccer moms with them. But usually they are driving X5s and MLs.

blue8

04-03-2007, 01:18 PM

More E90 M3 spyshots:
http://63.151.139.220/spyphotos/6070403.003/6070403.003.1L.jpg
http://63.151.139.220/spyphotos/6070403.003/6070403.003.mini3L.jpg
http://63.151.139.220/spyphotos/6070403.003/6070403.003.mini4L.jpg
http://63.151.139.220/spyphotos/6070403.003/6070403.003.mini5L.jpg

Excited about this car! :D

blue8

04-04-2007, 01:26 AM

From Leftlane News:

BMW 8-Series to return with new 850i?

BMW is considering building a four-door "coupe" to compete with the Mercedes CLS-Class, according to a new report by German magazine Auto Zeitung. The vehicle would likely revive the 8-Series designation, starting with a new 850i.

BMW offered an 8-Series in the 1990s, with the V12 850Ci delivering 326 horsepower. A less expensive 840i delivered 286 hp. While V12 power is not a certainty for a new 8-Series, BMW does have a V12 engine from its 760i sedan at its disposal. The company also has its M division V10 available, as well as a range of V8s. The Auto Zeitung report suggests the first model would be an 850i, which means BMW is likely to use its V8 powerplant from the 550i and 650i in the base model.

Conflicting reports

In June 2006, Germany's Auto Bild ran a cover story on BMW's planned rival to the Mercedes CLS. At the time, we at Leftlane speculated it might signal the revival of the 8-Series.

The magazine later reported that the vehicle was in fact the next-generation 6-series, which it says will be offered in two- and four-door variants under the same nameplate.

More news:
BMW will use the Shanghai auto show later this month to unveil a cocnept version of its forthcoming Z9 sports car, according to trade publication Automotive News.

Set to be unveiled April 22nd, the concept will preview what is sure to be BMW's most expensive model — a rival to the Mercedes SL-Class and Audi R8, and a sucessor to the Z8 sports car.

A source to the publication said BMW aims to sell 15,000 units anually. BMW sold just 5,700 Z8s between 2000 and 2003.

A BMW insider told Auto News the Z9 will have a folding hardtop roof and a front-engine configuration. The source said BMW might also offer a fixed-roof coupe version.

rave426

04-05-2007, 02:21 PM

Check this out at BMW International. Do the configurator......!!!!

The new M3 is going to be insane. The 19 inch wheels really set it off.

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/index_highend.html

ZfrkS62

04-05-2007, 03:02 PM

ok, apparently someone didn't see what i said about the Z line. from what has been passed down through the guys higher up in BMW NA, BMW feels that the roadster market is saturated and after the Z4, will no longer be making a roadster.

As for the 8 series revival...i've been hoping for this since i saw the 645 :twisted: the E31 was a wicked looking machine and to bring back the 850i would just be wicked. And then to suff the V12 into it?! Bring it on :twisted:

i saw that there was a message on DCSnet about the 335xi's having been shipped out. so keep an eye out for those if you're in the market to buy a turbo charged all wheel drive :D

dutchmasterflex

04-05-2007, 03:26 PM

It is the perfect time for BMW to bring back the 8-series, but I just hope they don't fuck it up by making it a '4-door' coupe to compete with the CLS and the like.

Mr.Vercetti

04-05-2007, 03:49 PM

^^^^

Hmm... BMW like Alfa had always a special connection with the coupes. So imo if a new 8 series is to be introduced it will be a classic 2 door coupe.

Neema702

04-05-2007, 05:32 PM

great find Rave426, its the first time ive seen the M3 with the 19" rims, they totally change the look of the car, its the first time ive thought the E90 looked sick, really need to see it in person

ZfrkS62

04-05-2007, 06:27 PM

^^^^

Hmm... BMW like Alfa had always a special connection with the coupes. So imo if a new 8 series is to be introduced it will be a classic 2 door coupe.

but here's the problem: The 6 series is the current coupe occupying the price slot. clocking in at $90K+, where would another coupe fit in? Surely not at $150K. BMW doesn't have a market there. anyone willing to plunk down anything more than 130, will probably pick up the Alpina B7. As much as I would love to see the 8 series make a return, i just don't see where they would stick it.

ae86_16v

04-05-2007, 07:12 PM

Check this out at BMW International. Do the configurator......!!!!

The new M3 is going to be insane. The 19 inch wheels really set it off.

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/index_highend.html

Cool find man. Thanks for hte link. Can't wait for the Film to see what they got up their sleeves.

Bernardo

04-06-2007, 11:12 AM

Thats why this CLS rival should come as a 6-series...that would fit a resonable price tag.

The 8-series must be a coupe, and my guess is that it will be a supersports car, to compete with the SLR, and the Z9 or whatever it will be called to compete with the SL.( i know you said bmw wont make any other roadster more than the z4, but it would just fit perfectly, as bmw has no SL-rival).

Mr.Vercetti

04-06-2007, 12:42 PM

^^^^
But there will be a new bigger than the Z4 roadster and it will be a direct rival to the SL.

Sir_GT

04-06-2007, 01:52 PM

http://news.windingroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/bmw-z4-r-kgp-ed.jpg
http://news.windingroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/bmw-z4-f-kgp-ed.jpg

I just wanted to say that I'll be $5 this isn't going to be a new car. Just a facelifted Z4 with a folding hard-top.

ZfrkS62

04-06-2007, 02:10 PM

i'm going to email these to my shop foreman and see what he knows. This isn't making a whole lot of sense :?

EnzoLover

04-06-2007, 02:33 PM

Bernardo

04-06-2007, 05:42 PM

TopGearNL

04-06-2007, 06:12 PM

^^ +2!

ae86_16v

04-13-2007, 02:28 PM

X6 Spy Shots

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/208140/bmw_x6.html

ae86_16v

04-13-2007, 02:30 PM

Bernardo

04-13-2007, 02:34 PM

Yes, I came across those interior shots last week, very interesanting indeed.

Looking at the shape of the back windows/roof line, I think the final product will be something in the shape of the FX45, which is one of the best looking "SUV´s" out there..I really think this car will look good..despite the ugly facelift that BMW hasdone to the X5 I think I'll like this one..

Bernardo

04-13-2007, 02:38 PM

^^ +2!

Yeah, I don't know if it will be an facelifted Z4 because the Z4 already had it's facelift last year. Usually BMW models only have a 7 year life cycle. With the facelift coming after the 4th year.

Although Z said that might be changing with the Life Cycle Impulse Updates.

I couldn´t think of anything else other than a Z4 facelift..it has almost the same size of the Z4 so its too small to be the Z9 or whatever it will be called BMW´s replacement for the Z8..and it doesnt makes sense to make a smaller roadster or another one in the same size of the Z4.. :bah:

ae86_16v

04-13-2007, 03:25 PM

^^ +2!

Yeah, I don't know if it will be an facelifted Z4 because the Z4 already had it's facelift last year. Usually BMW models only have a 7 year life cycle. With the facelift coming after the 4th year.

Although Z said that might be changing with the Life Cycle Impulse Updates.

I couldn´t think of anything else other than a Z4 facelift..it has almost the same size of the Z4 so its too small to be the Z9 or whatever it will be called BMW´s replacement for the Z8..and it doesnt makes sence to make a smaller roadster or another one in the same size of the Z4.. :bah:

Yeah I know. Doesn't make a lot of sense. I remember reading about a Z2 though. To compete with the Miata and such. Don't know how much would that factor though.

ZfrkS62

04-13-2007, 03:43 PM

my shop foreman said he had no clue about those spy shots as everything he has heard has pointed away from another roadster.

I don't see BMW going after the Miata market. The hairdresser market doesn't really fit into BMW's image. Besides, we've got the 1er supposedly hitting showrooms sometime this year. there are already a few mules roaming around California apparently.

1, 3, 5, 6, 7, X5 X3 and Z4 are the current line up. With X6 entering production and rumors of 8er revival floating around (with no real market segment for it, i think it'll be a one time thing like the E31) I really think BMW is full as far as models go.

