motor

Just_me · 07-07-2005, 10:23 AM

http://www.jesmb.de/indexie.htm
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/d/86426
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/d/86810

Specs released:

Naturally-Aspirated V-8 (90-degrees)
4-valves per cylinder
6208 ccm displacement
Max power: 510 hp (380kW)@ 6800 rpm
Max torque: 464lb-ft (630Nm) @ 5200 rpm
Redline: 7200 rpm

Ghostbat · 07-07-2005, 11:02 AM

Very impressive figures. Nice to see a Merc engine that revs a little higher. Too bad it's lost some torque but as we se with the E60 M5 a car can be pretty fast without being a torqumonster.. 7G-Tronic?

SPEEDKILLAR · 07-07-2005, 11:08 AM

It's about 20% more powerfull in its segment than its rivals, quite impressive indeed, but I will miss the rumble the SC engine make, but this should sound quite nice too.

It's also funny, that just as MB is starting with NA that BMW is turboiing

JiggaStyles09 · 07-07-2005, 11:10 AM

cool, thanks for the news, i have been waiting to see what the 63 power output would be. i am kinda confused with this engine. what was it developed for? is it replacing the supercharged 55, or maybe its just replacing the N/A 55? i dunno, i dont really see the point of this new engine. the supercharged 55 is a great powerplant and suits the heavy mercs well with all the torque it has. this engine seems peaky comparitively. maybe someone can explain.

Ghostbat · 07-07-2005, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by SPEEDKILLAR

It's about 20% more powerfull in its segment than its rivals, quite impressive indeed, but I will miss the rumble the SC engine make, but this should sound quite nice too.

Then feel free to bolt on a SC

SPEEDKILLAR · 07-07-2005, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Ghostbat

Originally Posted by SPEEDKILLAR

It's about 20% more powerfull in its segment than its rivals, quite impressive indeed, but I will miss the rumble the SC engine make, but this should sound quite nice too.

Then feel free to bolt on a SC

Can't think what the power output will be....monstrous :shock:

Just_me · 07-07-2005, 11:27 AM

All three germans (audi,bmw,mb) going NA . Lovely

SPEEDKILLAR · 07-07-2005, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by Just_me

All three germans (audi,bmw,mb) going NA . Lovely

Yeah lovely it is, but isn't BMW planning on turboiing the 335ti

But I guess they will no matter what keep their forced induction programs, at least a couple of engines.

Just_me · 07-07-2005, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by SPEEDKILLAR

Originally Posted by Just_me

All three germans (audi,bmw,mb) going NA . Lovely

Yeah lovely it is, but isn't BMW planning on turboiing the 335ti

But I guess they will no matter what keep their forced induction programs, at least a couple of engines.

As long as they dont use turbo in M cars, I'm happy

SPEEDKILLAR · 07-07-2005, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Just_me

Originally Posted by SPEEDKILLAR

Originally Posted by Just_me

All three germans (audi,bmw,mb) going NA . Lovely

Yeah lovely it is, but isn't BMW planning on turboiing the 335ti

But I guess they will no matter what keep their forced induction programs, at least a couple of engines.

As long as they dont use turbo in M cars, I'm happy

I don't think BMW will do that to its M models, the moment they reached the peak in the V10, they'll just make a V12

thepest · 07-07-2005, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Just_me

Originally Posted by SPEEDKILLAR

Originally Posted by Just_me

All three germans (audi,bmw,mb) going NA . Lovely

Yeah lovely it is, but isn't BMW planning on turboiing the 335ti

But I guess they will no matter what keep their forced induction programs, at least a couple of engines.

As long as they dont use turbo in M cars, I'm happy

Since when does BMW need a turbo for the M cars. I'm not saying that you said so, but hey there are the best without turbo always with naturally inspired power... M Power

Furthermore, if they use a turbo on a production M car........ well I bet you've seen footage with a turbocharged BMW!!!

nthfinity · 07-07-2005, 01:08 PM

Naturally-Aspirated V-8 (90-degrees)
4-valves per cylinder
6208 ccm displacement
Max power: 510 hp (380kW)@ 6800 rpm
Max torque: 464lb-ft (630Nm) @ 5200 rpm
Redline: 7200 rpm

sounds like a modifed 4 valve variant of the 6.2 l SRT8 engine... with only 85 more ponies then the 2 valve version here...

RC45 · 07-07-2005, 02:28 PM

Rather a weak engine all things considered

Gnome · 07-08-2005, 05:55 AM

The torque is disapointing, but that's what you get when you go NA. Both the fact that you have to rev up to 5200 rpm before you get max torque, and that it is "only" 630 Nm. They are good numbers, but nowhere near the performance they have had with superchargers.

I gues this is more suited for driving hard on a track than cruising. Is MB trying to change their image?

TT · 07-08-2005, 06:00 AM

LOL I really doubt that "only" 630 Nm are not suited for relaxed highway cruising dude! I fear we are too used to silly cars with 1000+ Nm these days :bah: