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altedza · 02-16-2004, 05:51 PM

Personally, I don't like it much. It's not necessarily the language barrier... I can understand a bit (not enough to substantiate 3 years of study). I just don't like the layout and format. Compared to Fifth Gear and Top Gear, which encompass style, cost, and performance into a judgement combined with flavor and humor, Best Motoring is absolutely nothing. Although it may not be fair to compare the 3, since Best Motoring probably isn't the Japanese show meant for this idea, I still find it considerably uninteresting and overly subjective. There's too large of margin of error and variability. What's everyone else's take?

TT · 02-16-2004, 05:54 PM

I absolutely love BM videos, I have whole GBs of them

it's completely different from TG or 5th, but you are sure you will see cars trashed on track

There's marge of error ok, and the race aren't always fair, but what about TG and 5th gear? Everything it's up to Jeremy, Richard, James, Tiff or Vicki's taste

VERY subkective too

yg60m · 02-16-2004, 05:57 PM

Don't agree at all !! :x
I love this program. Hard to compare to 5th Gear ot Top Gear because it's not in the same league. Where did you see a battle between an F40 an F50, a Lambo Diablo SV, a Porsche GT3, GT3, Turbo ? And so much other battles.
It's the only program that test the cars on 1/4 mile, 1000 m standing start.
They did it for the McLaren F1 for example.
Only this test is enough to make me love them

altedza · 02-16-2004, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by TT

I absolutely love BM videos, I have whole GBs of them

it's completely different from TG or 5th, but you are sure you will see cars trashed on track

There's marge of error ok, and the race aren't always fair, but what about TG and 5th gear? Everything it's up to Jeremy, Richard, James, Tiff or Vicki's taste

VERY subkective too

Yeah, I agree. However, I like Top Gear not necessarily for objective reviews, but more for.... well... everything! It shows me plenty of cars that I never even hear of in the states. They're presented with thought... style.... beauty. It's fantastic. They put a lot of effort into presentation. I doubt I'll ever have to choose between a Lamborghinis, TVRs, Ferraris, etc so it doesn't really matter much. I just like being educated and entertained. BM is just too plain. I'm impressed that they show the driving style (pedal cam) but it just doesn't mean too much. I guess it's because I'm not particularly fond of the Japanese style. I don't mind their cars too much though, seeing as how I drive one.

TT · 02-16-2004, 06:02 PM

Ah well sure if I'd have to choose just one it would be TG nonetheless

buy you asked if we like BM and well, I adore

altedza · 02-16-2004, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by yg60m

Don't agree at all !! :x
I love this program. Hard to compare to 5th Gear ot Top Gear because it's not in the same league. Where did you see a battle between an F40 an F50, a Lambo Diablo SV, a Porsche GT3, GT3, Turbo ? And so much other battles.
It's the only program that test the cars on 1/4 mile, 1000 m standing start.
They did it for the McLaren F1 for example.
Only this test is enough to make me love them

Yeah, I know they're not in the "same league", that's why I said "Although it may not be fair to compare the 3...". My problem with those supercar battles is that they're not presented in any beauty whatsoever. Once again, how often will we ever have a choice between those cars anyway? Straight line isn't overly impressive either. I know they compare track, but those can have their own issues with multiple cars. Though the Stig may be biased, so can BM's results.

altedza · 02-16-2004, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by TT

Ah well sure if I'd have to choose just one it would be TG nonetheless

buy you asked if we like BM and well, I adore

Do you know if they ever comment on anything beyond the racing and the quarters? I guess I haven't really seen a full on episode.. do they ever go beyond and comment on cost, style, history, etc? I suppose I can somewhat appreciate BM, but in a comparison it's a 9.3 for Top Gear, a 7.8 for Fifth Gear, and a 5.2 for Best Motoring.

TT · 02-16-2004, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by altedza

Originally Posted by TT

Ah well sure if I'd have to choose just one it would be TG nonetheless

buy you asked if we like BM and well, I adore

Do you know if they ever comment on anything beyond the racing and the quarters? I guess I haven't really seen a full on episode.. do they ever go beyond and comment on cost, style, history, etc? I suppose I can somewhat appreciate BM, but in a comparison it's a 9.3 for Top Gear, a 7.8 for Fifth Gear, and a 5.2 for Best Motoring.

Sure they do! They do some very nice handling tests with cones, on the wet and more

road test, their windy track, the touge..

They also talk sometimes about techinical solution, examining the car in every detail, lifting it to analyze the bottom of it, they talk about previous versions...

altedza · 02-16-2004, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by TT

Originally Posted by altedza

Originally Posted by TT

Ah well sure if I'd have to choose just one it would be TG nonetheless

buy you asked if we like BM and well, I adore

Do you know if they ever comment on anything beyond the racing and the quarters? I guess I haven't really seen a full on episode.. do they ever go beyond and comment on cost, style, history, etc? I suppose I can somewhat appreciate BM, but in a comparison it's a 9.3 for Top Gear, a 7.8 for Fifth Gear, and a 5.2 for Best Motoring.

Sure they do! They do some very nice handling tests with cones, on the wet and more

road test, their windy track, the touge..

I suppose if I could better understand what was being said it would push the show up into the high 6's but I still like referring to articles, first-person accounts, and specs instead of this.

TT · 02-16-2004, 06:11 PM

Sure understanding them would be cool, but if you'd see a full DVD you'd discover they are lot more than simple quarter miles and races.

altedza · 02-16-2004, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by TT

Originally Posted by altedza

Originally Posted by TT

Ah well sure if I'd have to choose just one it would be TG nonetheless

buy you asked if we like BM and well, I adore

Do you know if they ever comment on anything beyond the racing and the quarters? I guess I haven't really seen a full on episode.. do they ever go beyond and comment on cost, style, history, etc? I suppose I can somewhat appreciate BM, but in a comparison it's a 9.3 for Top Gear, a 7.8 for Fifth Gear, and a 5.2 for Best Motoring.

Sure they do! They do some very nice handling tests with cones, on the wet and more

road test, their windy track, the touge..

They also talk sometimes about techinical solution, examining the car in every detail, lifting it to analyze the bottom of it, they talk about previous versions...

Do you have any full episodes? I usually just encounter "battles." In general, they show feels to dead and rigid. It lacks passion and soul. It's not pretty and colorful.

TT · 02-16-2004, 06:12 PM

Yes I have quite a few DVD, VCD and complete episodes and so on... the battles are just a small part...

altedza · 02-16-2004, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by TT

Yes I have quite a few DVD, VCD and complete episodes and so on... the battles are just a small part...

Hook it up, my friend. Hook it up.

altedza · 02-16-2004, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by everso

Best Motoring is entertaining to watch....but it's full of bullshit....stupid little Evos taking on Ferraris...what a joke.

Yeah, I always find that irritating. In addition to these full on "trackings" of multiple supercars. It just doesn't feel like these Ferraris are being dealt justice.

yg60m · 02-16-2004, 06:19 PM

Not always a joke when these EVO beat the Ferraris