I figure the 3,5, and 7 are permanent fixtures in their line up, 3 being their bread and butter and 7 being the flagship, they need a middle ground and the 5 has paid off so well in that sense. X5/3 isn't looking to be too good. The E70 i don't think is selling as well as BMW hoped it would, and i have trouble seeing the X3 sticking around for another lifecycle. The 6 is the perfect middle ground if you're a single guy or you and your wife don't have kids and don't need 4 doors but want the creature features of the 5er, and it's been doing pretty well too, so that's in for at least one more lifecycle.

the 1 has yet to be seen and the fate of the roadster project is in limbo as far as i can tell with all the rumors circling around. 2011 SHOULD be the last year for the E85 chassis, with the E86 chassis holding out to 2013 (possibly, that one might go with the E85)

it's going to get exciting around this time next year because the F01 is slated for an 09 MY and the 7's typically debut in the fall. Our German members should hang out in Dingolfing with telefoto lenses pretty soon to watch for the pre-production cars to roll out of the factory.

ae86_16v

04-13-2007, 04:20 PM

^ No surprise that E70 isn't selling that well in the current environment of escalating fuel prices.

With that said, it is a much improved over the original E53 before it.

TopGearNL

04-13-2007, 05:17 PM

There are rumours of a new sportscar convertible/coupe with the V10 engine of the M5/M6.

Maybe thats it?

ZfrkS62

04-13-2007, 06:25 PM

There are rumours of a new sportscar convertible/coupe with the V10 engine of the M5/M6.

Maybe thats it?

where are these rumors coming from?

Bernardo

04-17-2007, 09:29 AM

There are rumours of a new sportscar convertible/coupe with the V10 engine of the M5/M6.

Maybe thats it?

where are these rumors coming from?

I really hope that isn't true.They should use a different engine If they are making an SL65 rival..maybe improve this V10 or use a new V12, i wasn't really happy when they launched the M6 with the same engine as the M5..i was hoping the M6 to be a bit faster than the M5...in the 3.6 - 4.0s to 62 range.

And def. a new engine for the 8er revival!!

dutchmasterflex

04-17-2007, 09:41 AM

I don't see BMW going after the Miata market. The hairdresser market doesn't really fit into BMW's image.

As much as BMW doesnt want to look like that type of car, there are many hair dresser types who drive BMW's.

With the 3-series convertible now a hard top, I'm sure the face lifted Z4 will also get a new top.

Damn that X6 camo is still absolutely ridiculous.

vexor

04-18-2007, 03:48 PM

M3 Cabrio spyshots

http://germancarscene.com/wp-content/uploads/m3-17-04-07.jpg
http://germancarscene.com/wp-content/uploads/m32-17-04-07.jpg
http://germancarscene.com/wp-content/uploads/m33-17-04-07.jpg

chest3r

04-18-2007, 04:24 PM

That camo doesn't make much sense now, but....

dutchmasterflex

04-18-2007, 04:33 PM

Heh yea, I like the fact they covered up the empty BMW badget spot.

I wonder how much heavier the hard top will be..

inso

04-19-2007, 01:05 PM

http://blog.worldcarfans.com/index.cfm/8070419.002/blog-bmw-cs-concept-revealed
new cls competitor from bmw

thepest

04-19-2007, 01:14 PM

What the hell is this..? That's news to me! Some pretty interesting design ideas here!
Thanks inso

bmagni

04-19-2007, 01:22 PM

its just a concep but looks much better than the CLS

chest3r

04-19-2007, 02:14 PM

They were talking about a possible Z9 debut at the Shangai motorshow, and they come up with this :D :o

It doesn't look very good in general, but there are some pretty good details. It looks a mix between the new Maseratti Coupe, AM Rapide with a touch of bimmer's design :roll:

Can't wait for the final car. BMW really needs a car to compete with the CLS 8)

Bernardo

04-19-2007, 02:37 PM

Can't wait for the final car. BMW really needs a car to compete with the CLS 8)

Exactly my thoughts. :roll:

ps: MAN JUST LOOK AT THOSE RIMS!!!!!!!!!!!! F*CK!!!!!!!I guess im in love :love: :love: :love:

Just came across this:
http://www.leftlanenews.com/speculation-bmw-m1-a-spiritual-successor-to-the-original-m3.html

Imo this speculation could be true, but not named as M1, of course, and how awesome this would be... :twisted:

ae86_16v

04-19-2007, 03:41 PM

^ Probably a 1-Series M model. In anycase it should not be name M1.

Remember there's been M models before that wasn't conventionally named like the M540i, X5 4.6iS/4.8iS, 850CSi, M535CSi, and of course the 3.0CSL. All those were definitely M Cars but just didn't have the M naming convention.

But seriously I think the 135i w/ the N54 Bi-Turbo would be more than enough for the 1 Series.

ZfrkS62

04-19-2007, 03:56 PM

the CLS competitor just needs a serious change to the front end and i think it would be badass. Kinda makes me wonder if they dressed up a Z4 in camo gear and sent it out just to fuel the rumors of the Z9 so as to take any attention away from the X6, since no one has any spyshots of it.

But what confuses me, is that Spartanburg is already gearing up to produce this thing, yet no spyshots of it has ever surfaced. So where did they test it? VW's secret facility? Sure as hell wasn't on the 'Ring as they normally do. spy photos would have been flooding the internet from day one :?

R8audi

04-19-2007, 04:48 PM

Almost looks like an aston martin concept from the side profile... Nice design shift, although I agree with ZfrkS62, the front looks a little 'last minute' - maybe even a bit clumsy.

I must say however, that on the whole, I like it... Interior looks great!

Bernardo

04-19-2007, 05:02 PM

To be honest I didn't liked the front end when i first saw it, but now its kinda growing on me..the front design idea is good, but it needs some improvements, but the rest...seriously...i hope it come out EXACTLY as it is in those pics...looks just so awesome, can't wait to sse the final car.

inso

04-20-2007, 07:34 AM

front end looks like dodge demon and rest of the car like AM Rapide

thepest

04-20-2007, 06:50 PM

1 series coupe, front bumber revealed

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=433

Looks great IMO

blue8

05-02-2007, 11:07 AM

A ton of new M3 E90 spyshots in Melbourne Red with minimal camo
http://www.leftlanenews.com/bmw-m3-sedan-future.html

chest3r

05-02-2007, 11:30 AM

1 series coupe, front bumber revealed

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=433

Looks great IMO

Yeah that front bumper looks really cool! 8)

dutchmasterflex

05-02-2007, 12:57 PM

Nice.. 1er coupe will be a great addition to the line up.

But still no sign of the 1-series in the US. Any news on that Zfrk?

ZfrkS62

05-02-2007, 02:13 PM

Nice.. 1er coupe will be a great addition to the line up.

But still no sign of the 1-series in the US. Any news on that Zfrk?

i haven't heard anything about it and that's kind of odd considering the fact that it's getting close to LCI (facelift) time for the E87. Rumors were originally that it was supposed to be '07 along with the diesel, but the diesel is now forecasted to be '08.

M3 is supposed to hit showrooms later this year so i don't see where the 1 would fit in to launch schedule.

ae86_16v

05-04-2007, 04:34 AM

Roundel Mag just posted that we should see it in 2008.

vexor

05-04-2007, 02:46 PM

2010 BMW 5 series

http://www.motorauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/BMW/5/Spy/BMW5MY2011_front_stor.jpg
http://www.motorauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/BMW/5/Spy/BMW5MY2011_bak_stor.jpg

When you think of luxury executive saloons, one car always comes to mind – the BMW 5-series. A class leader since its inception, the 5-series remains a crucial car to BMW. With the current E60 5-series introduced back in 2004, BMW is preparing the sixth-generation model to be revealed in 2010.

It will be a tough job for the designers as well as the thousands of engineers working across BMW’s development centers to renew the current model, a car that already resides at the edge of the technical front line. The new design is critical for BMW’s design manager Adrian van Hooydonk and his team, who have to create an exterior that radiates the brand’s distinctive design values and at the same time feels new and fresh. Using information from various sources, these renderings were compiled by our partners over at Sweden’s Auto Motor and Sport and their illustrator Radovan Varicak, giving us a preview of what the final version will look like.

The front-end will likely feature a more upright kidney grille in order to comply with stronger pedestrian protection laws, while the headlights won’t be stretched out like on the current model. BMW’s characteristic interaction between convex and concave shapes will still be emphasized, and will be clearly indicated in the engine hood’s lines. The rear roofline and C-pillar connects more fluidly to the trunk lid, which is now devoid of the ‘Bangle-butt’ that was so universally derided with the E60 model. Parts of the tail-lights continue onto the trunk lid in order to strengthen the impression of width. We must say, this design is very pleasing and if BMW’s car looks anything like this, we sure it’ll lure back any customers loss to its rivals because of the controversial styling of the former E60.

Follow the jump to see the full car from both the front and rear.

The new 5-series is being built off an entirely new chassis, with double wishbones in the front, like on the new X5. The move is designed to give better control and road grip around corners, according to the chassis engineers. With the aid of the extremely fast Flex-Ray automotive network communications protocol, the adaptive shock absorbers is set to become more effective, as will active steering. BMW will also be updating its iDrive system for the new 5-series, making life a little easier with the addition of yet another pair of programmable buttons.

Those that think the standard 5-series isn’t sporty enough will have to wait for a few more years until the new M5 turns up with its V10 motor and more power than the 507hp offered in today’s edition. The M version will be the only 5-series model offered with a new dual clutch gearbox (similar to VW’s DSG technology). The standard version will instead be fitted with an 8-speed automatic transmission that will take the fight to Lexus. This gearbox is being developed by ZF, which will also manufacture a new four wheel drive system that will feature in the new Five. A new 5-series wouldn’t be complete without the introduction of more electronic driver’s aids, and this time BMW is bringing “Dynamic Performance Control” to the table. The system actively distributes torque between the wheels, depending on how the car acts during a turn. The result is increased security and the ability to handle larger side forces. The new differential will also come in the new 3-series and potentially even the 1-series as an option.

A full-hybrid system, featuring an electric motor in parallel with an engine, is not currently planned for the new 5-series, which instead is likely to feature the same system already used in the 1-series. This “light-hybrid” system consists of an electric starter motor that’s connected to the crankshaft and can function as both a generator and a propulsion system, spinning the engine during initial off the line acceleration. The “light-hybrid” will be available in both diesel and petrol versions and expect a new V8 diesel engine to make its debut in the next-gen model.
The “two-mode” hybrid transmission that was developed by BMW together with General Motors and DaimlerChrysler is mostly aimed at bigger vehicles such as trucks and SUVs. The design features dual motors, and an advanced control system that can allow both engines can be turned on simultaneously, and to regenerate electric power during braking.

This two-mode system, however, is not currently planned for the next generation 5-series, although BMW has not eliminated the possibility that a similar technology can be added towards the end of the model’s life cycle. We’ll have to make do with the “light hybrid” at the moment since BMW feels it has already succeeded in heavily reducing the fuel consumption of their engines. However, it remains to be seen whether or not BMW will be able to reach the EU’s new requirements for average CO2 emissions of 130g/km by 2012.
- MotorAuthority.com

thepest

05-04-2007, 04:58 PM

As a matter of fact, this could be really close to the production model. Nice find m8 thanks.

TopGearNL

05-04-2007, 05:27 PM

New BMW 5 series looks quite interesting, I quite like it.

rave426

05-04-2007, 06:36 PM

That new 5 looks awsome. Much better than the last one.

ZfrkS62

05-04-2007, 11:55 PM

I would expect to see the trunk extended another 6 or 7 inches, should this be close to what they are thinking.

if it's revealed in 2010, it will be a 2011 model year, fitting in with the 7 year span, and the 5 typically starts it's model year in the spring (as the 2008's are already arriving) along with the 7 series.

I do like the headlamps, but i'm going to miss the Bangle Butt. I really thought that what they did with the tail lamps was great. Looked more like it was glaring at you from the back :D

Don't expect it to look so much like the E90 though. The last 2 generations have separated themselves from the 3 a bit more than the E28 and E34 had.

As far as technology, they will eliminate some of the stuff on the F01 7er and trickle the rest down to the 5, and further filter to the 3, as usual.

ae86_16v

05-05-2007, 09:07 AM

2008 BMW 5 SERIES
Product Highlights

General
• Essentially all-new platform introduced in '04; Valvetronic 6-cylinder engines, larger V-8 engine, all-wheel-drive Sedans and Sports Wagon added in '06. 2008 models substantially updated with mild facelift, revised interior and major powertrain changes for 6-cylinder models
• '08 models began production in March '07; early release in May 2007; produced in Germany
• Six models offered; five 6-cylinder models and one V-8 model:
• 528i Sedan, with 3.0-liter N52 inline 6-cylinder engine (230 hp)
• 528xi Sedan, same engine as 528i but with xDrive all-wheel drive
• 535i Sedan, with N54 3.0-liter twin-turbo inline 6-cylinder engine (300 hp)
• 535xi Sedan, same engine as 535i but with xDrive all-wheel drive
• 535xi Sports Wagon, same engine as 535i/xi Sedans, xDrive, 5-door body and many specific Sports Wagon features
• 550i Sedan, with 4.8-liter V-8 (360 hp)
• All models available with 6-speed manual 1 or automatic transmission; 535i and 550i Sedans available with new 6-speed Sport Automatic at extra cost
• Base prices including $775 destination charge (all with a choice of manual or no-cost STEPTRONIC automatic transmission):
528i Sedan – $45,075
528xi Sedan – $47,275
535i Sedan – $50,175
535xi Sedan – $52,375
535xi Sports Wagon – $54,775
550i Sedan – $59,275
• 5 Series U.S. sales in calendar 2006 – 56,756 (Sedans and Sports Wagon; includes M5).

What's new for 2008
All models:
• New model facelift includes revised front fascia, new taillights, new rear air-diffuser (Sedan models) and redesigned interior with upgraded materials. All 6-cylinder Sedans and Sports Wagon receive significant power increases, comparable to 3 Series cars.
• Lane Departure Warning system boosts driver awareness by providing the driver an immediate warning about lane placement
• Active Cruise Control adds "Stop & Go" feature, which permits cruise-control operation even in heavy traffic
• Freshened interior provides an even more elegant look, with additional leather and extended wood trim.
• Ergonomic changes include more convenient window switches, relocated console ashtray and electronic shifter
• In addition, standard iDrive adds six programmable memory buttons, which can be used for anything from radio station presets to navigation destinations or auto-dial telephone numbers
• Premium Sound Package discontinued; Logic7 premium stereo available as stand-alone option. BMW center-installed 6-disc CD changer also available
All 5 Series Sedans
• Reconfigured optical headlight lenses
• New front airdam has reshaped opening with upturned ends
• Relocated amber DOT lenses; headlight area is completely white
• Taillights include new white design with fewer reflectors, plus red lines in the optical lenses
• Reshaped rear bumper, with revised diffuser below the bumper
535xi Sports Wagon
• New front-end treatment includes revised headlights, front fascia and
relocated DOT lenses.
• New rear-end treatment includes reconfigured taillights. Rear diffuser remains as before

Performance & efficiency
All 5 Series models:
• Technically updated STEPTRONIC includes faster shifting and more efficient operation for improved efficiency and quicker acceleration; now a no-cost option for 2008
• New electronic shifter, similar to that featured in the X5 SAV, offers "shift-by-wire" actuation and more ergonomic operation
• SMG no longer available
528i/xi Sedan only
230-hp N52 engine for all 528i/xi models:
• magnesium/aluminum composite construction
• Valvetronic and Double VANOS 2 valve actuation
• includes single-stage intake
• revised tuning provides 230 horsepower @ 6500 rpm, 200 lb-ft. of torque at 2750 rpm, an increase of 15 horsepower and 15 lb-ft. of torque over previous 525i.
• New optional wheels and tires. 528i Sport Package includes 18-inch wheels with performance run-flat tires; 18-inch wheels optional with Sport Package on 528xi
535i/xi Models
300-hp N54 for all 535i/xi models:
• all-aluminum construction w/cast-iron cylinder liners
• twin-turbocharger technology boosts horsepower with virtually no turbo-lag
• Direct fuel injection with piezo electric injectors
• Double VANOS 1 steplessly variable valve timing
• N54 engine rated at 300 horsepower @ 5800 rpm, 300 lb-ft. of torque at 1400-5000 rpm, an increase of 45 horsepower and an astonishing 80 lb-ft. of torque over previous 530i/xi, with a significantly broader torque band.
• Brake discs upgraded to 13.7 front and 13.6 rear, same size as 550i
535i Sedan
• New optional Sport Automatic transmission includes steering-wheel paddle shifters and rpm matching during downshifts, plus a Sport button for quicker, more dynamic shifting (beginning 06/07 production)
• Sport Package includes 18-inch wheel and tire sizes in staggered width; first time on 6-cylinder models

535xi Sedan
• 535xi Sport Package offers the additional option of 18-inch wheel and tire sizes in staggered width; first time on all-wheel-drive models
535xi Sports Wagon
• 300-hp N54 engine, same as 535i/xi Sedans. This engine makes the 535xi Sport Wagon the most powerful wagon BMW has ever offered, including the previous-generation (E39) V-8-powered 540i.
• 535xi Sport Wagon offers 18-inch wheels and tires as an upgrade with the Sport Package
550i Sedan
• New optional Sport Automatic includes steering-wheel paddle shifters and rpm matching during downshifts (beginning 06/07 production), plus a Sport button for quicker, more dynamic shifting
• Sport Package now includes 19-inch, staggered-width wheels with performance tires.

