Infiniti GT-R almost 100% complete

[DeMoN]

I took this from another forum:

Back in July 2003, ‘Holiday Auto’ magazine (Japan) reported the existence of a 1:5th scale clay model of the Next GT-R in which various aerodynamic aids and styling were being trialed… then we heard nothing. Since then a myriad of CG images – by GT-R fans and Nissan alike – have been conjured up, all original designs but all based roughly on the 2001 Tokyo Motor Show Nissan GT-R Concept.

… well, the final design has been decided…

Our source expects the final design renderings to be released by Nissan Design Europe which goes against previous rumors that Nissan Design America would play a part. From now on, NDE will be taking into consideration just how much their design will limit mass production, so there’s a good chance minor details will be changed from the 2005 ‘Concept’ to be shown at this years Tokyo Motor Show. That said, the final shape of the car is complete as is illustrated below:



The above image shows a front bumper with large openings which form one large opening with the grille included. There’s a large diffuser incorporated in the rear bumper too, so both these parts form the basis of the advanced underbody aerodynamics package. Seeing the design of these two major parts of the car have been decided, we can assume that the wheelbase and overall body size have been made final. The main focus of the 2005 Concept design has been to differentiate the GT-R from the regular (and yet to be released) V36 Skyline range. This is evident by the crease line around the waist of the car and details around the headlights and aft of the front wheel arches. The final design is completely original, sharing no major panels with the Skyline. That’s right, the next GT-R has completely shed any links to the ‘Skyline GT-R’ of old. Even though cosmetic details of the next GT-R mirror previous GT-R’s (such as the four round tail lights), it will be very different from any Skyline either current or past.

Lets now have a look at the overall dimensions. The entire length of the next GT-R will be shorter than the R34 (4600mm) coming in at about 4500mm. Then the width! Our informer has jokingly said that the next GT-R will look like a Choro-Q! (a miniature toy car with ‘squashed’ proportions) We can expect the GT-R to be about 1900 to 2000mm wide, with a wheelbase of 2700m giving the GT-R a ‘forward cabin – short front overhang’ look, with large rear fenders reminiscent of the Porsche 911 Turbo used to be back in the late 1970’s. As for other cosmetic changes, there has been talk that Nissan will ‘remake’ the head lights and rear combination lights once again…

Moving on to the engine and driveline, development is really starting to move along. As has been reported on before, the next GT-R will use a 3.2L V6 motor-assist twin turbo engine rated at 480ps powering the rear wheels through a traditional RWD transaxle with the front wheels powered by electric motors controlled by an advanced 4WD controller even more sophisticated than the last version of Nissans ‘ATESSA’… but it seems like something new has happened?



* The next GT-R will be lighter than the Fairlady Z/350Z., with the use of carbon and aluminum throughout the car, the next GT-R is destined to weigh in less than the Fairlady Z’s 1450kg. This should put any concerns about the GT-R being heavier due to the incredible amount of new systems and technology that’s slated to be included in the final package.
* Back in October last year, the next GT-R prototype was spotted at the Nurburgring old course and subsequently appeared on the cover of just about every car magazine around the world. The Nurburgring prototype completed only a single lap of the old course and was sporting a clever Infinti G35 disguise. The single lap was intended to test mechanicals, but the main focus was on testing a ‘semi-wet sump’ system which is much more practical than the original dry sump system that was planned. So the final decision is a semi-wet sump and we’ll update the details of this as soon as more information arises.
* It’s GT-R lore now that the 1989 - 94 BNR32 GT-R sold at a loss for about 5,000,000 yen, when in actual fact it cost 12,000,000 yen to produce, and Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn has vowed that that situation will never occur again. In fact, Ghosn has said to be pushing for a higher quality vehicle than the next GT-R’s arch rival, the Porsche 911 Turbo. The Porsche 911 Turbo is still the car Nissan want to beat and it seems Ghosn wants to do it better at two thirds the price… But we can rest assured that the next GT-R won’t put Nissan into the red.
* Based on Getrag components, Nissan have developed their own sequential 7-speed gearbox for use in the next GT-R. More on this in our next update.

The next GT-R will be sold as ‘Infiniti GT-R’ in markets outside Japan, as that model name has already been registered in Europe, Australia and the USA, and Infiniti GT-R has been registered in Japan too! Although it’s difficult to imagine the final product, we can’t see why there would be any difference at all between the domestic Japanese GT-R and the export version. The last question on everyone’s lips is: Will the GT-R show up as an Infiniti, completely separate from the Skyline?



Nissan will keep production costs of the next GT-R to a minimum by ‘aggressively cutting costs’, which means parts sharing to you and me. In fact, the 7-speed sequential gearbox will be adapted to an all new RWD car which will be the next big surprise after the GT-R is released. As for marketing and final minor details of the next GT-R, Carlos Ghosn is doing his best to keep everything very secret as he has all but claimed the next GT-R project as his own. But all will be disclosed at the Tokyo Motor Show come October.


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This October the final concept will be released! Damn if the car ends up looking like that, I'll be a happy man. Infiniti dealership is 10 minutes away from me! Ill defenitelly ask for a test drive even though I couldnt buy that car even if I sold every last drop of sperm and blood in my body!

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[LotusGT1]

ALthough a nice post, any reason why this isn't in Car Chat ?

