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NYCHonda · 02-12-2004, 12:52 AM

I like those cars with their wheels are tuck in nicely a little inside the fender. How can you do that? Well, I know that I need to lower the car but I need to know more than that. Won't it rub? Do I need to get a certain offset of the wheels to fit that in? Mess around with the alignment or the camber? Anyone have experience with this? Thanks.

dutchmasterflex · 02-12-2004, 01:39 AM

you gotta adjust the camber angle so the wheel tilts inward twoards the fender..

deth · 02-12-2004, 01:56 AM

but then u're get silly tire wear right?

novass · 02-12-2004, 03:11 AM

It depends on how wide of a tire you are talking about putting in how wide of a space. On cars set up for the strip with huge tires in the back you have to augment the inner fender wells, shorten the axle(s) and in some cases alter the chassis. This is of course talking about putting huge, like 19" wide tires in there.

What kind of application do you mean?

NYCHonda · 02-12-2004, 03:17 AM

Basically I want the tires nicely tuck inside the fender, not too much though. It's basically just for looks. Something that look like the BTCC race cars about few years back.

novass · 02-12-2004, 03:41 AM

I would suggest finding a friendly tire/wheel place, somewhere where they will help you out as opposed to just try and get you to buy stuff. You might be able to find a wheel with a decent offset to bring them in a little more.

Another option is with your fenders. You could roll them out creating a wider lip or even get a wide body kit.

But if your talking about racecars, Dutchmaster may have been on the right track suggesting camber which may have been why the wheels looked tucked in on those cars. Im afraid im unfamiliar with the series however.

NYCHonda · 02-12-2004, 03:50 AM

Well, it's for a 1999 Honda Accord coupe. It has a 17" rims with 215/50 tires. I want to make the tires just tuck in a little, nothing crazy though. Right now the car has no fender gap but I want to lower it a little more. Should I get an adjustable camber kit for that?

NYCHonda · 02-12-2004, 03:56 AM

I want the car to look somewhat like this. It looks nice all tuck in.

bloeb · 02-12-2004, 12:51 PM

dont those btcc cars have modified front wings(fenders) with the arch cut out hella lot, and modified steering that has a lot less angle on it so the turning circle sucks

sickx · 02-12-2004, 05:43 PM

BTW, a common trick to keep from rubbing is to "roll" the fenders with a baseball bat...allows for that neat, 'tucked-in' look.

NYCHonda · 02-12-2004, 07:09 PM

Okay guys, when you guys said roll the fender, what is that mean? Do a custom flare fender work?

sickx · 02-13-2004, 06:42 PM

A custom fender flare is definitely the more expensive way to do it, but most likely it will actually increase the gap and, while allowing a wider tire, may not have the same 'tucked-in' look you are looking for.

jpatino03 · 02-13-2004, 11:28 PM

ARGH! I hate that look. Don't you think it's kind of ricey and screams "air suspension."

NYCHonda · 02-14-2004, 01:45 AM

Well, yea I think it looks nice but yea most people use air suspension though for that. It does look kinda ricey I guess if you drive it around on the streets. Well, thanks for all your input guys. I appreciate it.

StanAE86 · 02-15-2004, 05:14 AM

You're going to have to take the fender liner out first. Since you gain negative camber just from lowering the car, lowering the car slighting might get you the look you want. If you're going to be messing around with this "look", you should get a coilover suspension that will let you raise and lower the car.

If you look underneath the fender, along the fender lip, you will see an edging on it. Rolling the fender means you bend the edge of the fender lip upward, so that the 1/4" edge is pushed up against the inner side of the fender. That will give you about 1/4" more room. You can also roll the fender outward a little too, but you need to be careful about going to far and risking the fender and the bumper not lining up anymore, and chipping the paint on the fender as well.

Then of course, is a widebody kit, which is probably more custom and more expensive than you want to really consider.

As stated above, lowering the car gives you extra negative camber. Along with that is increased tire wear on the inner side. Lowering the car too much is actually detrimental to the handling performance of the car due to the lessened amount of surface area the tire has with the road, even under hard cornering.

Just some things to think about if all you're looking for is a "look".

Good luck.