Ergonomics, luxury & convenience
• Thoroughly revised interior
• New standard steering wheel
• Window switches relocated to armrest
• Larger, more refined door pockets
• Smaller, leather-wrapped passenger door handle
• Wood trim now flows from the instrument panel into the door panel, giving a richer, warmer, more integrated look
• iDrive includes six programmable "favorites" buttons, which can be set to frequently used features including destination addresses, phone numbers or radio station presets
• Leather-wrapped center console with:
• New ashtray
• Leather-trimmed iDrive controller w/single menu button
• New center-console storage compartment
• New electronic shifter for STEPTRONIC automatic with ergonomically optimized contour, placement and function
• Radio buttons and temperature controls trimmed in titanium silver

Options
• Active Cruise Control with Stop & Go feature allows operation even in traffic, and can accommodate speeds all the way down to a complete stop, and resume to set speed from 0 mph
• Lane Departure Warning system, provides an immediate but discreet notification when the car crosses into another lane without turn signals
• USB adaptor for iPods or MP3 players, which does not use the CD changer connections
• Premium Sound Package discontinued; Logic7 premium stereo and 6-disc CD-changer available separately
• Sequential Manual Gearbox discontinued

Other highlights
All models
• BMW Ultimate Service, including BMW Maintenance Program, for 4 years/50,000 miles included in base price
• Standard 6-speed manual transmissions have self-adjusting clutch for long clutch life
• Aluminum suspension system for outstanding handling and riding comfort (528xi and 535xi models: aluminum rear suspension only)
• Aluminum front-end structure – contributes to weight reduction and optimum front/rear weight distribution
• Vehicle and Key Memory allows users to personalize many electronic comfort, convenience and security features
• Leather-covered 3-spoke power tilt/telescopic steering wheel with auto tilt-up for entry/exit, multi-function controls
• BMW Ambiance Lighting: LED lights in roof bathe console area in soft orange light, helping occupants find controls at night; enhanced lighting features included in Premium Package
• All models available with Sport Package and Cold Weather Package; all 6-cylinder models also available with Premium Package
• Wide range of stand-alone options includes Active Cruise Control with Stop & Go feature (automatic transmission only), Active Steering, Park Distance Control (standard 550i Sedan), alternate wood interior trim selections, 20-way front Multi-contour seats, split folding rear seats (Sedan models; standard Sports Wagon), heated rear seats, BMW On-board Navigation System, Head-up Display, Lane Departure Warning system, Night Vision, SIRIUS Satellite Radio, HD Radio, rear window- and/or rear door-window sunshades, rear-seat side-impact airbags
• 10-way power front seats standard in all models; 20-way Multi-contour seats in Sport Package or as a stand-alone option; 4-way power front-seat lumbar support with 528i/xi Premium Package, standard in 535i/xi models and 550i
• Memory system for driver's seat, steering wheel and exterior mirrors; 2 positions for each user (captured by Key Memory)
• 1-touch operation of all side windows and moonroof
• Body structure engineered for excellent occupant protection in full and offset frontal impacts, side impacts and rear impacts
• Front-seat safety belts with automatic tensioners and force limiters
• Front and rear Head Protection System (AHPS II) standard in all models
• Front-seat side-impact airbags standard in all models
• Rear-seat side-impact airbags optional in all models
• Battery Safety Terminal – after a severe impact, severs high-current connection between battery and starter cable to help prevent possible short circuit
• BMW Assist Safety Plan with 4 year membership standard equipment

2008 5 Series models
528i Sedan
• 3.0-liter N52 inline 6-cylinder engine
• 230 hp, 200 lb-ft. torque
• Preliminary EPA est. MPG (revised EPA rating standard):
17 mpg city/27 mpg highway (manual transmission) or 18/27 (automatic)
• No-cost choice of 6-speed manual transmission or STEPTRONIC automatic
• Sport Package wheels and tires are 18-in. with run-flat performance tires
535i Sedan – additional features over 528i Sedan
• 3.0-liter N54 twin-turbocharged inline 6-cylinder engine
• 300 hp, 300 lb-ft. torque
• Preliminary EPA est. MPG (revised EPA rating standard):
17/26 (AT); (manual transmission available SOP 09/07)
• Optional Sport Automatic includes steering-wheel paddle shifters and rpm matching during downshifts, plus a Sport button for quicker, more dynamic shifting
• Sport Package wheels and tires are staggered width 18-in. with run-flat performance tires
• Standard Xenon Adaptive headlights
• Standard 4-way power lumbar support on front seats
528xi/535xi Sedans over 528i/535i Sedans
• xDrive – fulltime all-wheel drive system, electronically controlled with variable front/rear torque split and traction control
• Preliminary EPA est. MPG (revised EPA rating standard):
528xi Sedan – 17/25 (MT) or 17/25 (AT)
535xi Sedan – 17/25 (AT); (manual transmission available SOP 09/07)
• Manual transmission of all xi models is heavier-duty Getrag Type H; rear-wheel-drive 528i Sedan has Type I transmission
535xi Sports Wagon over 535xi Sedan
• Most-powerful BMW Sport Wagon ever offered
• 3.0-liter N54 twin-turbocharged inline 6-cylinder engine
• 300 hp, 300 lb-ft. torque
• Preliminary EPA est. MPG (revised EPA rating standard):
16/24 (AT); (manual transmission available SOP 09/07)
• 5-door Wagon body
• Standard roof rails
• Dual-panel Panoramic Moonroof (Sedans have single-panel moonroof)
• Standard split folding rear seats
• Rear-window wiper/washer
• Split tailgate with separately opening rear window (power-operated tailgate with programmable lift height in Premium Package)
• Many special features for versatile cargo-carrying capabilities
550i Sedan over 535i Sedan
• 4.8-liter N62 TU (Technically Updated) V-8:
• 2-stage induction system
• Aluminum construction
• Dual overhead camshafts (DOHC) per cylinder bank, 32 valves
• Valvetronic variable intake-valve lift
• Steplessly variable intake- and exhaust-valve timing
• Direct ignition system with knock control
• 360 hp, 360 lb-ft. torque
• Preliminary EPA est. MPG (revised EPA rating standard):
550i Sedan: 15/22 (MT), 15/23 (AT)
• New optional Sport Automatic includes steering-wheel paddle shifters and rpm matching during downshifts, plus a Sport button for quicker, more dynamic shifting
• Sport Package wheels and tires are staggered width 19-in. with performance tires
• Standard Park Distance Control, leather upholstery, Ambient Light Package, auto-dimming interior and exterior mirrors and BMW Universal Transceiver

bmagni

05-05-2007, 01:57 PM

hope it ends looking like that..

TopGearNL

05-05-2007, 01:59 PM

Interesting features ae86_16v !

ZfrkS62

05-05-2007, 11:36 PM

ae86_16v

05-06-2007, 01:23 AM

As cool as i think it is, i'm glad they did away with the SMG option. Too many people thought it was an automatic and were upset because they could feel the shifts. We have had several complaints about it and there's nothing we can do.

Not surprised, people get it because it is suppose to be the "latest and greatest" and not realizing what it is.

Now in regards to the 335i Automatic, I have heard rave reviews about that.

inso

05-06-2007, 06:51 AM

just little strange that www.bmwusa.com has 525 with that old 215hp 3liter engine and 530 with the new 255hp engine.

But looking at the new pages, there is 528i with little newer 230hp engine, but no 530i at all with 255hp. In Europe there is even newer version of the NA 530i engine with 272hp. In Europe there is also 540i, 525i and 523i, 4.0l 306hp, 3.0 218hp and 2.5l 190hp(and of course many very good diesel engines). It might be Europe is just coming behind and the new turbo versions aren´t released yet. I hope they get 4wd also for 335ci.

Bernardo

05-06-2007, 11:36 AM

Its just me or the rearview mirros have different shapes?I mean...In the first pic you see that the left one is oval and If you have a look at the right one It isnt..plus if you look at the right one again in the sec pic he has a different shape..and we cant see the left one because of the car angle in the pic.

