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Old 06-13-2006, 02:15 PM   #1
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I can't understand why some people (well, a lot of people) did this horrendous things:

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Old 06-13-2006, 02:23 PM   #2
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People with such interests obviously stray from the normal
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Old 06-13-2006, 04:16 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by bmuller
This was truly a sad time in american history and definitely not something we are proud of.
You don't even need to go there - EVERY country in the world has done the same and worse - and from 1890 to 1940 in Europe was a terrible time - with even worse attrocoties being the norm rather than the exception.

The Spanish Civil War comes to mind as a particularly dark time. (of course the attrocities of WWI and WWII and well as the genocide and mass murder of the 1950's & 60's behind the iron curtain - and the ethnic cleansing of the 1980's and 90's also comes to mind)

So - in short PEOPLE (most of whom shown are all European immigrants and descendants to begin with) do bad shit.
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Old 06-13-2006, 04:38 PM   #4
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Just because every country has their shit doesn't make it OK for US...


That website is pretty sick (not in a good way). As a photographer I found it hard to not click next after each picture though..
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Old 06-13-2006, 04:54 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by dutchmasterflex
Just because every country has their shit doesn't make it OK for US...
Uhm - no one said it was "ok for us" - what I clearly said was "no need to apologize as if this only ever happened here"...

Because it didn't and doesn't - and the truth is that in the last 30 years the level of depravity displayed and excercised on a global scale makes these few lynchings not very bad at all.

The US has not been involved in any organized ethnic cleansing or genocide while a number of African, South American, European, Middle Eastern and Asian countries have.

That is the point and the reality.
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Old 06-13-2006, 05:27 PM   #6
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I don't know why some people ( well, someone) think that this is an attack against the US. I don't care where those things were done it just the fact they were done, and the fact they sold postscards of those acts that make me feel sick.
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Old 06-13-2006, 06:46 PM   #7
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^^^ good point, considering the times we live in, one would think that people would have changed their ways or thought by now.
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Old 06-13-2006, 07:18 PM   #8
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The human psyche has a facsination with morbid subjects such as this. If it didn't then there wouldn't be so many photographs of the concentration camps, which followed these photos by another 35-40 years.


Sure, some people can't handle stuff like this, but most people will just keep flipping through them, despite how disgusting they may think it is.
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Old 06-13-2006, 10:13 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by gangajas
I don't know why some people ( well, someone) think that this is an attack against the US. I don't care where those things were done it just the fact they were done, and the fact they sold postscards of those acts that make me feel sick.
Some people didn't have to think anything - some people simply responded to the posts made - one pointing out the acts - and another apologizing for them.
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Old 06-13-2006, 10:52 PM   #10
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here in the north, at one time, it was only the occasional daft nazi/jew/black/etc. hater doing a cross burning....

in fact, i cant remember the last time that may or may not have happened in Michigan.... the closest is grafitti some years back already

hey, at least the south didn't have concentration camps

still; a series of terrible things that have happened.
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Old 06-13-2006, 10:59 PM   #11
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shit happens. You can't control the past, nor should you take responsibility for what happened. All you can do is acknowledge it, learn from it, and keep it from happening again.
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Originally Posted by nthfinity
here in the north, at one time, it was only the occasional daft nazi/jew/black/etc. hater doing a cross burning....

in fact, i cant remember the last time that may or may not have happened in Michigan.... the closest is grafitti some years back already

hey, at least the south didn't have concentration camps

still; a series of terrible things that have happened.
i live near Pittsburgh and that is pretty far north, and it is still a "racist" town, very anti-gay. etc. but hey people are set in their ways, what are you going to do :bah: idiots. even if you don't agree with it you need to atleast accept it for what it is.
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live near Pittsburgh and that is pretty far north, and it is still a "racist" town, very anti-gay. etc. but hey people are set in their ways, what are you going to do idiots. even if you don't agree with it you need to atleast accept it for what it is.
anti-gay isnt racist.... since gay isn't a race last time i checked

anti-gay = all hetrosexuals wheather they want to be or not

what state is pitsburg in? PA?

that isn't that far north, mate
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Old 06-14-2006, 01:42 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by ZfrkS62
shit happens. You can't control the past, nor should you take responsibility for what happened. All you can do is acknowledge it, learn from it, and keep it from happening again.
Unfortunately, it does keep happening. Everytime genocide rears it's ugly head, the world does nothing. When it's over, we all hang our heads in shame while saying we can't let it happen again. And then it does. Darfur anyone?
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Old 06-14-2006, 02:41 AM   #15
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Hmm... Racism is everywhere. It is unavoidable. Everywhere you go, you will find people who are racist.

People with such interests obviously stray from the normal
Society back then was not particularly partial to blacks. Every single white person at that time would be denigrated as a racist by most people today. Lynching was pretty normal for people down south during that time. Society has now changed somewhat, although ghettos and the like still exist. This indicates increased levels of progressivity amongst the American population.
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