[DeMoN]

lol cuz im Dumb like that sometimes...

Dan! TT! a lil help over here with the moveout =D

[Onix]

done

[5vz-fe]

The computer generated red GT-R looks very much like an DB9 don't u guys think? It will be interesting tho to see how hybrid performace car will perform in the track. Will the electric motor run out of juice? Will the motor overheat if the tract has alot of slow corners........

[gobs3z]

The first one looks really good, but i still really like the looks of the 2001 concept. First, has there been an engine decision? Second, i'm really excited to see that it'll be in the U.S. market, but are we going to be waiting till 2008-09 to actually get it?

[sentra_dude]

Looks cool, although not pretty, but an interesting shape none-the-less. I wonder if this is going to be another e60 M5 deal with the 7spd transmission...it doesn't seem like 7 speeds in the H-gate pattern is practical. Finally Nissan doesn't have to use restraint with hp numbers , 480ps should make for a very quick Tskuba time.

[DeMoN]

Originally Posted by 5vz-fe The computer generated red GT-R looks very much like an DB9 don't u guys think? It will be interesting tho to see how hybrid performace car will perform in the track. Will the electric motor run out of juice? Will the motor overheat if the tract has alot of slow corners........

The electric one will only be used to make it 4x4 when the car detects rear wheel spin... like the previous R 34, it will be both 2x2 and 4x4 in extreme conditions only that this time, they say, the 4x4 will work even better!

Originally Posted by gobs3z The first one looks really good, but i still really like the looks of the 2001 concept. First, has there been an engine decision? Second, i'm really excited to see that it'll be in the U.S. market, but are we going to be waiting till 2008-09 to actually get it?

waiting? More like EARNING as this car will probably cost around 80k $ and the engine has not been decided yet, but 3.2 is the numbers they refer to most of the time. Only the chasis is almost 100% done. Enginewize they may still make changes

Originally Posted by goodduck also what ever happend to this design. this woudl be incredible imo

Apparently (I read in the 7TUNE.com web too) that design was not liked by many people. Once they released those pictures and showed the concept in 2001, people started talking about its "bad" looks online so they decided to change it.

They should have made it look like this... (I Photoshopped the front part)

[Neema702]

i think the car looks fuckin sick... and i cant wait to see how it performs! i hope the interior isnt shot to shit tho, i hate it when car companies do that. i think a car like this should have a great interior to go along with all of its other amazing qualities. also... i hope they incorporate some type of sequential manual transmission, something along the lines of BMW's SMG.

[sads]

I've seen so many damn suppossed "new GTR" pics now I'm going crazy but this one is very nice indeed as a matter of fact I love it!!!!!
But not calling it the Skyline GTR is sacrelidge. Whats the point of calling it the Infiniti GTR everyone knows its a Skyline so do the right thing call it the Skyline GTR, even if it is sold as a Infiniti rather then a Nissan.
Im already drolling at the prospect of 911 T Vs GTR

[Sir_GT]

It better be bloody good especially at the price they're asking for it.

[zondaland]

Maybe I'm completely blind, but to me it looks much too much like a 350z.

On a brighter note a year or two ago the guy who developed Renault F1's awesome electronics was working at Nissan. What odds that he was involved with this project??? After all Renault and Nissan are two halves of the same company.

[sads]

Its bound to be a quick car and with the removal of the power cap from Japan a few months ago it should be able to get the job done aginst its rival.

[DeMoN]

Originally Posted by sads I've seen so many damn suppossed "new GTR" pics now I'm going crazy but this one is very nice indeed as a matter of fact I love it!!!!! But not calling it the Skyline GTR is sacrelidge. Whats the point of calling it the Infiniti GTR everyone knows its a Skyline so do the right thing call it the Skyline GTR, even if it is sold as a Infiniti rather then a Nissan. Im already drolling at the prospect of 911 T Vs GTR

So have I, but this comes from a trusty source. The final concept will be unveiled 31st October this year... there wont be too many changes done to the looks of it.

The reason they are not called Skyline is because In the US they market it differently Skyline will be a name that stays in Japan.

Over here, as with the Infiniti G35 (which is SKYLINE 350GT in Japan), it might come as Infiniti GT-R. This has not been said yet. They are still deciding.

In one part, if it is called Nissan, they wont do well chargin 80K $ for a Nissan, but the Nissan Skyline name would stay.

Also, Lexus is making their supercar (worth over 100k to beat ferraris) so I think its a good idea Infiniti start worrying about this. Infiniti has beaten Lexus in all other cars so far... they should try and keep it that way.

Performancewize, I am SURE that this car will be a monster! Infiniti has been increasing car power by A LOT compared to when they started. They made the M45 a FUKIN fast saloon which beat every other saloon on car and driver magazine comparison (even the 5 series BMW).

now interiorwize... boy we might have a problem... That was the only criticizm they gave the M45 and when you compare G35 with the Lexus IS, IS is beter on the interior part. Anyway with the performance this GT-R should have, the Interior wont be of too much matter.

Besides, if you want confy luxury... then you wouldnt want a sports car as the suspension would make the ride stiff (luxury looking people also want smooth ride).

[Pokiou]

bring back the r34 i say or the r32 gtr .... bloody awsome cars

Pok