But look at the first pic where we can see both.They dont have the same shape at all.

Z3uS

05-06-2007, 01:36 PM

I like this new 5 a lot... Much better looking than actual one.

ZfrkS62

05-06-2007, 07:39 PM

inso

05-07-2007, 01:33 AM

http://bimmerfest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=81127&d=1153577355

335xi is not yet available, but should be soon.

ZfrkS62

05-07-2007, 02:12 AM

http://bimmerfest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=81127&d=1153577355

335xi is not yet available, but should be soon.

Maybe not in Finland but it is here.

inso

05-09-2007, 07:28 AM

Strange that the production has started at least 6weeks ago, but still no tests about 335xi. Please link it here, if any of you see one.

ZfrkS62

05-09-2007, 04:30 PM

Strange that the production has started at least 6weeks ago, but still no tests about 335xi. Please link it here, if any of you see one.

I'll try and get some pics next time one is in the showroom

Erez

05-09-2007, 04:45 PM

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/3182/p0035196hh9.th.jpg (http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p0035196hh9.jpg) http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8417/p0035209nz8.th.jpg (http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p0035209nz8.jpg)

high res (made it myself :mrgreen: imageshack only gives you 1.5MB so.. :bah: )

thepest

05-09-2007, 06:25 PM

^ Pretty nice quality! thanks

blue8

05-12-2007, 03:23 AM

http://www.egmcartech.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/photo_rendering_bmw_6_series_next_gen.jpg

From eGMCarTech:
The kings of photo renderings, AutoBild, are running this rendering of the next generation BMW 6-Series. According to this rendering, the front headlamps seem to be inspired by the 5-Series, being taken into the body. You can also see larger air intakes which probably means more power for the next generation 6-Series.

AutoBild renderings in the past have been proven to be very close to production models for many cars including their rendition of the 2008 Mercedes-Benz C-Class (which was made two years before the official launch).

pitfield

05-12-2007, 05:25 AM

ZfrkS62

05-13-2007, 02:25 AM

that is the worst hack job i've ever seen. If they really think the 6 is going to look like that, then they need to put the pipe down :?

The E63/4 is imposing. It has a very aggressive stance, and glare. This....looks like it should be dancing on Broadway :roll: I don't think it would intimidate a housefly.

and this is for inso:

http://images.orfay.com/i/photos1/2007/05/12/23/c/5/5/c55280e66868b2babd6adf7d111df9550_large.jpg

Like i said, they've been in showrooms for about 2 months now. Don't know why they aren't over there. I suggest calling your local dealer and asking them if they know anything.

Sir_GT

05-13-2007, 04:47 AM

chest3r

05-13-2007, 06:12 PM

^^ Yeah it looks great !! :o :o

But it's way too small for a 5 series, it looks more like a 3 series. :wink:

Anyway, nice photoshop! 8)

Erez

05-13-2007, 07:00 PM

..I like the rear.. the front.. not so much.. the headlights needs a little more rounding.. but looks pretty good..

Sir_GT

05-14-2007, 01:12 AM

..I like the rear.. the front.. not so much.. the headlights needs a little more rounding.. but looks pretty good..

The description said that the front would be a bit more squared off due to pedestrian safety requirements. So from a side profile, it should have a similar front to an Audi (flatter, squarer).

ZfrkS62

05-14-2007, 02:55 AM

I'm not going to put any stock in this rendering. The next 5 is still 4 years away, whereas the next 7 is only a year and a half away, yet where's that rendering?

If they wanted to render a 5, why didn't they base it off the E60?

Erez

05-15-2007, 07:51 AM

I love the current 7er.. I wounder what they have in plan.. :hmm:

ZfrkS62

05-15-2007, 09:39 PM

I love the current 7er.. I wounder what they have in plan.. :hmm:

i dunno, but if there's going to be a change to the power plant at any point in the production series, there should be test mules out and about Germany right now.

They're usually pretty secretive about the 7 aren't they? Has anyone ever seen any spy shots of previous models? I can't recall seeing any.

Erez

05-16-2007, 03:29 PM

yeah! its like the 7er is the biggest secret.. you never have real idea about what their gonna do..
..I have faith tho, I know I'll probably love it too ;)

blue8

05-28-2007, 11:02 AM

Erez, I thought I was the only one who loved the E65 7!
This is old news... but it's about the next-gen 7-series anyway:

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_417/car_photo_208565_5.jpg
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_417/car_photo_208564_5.jpg
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_417/car_photo_208568_5.jpg
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_417/car_photo_208567_5.jpg
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_417/car_photo_208563_5.jpg
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/images/article_images/BMW7-seriesmule_3_560px.jpg

Renderings:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_417/car_photo_208566_5.jpg
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/258/09bmw7seriescu1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7826/09bmw7seriesrearlf6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
^Nice to see the 7-series with quad exhausts

The new 7-series will be a ground-breaking model, for its design, chassis and powertrain. It's appropriate that the new car's codename begins with an F, with BMW having exhausted its series of 'E' designations, introduced in 1968. The F01 will look more sleek and sporty than today's battleship, with its boot on which you could land a Harrier.

Check out the prototype's proportions. The roofline is faster, the glasshouse more coupe-like and the overall look more compact and dynamic. Most of the details remain closely guarded, but the wraparound nature of the lamps is clearly visible. Sources say the boot is better integrated (although padding disguises this) and the sheet metal is less hyperactive. Naturally, the front end is classic BMW, with a big kidney grille and twin bulbs. The headlamp graphic is said to be all-new.

Project F01 will introduce a new modular chassis, which will donate parts to the next 5-series, 6-series and even a baby Rolls-Royce. BMW is packing the rear-drive chassis with gadgets. Today's self-levelling rear suspension is ditched for a more sophisticated four-wheel air suspension, which should be standard. Dubbed DAS for Dynamic Air Suspension, the new set-up is claimed to combine unrivalled ride comfort with best-in-class dynamics, if you specify Dynamic Drive (adjustable anti-roll bars). That should top Mercedes, which doesn't offer Airmatic together with its ABC (Active Body Control) system. Other options will include Active Steering (variable rate) and four-wheel drive (xDrive).

Other available items should include night vision, an M5-style head-up display, active cruise control, front and rear cameras acting as real-time parking aids, soft-close doors, a lane departure warning device and an eye movement monitor.

There will again be a long-wheelbase 7-series, codenamed F02. BMW has pulled back from a plan to offer two different body styles: emphatically sporty for the standard-wheelbase car and ostentatiously luxurious for the lwb version. So the F02 simply features a 140mm chunk of extra sheet metal to lengthen the wheelbase and to extend the rear doors. Nose and tail remain unchanged however, and so does the height of the roofline which appears to be about on par with today's car's.

The F01 7-series will be available with petrol-electric hybrid propulsion, with the fruits of the DaimlerChrysler/GM/BMW alliance due to come to fruition around the time of the 7-series' introduction. The conventional powertrains will be evolutions of the current six-, eight- and twelve-cylinder units. The petrol versions will go direct-injection with a fuel economy bias for Europe and a performance bias for the rest of the world. The diesels get even more power and torque along with an increasingly expensive desmogging equipment.

Inside, the 2001 revolution will also be over-turned. The gearshifter returns from the steering column to the transmission tunnel, and it will have the beautiful 'swan neck' design introduced on the X5 Mk2. Like in the M5/M6, there are two different shift levels to choose from: automatic (to the right) and manual (to the left). You can self shift via wheel mounted buttons.

Positioned next to the gear stick are the switches which activate DSC, the sport mode and the electronic parking brake. Again in a prominent position sits the even taller iDrive controller, which reportedly feels and acts in a more intuitive fashion. BMW owners will also be familiar with the integrated in-dash colour monitor, the stacked music and AC controls and the two large round instruments.

Materials naturally mix wood, leather and metal, and the design is influenced by fancy furniture. Innovations worth mentioning include fully adjustable pro-active seats, a multi-mood cabin lighting and a draught-free so-called 'Airolution' air-con system, courtesy of the specialist supplier Behr.

-- It has been confirmed that the next-generation 7-series won't have the same platform as the upcoming Baby Rolls-Royce, as previously reported. Here's a rendering anyway which looks :shock:

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/images/article_images/RollsNGScgi_1_560px.jpg

blue8

05-28-2007, 11:07 AM

From Motor Authority:
BMW prides itself on having some of the most dynamic and involving vehicles on the market today, but its fleet still lacks a genuine sports car or a true successor for the original M1. Some may argue that BMW already offers the 507hp V10-powered M6 Coupe, but to the purists the M6 is an overweight four-seater GT that compromises performance for comfort.

Instead, BMW is rumored to be working on a new super-sports car to rival Audi’s R8 and Porsche’s 911 with its release scheduled for the end of the decade. According to Germany’s Autozeitung.de, development work is being handled strictly by BMW’s M division with the new model likely to be named the M10. The source also reports that BMW has ruled out building a mid-engined car and instead will go with a front-engine, rear-drive layout.

Powering the M10 will most likely by an upgraded version of the M5/M6 5.0L V10, with power boosted to around the 550hp level, however, a turbocharged version of the 4.0L V8 destined for the new M3 has also been considered.

The key goal of the M10 project is to save weight. Extensive use of carbon-fiber, magnesium and aluminum are to be employed to ensure overall weight is kept below 1,400kg. The styling for the M10 is said to be influenced heavily by the Concept CS, which was displayed recently in Shanghai. The most notable features that should carry over include the oversized kidney grilles, aggressive front bumper and the low roofline.

-- I think that the Concept CS is a little too extreme but a genuine sports car from BMW sounds awesome! I also want a supercar from them to thrash the SLR and show McLaren what they're missing out on :P

chest3r

05-28-2007, 11:22 AM

M10 :o :o That's excelent news !! :D

blue8

05-28-2007, 12:21 PM

More news!
The F3 is given the greenlight. News on the F3 is posted in the link below. Just to clarify, it is classified as a crossover (like an upmarket Toyota Rav-4 or Honda CRV)and not a sportvan.
http://www.motorworld.net/forum/showthread.php?t=47491

ZfrkS62

05-28-2007, 03:29 PM

the F3 was confirmed quite awhile ago. BMW has already said it is going to be produced in the Spartanburg, SC plant, along with the Z4 and X5. PLant output is expected to top 200,000 vehicle per year. They are also considering an X3 successor which would also be built at Spartanburg.

So far, that's 3 models on one production line.

Also take into account that the plant is run off of landfill Methane, piped in directly from a nearby landfill. BMW has been pushing the innovation envelope in all aspects.

Subaru has recently announced that their US plant produces no landfill waste. So I'm kind of wondering if car makers have found a loophole in all of this "go green" kick. :bah:

Bernardo

05-29-2007, 02:45 PM

To be honest...the F3 wasn't the most necessary project to come to life right now..BMW really need something to go against the CLS, SL, and SLR..they dont really need something to compete with the R-Klass since It doesnt really have a spot in the market to fill and isnt so well profitable.

And also those spots taken by the CLS , SL and SLR are very profitable, so way more important to BMW to have something against it.

The F3 feels unnecessary to me right now.

ZfrkS62

05-29-2007, 02:54 PM

^

BMW has already showcased the CS Concept which theoretically will go head to head with the CLS. As to when it will be produced is unknown, but a prototype chassis has been shown at Shanghai. It is unlikely they will scrap the project now.

blue8

05-29-2007, 03:06 PM

ZfrkS62

05-29-2007, 05:52 PM

^ Yup the CS Concept will be the basis for the CLS-fighting 8-series while reports that an upcoming Z9 will go head-to-head with the SL. The SLR is profitable? :P At least the F3 won't follow the lonely and unprofitable path carved by the R-Class.

What have i said about the Z9 in this thread? It's most likely NOT happening.

And from what the article mentioned, the CLS fighter and the 8 series revival are two separate cars.

ZfrkS62

05-29-2007, 06:52 PM

The X6 and the possible successor for the X3 are completely different. I expect the X6 to be a midget version of the X5, but just as long.

The 8 series, I dunno. I would love to see another Arrow Nosed brute (but this time with a better power to weight ratio) compared to the shark nosed E63, especially if it's strictly a hardtop coupe. Granted the V12 would be bad ass in it, but i would want a ///M version of it for the 860Csi :twisted:

Svensson

05-30-2007, 08:16 AM

M3 to get DSG-style manual gearbox

The new BMW M3 will get a seven-speed double-clutch gearbox as an alternative to the standard six-speed manual.

Official confirmation of the long-rumoured transmission came via a document issued to BMW dealers confirming the car’s specification.

The new gearbox, called M DCT, will be available from March 2008. Made by BMW’s long-standing transmission partner Getrag, it will provide rapid and nearly imperceptible shifts.

The speed of a double-clutch transmission is likely to improve the M3’s 4.8sec 0-62mph time by a couple of tenths of a second. The system should offer significantly smoother shifts than BMW’s SMG transmission in the M5 and M6.

The transmission will be controlled by a combination of a shift lever, likely to be similar to the M5 and X5’s joystick control, and steering wheel paddles.

The 'box has been exclusively developed for BMW, and different versions are destined for the

3-series and the 5-series.

Other options for the M3 (on sale in September) include 19in alloy wheels and electronic damper control. The carbonfibre roof will be standard.

From AutoCar Magazine (http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/225812/)

chest3r

05-30-2007, 01:27 PM

^^ Good news !! I'm pretty sure this gearbox will make the M3 a bit faster.

I already saw an M3 with 19" wheels and they were cool. I don't know if they're the same. Anyway, it will look way better than with the stock 18" ones 8)

ZfrkS62

05-30-2007, 01:36 PM

i'm really curious as to how this system is going to work. Other manufacturers have been playing with similar systems and it seems to be working well for them, so hopefully BMW has this nailed down as well :D

Bernardo

05-30-2007, 01:39 PM

About time to BMW have their "DSG".Can't wait to see it in action in the M3 and see how good it is compared to the others double-clutch gearboxes.

And btw...does this gear box will replace the SMG?Because whats the point to keeping the SMG if you have the DSG?

Svensson

05-30-2007, 01:45 PM

Yeah, nice to see that BMW is also going the DSG-way, but I'd definately prefer a manual 6 speed myself.

The feeling of involvement with the car and the joy of nailing a perfectly executed heel&toe downshift just right, is far more important to me than being a few tenths quicker with the flappity-flippers. Also, I don't know exactly what this new Getrag box will be like, but EVO mag said that the DSG box tends to "ride the clutch" way too much, which would lead to wearing it out a lot faster than a normal clutch.

ZfrkS62

05-30-2007, 01:52 PM

Svensson

05-30-2007, 02:14 PM

^ Hmm I'm surprised to read that "ZfrkS62". But I still prefer the driver involvement of a manual box.

ZfrkS62

05-30-2007, 02:17 PM

yeah, for city driving, give me a 6 spd, but for a track rat, give me the DSG/SMG

blue8

06-01-2007, 12:53 PM

From Motor Authority:
Updates at BMW, more powerful M5 and new 1-series
BMW is well on its way to becoming a full-line manufacturer with plans to launch several all new models in niches not normally reserved for the luxury marques. We’ve previously reported about a new 3-series based crossover and a possible M10 super-sports car, but we now have information about several new models due before the end of the year.

Just around the corner are the new coupe and convertible versions of the entry-level 1-series, with both cars expected to get more powerful engines than the current hatch. A new 123d model will appear with the superb 204hp 400Nm 2.0L diesel, as well as a new 125i petrol version.

BMW’s 286hp 580Nm straight-six diesel engine will appear in a new X5 3.0sd and will also end up in the facelifted 6-series coupe due at September’s Frankfurt Auto Show. After that, we can expect to see the arrival of the all-new E71 X6 crossover.

Finally, the M5 super-sedan will come in for some upgrades. The performance saloon will get several additions to the interior, including a new heads-up-display system, as well as an upgrade to its 5.0L V10 motor to prepare it for Audi’s upcoming RS6. Word on the street is that it’ll produce around 520 to 530hp, but there’s no mention when the updated model will be released.

-- Great to hear that the M5 will receive a much-needed power upgrade!! They must have finally felt threatened :P

X5 M Sport Package:
http://www.netcarshow.com/bmw/2008-x5_m-package/

Bernardo

06-01-2007, 01:03 PM

-FROM: Leftlanenews.com

BMW CEO: Production likely for CS concept

06/01/07, 10:35am, EDT

BMW will probably build a production car based closely on the CS Concept, North American CEO Tom Purves told Automotive News last week. The statement contradicts a recent report by Germany's Auto Bild indicating the car would probably not see production.

"Our dealers, having seen the photos, are very excited," Purves said. "They love it. […] If media and dealers like it, there's a good chance the customers will."

The CS is "not a stretch or modified anything," he said, suggesting the car is both realistic and should appeal to mainstream upper luxury buyers. Purves says there have been very few cases of BMW not following a concept car with a production model.

If produced, the CS would likely be badged as an 8-Series, according to various reports.

Good to hear that It will be "based closely on the CS Concept ".I just dont know about It to be badged as a 8-series.I was expecting something else, but I knew It was coming.

Anyways, good news..for me at least!

On blue's post above:

Good to hear also about the M5 upgrade..(and probably the same for M6?)but 530hp seems too low to compare with the 571 or something from the new RS6.

BMW has never disappointed me in performance wise, so I guess I'll just wait and see.

:P

thepest

06-01-2007, 02:28 PM

jakaracman

06-01-2007, 04:42 PM

yeah, for city driving, give me a 6 spd, but for a track rat, give me the DSG/SMG
And exactly opposite for me ...

pitfield

06-01-2007, 08:07 PM

Silly billy, everytime I drive it's an involvement with me and the car, traffic or not, I can be bothered to press the clutch, it's not the difficult.

HeilSvenska

06-02-2007, 01:18 AM

X5 M Sport... There's something very disturbing about this.

blue8

06-04-2007, 11:08 AM

More on the M10 (from eGMCarTech):
http://www.egmcartech.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/bmw_z_10_concept_idea_autoblog_it.jpg
http://www.egmcartech.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/bmw_z_10_concept_idea_autoblog_it_2.jpg
According to a report last week, we all know that BMW is hard at work developing an Audi R8 competitor. While everyone is singing praises of the Audi R8 which, Jeremy Clarkson, says is better than its Lamborghini Gallardo brother, we’re wondering what BMW will come up with?

Well the folks over at autoblog.it are showing some Z10 concept images from an unknown source. The images are supposed to be an “idea” of what the Audi R8 fighter may look like.

The front-engine car is under development at BMW’s M headquarters and according to AutoZeitung, the car is expected to be called M10. We highly doubt it will be called the ‘M10′ or ‘Z10.’ BMW may just stick with the ‘Z9′ as reported before.

The high-end BMW sports car is expected to be powered by a modified version of the V10 engine found in the M5 and M6 which will develop 550 horsepower.

While the car is expected to be the size of the 6-Series, it will be much lighter in order to increase performance and aerodynamics. BMW hopes to keep the weight below 1,400 kg with the use of carbon fiber, aluminum and magnesium.

The car is expected to be priced way below the $130,000 price tag of the Z8, which we expect will be in the ballpark of Audi R8’s $109,000 to $118,000.

Bernardo

06-04-2007, 11:16 AM

Those renderings look completely awesome.

MIHALS

06-04-2007, 12:26 PM

Those renderings look completely awesome.

and completely CGT :mrgreen:

but hey, if that will get to the production, then holly molly, I want one :drool:

pitfield

06-04-2007, 12:36 PM

wicked!! Proper gears thought please.

ZfrkS62

06-04-2007, 01:15 PM

^ they won't do it on this one if this report is accurate. if they want to fight the R8 it's going to have to be faster in all aspects, including shifting.

Anyone else see F430 between the front and rear bumpers? I think i'd like it a lot better if it were a hardtop though.

Bernardo

06-04-2007, 01:27 PM

/\ Agreed.Alot of F430 aspects on it, but mostly from the windshield shape to the wind deflectorbehind the seats, which are almost the same as in the ferrari.

Still, one of the best renderings for BMW's I've seen in quite a long time.I would probably make kids to sell them to buy this one if it comes to production :D

blue8

06-04-2007, 01:54 PM

The F430 Spider was used as a base image for the rendering. The article mentions that the car would be similar in size as the 6-series but the R8 is much shorter than that. But it does look really cool!!

dutchmasterflex

06-04-2007, 02:03 PM

Yeah I was goign to say that looks like a F430 base.

I hope BMW looks to their classic roadsters as inspiration for the design.

blue8

06-05-2007, 10:38 AM

Almost completely free of disguising

Finally, these shots show the new Coupe of the BMW 1-Series almost completely free of disguising. Engine options for the stylish 1-series Coupe have yet to be confirmed, but BMW officials have said they do not plan to offer a four-cylinder engine in America – although we believe they will be available in European markets. But we are expecting a version of the magnesium/aluminium 3.0-liter six-cylinder that is currently found in the 130i, as well as the 3- and 5-series, Z4 Coupe and Roadster, and X3 and X5. There is also a strong possibility the 3.0-liter turbo-charged six from the 335i coupe and sedan could find its way into an M version of the 1-series Coupe. Among driving enthusiasts, there is strong sentiment that the 3-series Coupe has grown too large and luxurious to be a true sports coupe. Many of them long for a smaller, simpler car with the driving dynamics BMW has become known for. The 1-series Coupe could possibly deliver on that desire, all the while holding its head high as a true BMW
Spyshots:
http://images7.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos/6070605.001/6070605.001.mini5L.jpg
http://images7.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos/6070605.001/6070605.001.mini3L.jpg
http://images7.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos/6070605.001/6070605.001.mini1L.jpg
http://images7.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos/6070605.001/6070605.001.mini2L.jpg
http://images7.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos/6070605.001/6070605.001.mini6L.jpg
http://images7.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos/6070605.001/6070605.001.mini4L.jpg
http://images7.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos/6070605.001/6070605.001.mini7L.jpg

Still looks weird to me...

Svensson

06-05-2007, 10:48 AM

I agree "blue8", it looks very weird :?

chest3r

06-05-2007, 05:46 PM

It doesn't look as good as I was expecting :?

It's a very small coupe.... it looks weird!! I'm not sure this will sell much :roll:

ZfrkS62

06-05-2007, 06:20 PM

why bother hiding the emblem? the kidney grilles give it away :?

I wonder if it's the chase car for the 335 on the tow truck in front of it :lol:

Bernardo

06-05-2007, 09:11 PM

/\ true.

blue8

06-06-2007, 07:56 AM

2012 BMW 3-Series Renderings:

Five years is a long, long time in automotive terms. Porsche could own the VW Group, Ford might have formed an alliance with GM & Chrysler to compete against Pinky Yiang-Yiang and Subaru could have filed a law suite against the 2011 Impreza's desginer... And with that in mind, we present to you Automotorundsport’s newly published CGI’s of the future 3-Series. Based on AMS’s previous 3-Series sedan rendering, the Coupe, Cabrio and the intriguing, to be honest, Break versions are all inspired from BMW’s 4door GT concept, the CS which was unveiled at the Shanghai Show earlier this year. –Continued after the jump

http://bp3.blogger.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/RmZ78aR6QWI/AAAAAAAALus/tuvJ5Dziq40/s400/CSP_BMW12_300.jpghttp://bp0.blogger.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/RmZ78qR6QXI/AAAAAAAALu0/T2HUClSXht8/s400/CSP_BMW12_301.jpg
http://bp1.blogger.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/RmZ786R6QYI/AAAAAAAALu8/mE79RNb0PdI/s400/CSP_BMW12_302.jpghttp://bp3.blogger.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/RmZ79aR6QaI/AAAAAAAALvM/L0fKDqNweRw/s400/CSP_BMW12_304.jpg
^The shooting brake version is the most interesting one!! BMW should build this car :twisted:

thepest

06-06-2007, 08:54 AM

Interesting, but most of the details don't really look BMW-ish.

Thanks though nice CGs

ZfrkS62

06-06-2007, 01:30 PM

was that really necessary? we haven't even gotten the M3 yet for cryin out loud. Why don't they just make a couple CGI's of the 2016 7 series wile they're at it? :?

Just_me

06-10-2007, 06:46 AM

A Jerez black M3 V8 Convertible is in Capetown for a photoshoot for BMW.

ae86_16v

06-10-2007, 07:12 AM

was that really necessary? we haven't even gotten the M3 yet for cryin out loud. Why don't they just make a couple CGI's of the 2016 7 series wile they're at it? :?

Haha. . . yup, haven't you seen the F38 already? :lol:

Bernardo

06-10-2007, 10:29 AM

interior spypic of the 09 7-series:

http://media.autobild.de/bild/E/ccbea4bfe9294a7feaf1afcfe1ab47ae_1.jpg

gucom

06-10-2007, 10:34 AM

hmmm especially the current 3series coupe is a beautiful car imo, very classy lines... this is too much imo, although i even got used to the 5- and 7 series' looks so who knows what would happen if they do produce a 3 series looking like this...

blue8

06-13-2007, 01:03 PM

Spyshots from 2addicts.com
http://www.egmcartech.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/spy_shots_bmw_1_series_in_red.jpg
http://www.egmcartech.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/spy_shots_bmw_1_series_in_red_1.jpg
^Nice color but it still doesn't compensate for its oddness...

Svensson

06-13-2007, 08:25 PM

^ Me too, this just looks weird. Kinda reminds me of a Dacia Logan. Which is a bad thing btw... :?

http://eur.i1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/util/anysize/450,http:%2F%2Feur.news1.yimg.com%2Feur.yimg.com%2 Fxp%2Fautowereld%2F20061012%2F02%2F1427823194-licht-gefacelifte-dacia-logan.jpg

ZfrkS62

06-13-2007, 11:12 PM

Spyshots from 2addicts.com
http://www.egmcartech.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/spy_shots_bmw_1_series_in_red.jpg

the bald guy in the racing suit....is that Stuck?

that's got to be an older pic though since the car was already debuted in Geneva. Why would they continue to camouflage it?

chest3r

06-13-2007, 11:16 PM

What are you talking about ?!?! :shock: We're in 2007, not 2008. Do you come from the future or something ?!

This will be 1 series coupe !! :wink:

DeMoN

06-14-2007, 12:14 AM

dont like where bmw is heading once again... I guess it has becomed one of those brands you get used to rather than love.

ZfrkS62

06-14-2007, 01:22 AM

What are you talking about ?!?! :shock: We're in 2007, not 2008. Do you come from the future or something ?!

This will be 1 series coupe !! :wink:

HAHAHA!!!! Whoops :oops:

I've been setting tile in my parents' house the last 2 days and my mind is shot :lol:

RC45

06-14-2007, 01:36 AM

Looks hideous. No matter how you look at it, it's plain ugly.

No more ugly than the original 2002 ;)

It actually has some unique style to it.. it is shedding the originl Bangleness some of us have grown to hate ;)

chest3r

06-14-2007, 05:31 AM

Looks hideous. No matter how you look at it, it's plain ugly.

No more ugly than the original 2002 ;)

I'd never thought about the 2002. This 1 series coupe is exactly like it. And it will have a twin turbo version, just like the 2002 tti ( I guess that's the name). I think this will make it a cool car :P :lol:

chest3r

06-14-2007, 09:47 AM

^^ I thought the 2002 tti was a twin turbo because of the name :oops:

R.P. Veyron

06-14-2007, 10:21 AM

Big Machine.. :lol: :lol:

ZfrkS62

06-15-2007, 12:53 AM

^^ I thought the 2002 tti was a twin turbo because of the name :oops:

it was tii, not tti.

The turbo version was never officially sold in the US. All examples of those are gray market cars which were privately imported and legalized.

Kaz

06-15-2007, 09:17 AM

Upcoming 7 series in Dubai

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/5433/bmwcls4tm7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4898/bmscls3vc6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8788/bmwclseo2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6349/bmwcls2qz0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

2008 M5 tailight change

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9763/attachmentxu6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2951/attachmentcg2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

TopGearNL

06-15-2007, 09:24 AM

The headlights look like they came straight off the BMW 5 series :?

silentm

06-15-2007, 10:41 AM

those rear lights look really cool.

thepest

06-15-2007, 12:01 PM

Interesting camos, 10x

The new 5 series taillights are very cool nad classy.

blue8

06-15-2007, 12:53 PM

The upcoming 7-series looks so sexy (for a big car) with that sleek roofline!

Just like the red car, this is speculated to be the 135i M Sport Package (?)
http://bp1.blogger.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/RnKxe6R6WJI/AAAAAAAAMdI/lbDwCkyCEQ8/s400/1coupe_545.jpghttp://bp1.blogger.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/RnKxe6R6WKI/AAAAAAAAMdQ/Bgf3RrVFmg4/s400/1coupe_546.jpg
http://bp2.blogger.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/RnKxfKR6WLI/AAAAAAAAMdY/xIz7B6IZiJY/s400/1coupe_547.jpghttp://bp2.blogger.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/RnKxfKR6WMI/AAAAAAAAMdg/gzQAHTP7K2s/s400/1coupe_548.jpg

Besides the 2008 BMW M3, the BMW 1-Series Coupe for the US is probably the most scooped car in recent months. Well as we all get ready for the baby BMW, BMW is taking the car out on Nurburgring for, what we hope, one last run.

According to CarMagazine the BMW 1-Series Coupe is set to be revealed on July 1st, which is only 2 weeks away. While the BMW 1-Series Coupe want make it to our roads until early 2008, it will be nice to see the finish products. CarMagazine also caught the most revealing shots of the car on its way to Nurburgring.

As BMW, gets closer to the finished product, we’re starting to cope with the idea that the hatchback variant won’t make it to the US.

The BMW 1-Series Coupe will make its official debut at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November to mark the importance of the North American Market. The coupe will be followed by a cabriolet version few months after its launch. Not to mention BMW is also considering a M1 variant as well.

TopGearNL

06-15-2007, 02:02 PM

1 series coupe looks interesting, can't wait for the 1-series coupe 3.0 M 8)

dutchmasterflex

06-15-2007, 02:12 PM

Bernardo

06-15-2007, 03:15 PM

Looks VERY good.

Bmw is really having the CS concept as a base design for their future cars..this new 7-series will be the 1st one I guess.

TopGearNL

06-15-2007, 04:19 PM

Will there also be a 7-series model with the V10 engine?

ZfrkS62

06-15-2007, 11:19 PM

Haha, looks like they are taking design cues from Lexus with those tail pipes.

New 5-series tail lights look awesome.

I wonder if "arab highway drifting" is on the list of tests for the new 7-series in Dubai :lol:

The 7 has been in design for a lot longer than the Lexus has, i promise you. All the camo on that thing really does it's job. Very difficult to tell what it is going to look like. It's less than a year away now.

ae86_16v

06-17-2007, 05:44 PM

E90 M3 Pics @ N-Ring:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67388

blue8

06-18-2007, 03:36 AM

^ Awesome spyshots! I wonder how anyone was able to get that close to the car and take pics. A BMW insider?

gangajas

06-18-2007, 03:52 AM

M3 E92 Nurburgring official time:

http://i12.tinypic.com/4zjkbba.jpg

Is it fast enough?

blue8

06-18-2007, 04:12 AM

^
Nordschleife lap right? Here's an idea of where it stands. More here: http://fastestlaps.com/track2.html
E46 CSL 7:50
M3 E46 8:22

It's very hard to compare lap times especially with the different variables involved but that seems quick enough.

47. BMW M6 8:09
48. Lamborghini Diablo 8:09
49. Ferrari 360 Modena 8:09
50. Audi RS4 8:09
51. Porsche 993 GT2 8:09.3
52. Donkervoort D8 180R 8:10
53. Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX 8:11
54. Porsche Cayman S 8:11
55. Porsche 993 Turbo (3.6) 8:12
56. Mercedes SL 55 AMG 8:12
57. Mercedes SL65 AMG 8:12:90
58. Dodge Viper SRT-10 8:13
59. Lotus Esprit V8 8:13
60. BMW M5 8:13

acmarttin

06-18-2007, 04:24 AM

So I take it that BMW M5 on that list is the new one right?

ae86_16v

06-18-2007, 06:39 AM

So 10 secs better than the E46. . . that doesn't seem that much faster over a 8 min course.

thepest

06-18-2007, 07:18 AM

There is a pretty long discussion over this one. Those are the official numbers, and the one listed by blue8 are the best ones from many, with non stock tyres (mostly).

We'll see a better time.

TopGearNL

06-18-2007, 09:14 AM

That CSL better be totally hardcore since that will have to jump under the 8 Minute NR Laptime..

ZfrkS62

06-18-2007, 02:33 PM

just given those numbers, i would say this car is in some very good company. The fact alone that it's hanging with the Porkers should be proof enough of it's capabilities. and only 3 seconds down on the M6...i likey :D

TopGearNL

06-18-2007, 02:40 PM

^^Yeah that is true actually, and that with 2 cylinders less 8)

dutchmasterflex

06-18-2007, 03:01 PM

They should have at least pushed the driver to go faster than the RS4 ;)

Let's see what M can do with a CSL version of the new 3er.

sami02ro

06-18-2007, 03:10 PM

topspeed.com/cars/car-news/bmw-m3-convertible-and-6-series-faceliftspy-shots-ar37925.html

i also see this today... looks amaizing