12-06-2004, 06:53 PM
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New Merc M-class
Pics of the new the new Mercedes M-class (W164) were released last week. It will be presented at the Detroit Motorshow in January 2005 and will be produced in the Alabama (US) plant like the previous M-class. Mercedes new softroader will be at the dealers in the spring of 2005.
It will be available with the following engines:
ML 350: 3.5 V6 (269 hp)
ML 500: 5.0 V8 (288 hp)
ML 460: 4.6 V8 (326 hp) -> will probably replace the ML 500 somewhere in 2006
ML 550: 5.5 V8 (408 hp)
ML 63 AMG: 6.3 V8 (462 hp)
ML 280 CDI: 2.8 V6 (190 hp)
ML 320 CDI: 3.2 V6 (218 hp)
ML 400 CDI: 4.0 V8 (299 hp)
All engines will be linked to Mercedes 7-speed automatic, the 7G-Tronic.
source: autoweek.nl
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12-06-2004, 07:04 PM
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Looks like another lazy designer, didn't even bother to change the headlights. Only noticable change i can see is the sharpening of the lines around the rear window and new foglights.
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12-06-2004, 07:06 PM
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Looks a lot better than the last one, but to bad it looks like a lexus.
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12-06-2004, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by gottacatchup
Looks like another lazy designer, didn't even bother to change the headlights. Only noticable change i can see is the sharpening of the lines around the rear window and new foglights.
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It's probably the same guy that designed the "new" Porsche 997. 
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12-06-2004, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by vexor
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Originally Posted by gottacatchup
Looks like another lazy designer, didn't even bother to change the headlights. Only noticable change i can see is the sharpening of the lines around the rear window and new foglights.
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It's probably the same guy that designed the "new" Porsche 997. |
lol i dont think its that bad, i like the subtle improvements, it looks more squared off now and muscular.
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12-06-2004, 08:44 PM
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It looks like rubbish. The arse is the fat momma version of the new SLK, and roof over it looks like... well... a roof. From a house. In china.
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12-06-2004, 08:47 PM
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Lazy!? What are you talkin about man!? the changes are totally significant...the headlights are different style than the latest ones that the 163 has...also the interior is totally different, no more center console window buttons and different glove compartment...
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12-06-2004, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MercedeSChink
Lazy!? What are you talkin about man!? the changes are totally significant...the headlights are different style than the latest ones that the 163 has...also the interior is totally different, no more center console window buttons and different glove compartment...
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Aren't you happy you sold your M-class and learned a lesson? 
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12-06-2004, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by vexor
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Originally Posted by gottacatchup
Looks like another lazy designer, didn't even bother to change the headlights. Only noticable change i can see is the sharpening of the lines around the rear window and new foglights.
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Hahaha. . .
Looks very lexus like for sure. Especially the headlights.
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12-07-2004, 12:10 AM
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those lazy germans! well i think it looks pretty good except the side shots because of that rear bumper and the tail lights which just screws it up
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12-07-2004, 12:15 AM
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The back looks much better then it used to.
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12-07-2004, 01:24 AM
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looks much less like a van from the back.. much different actually, just proportions are the same almost, c pillar angle is the same as the lexus. it almost looks smaller, but im sure it wouldnt be by much.
good design, probablly poor execution though
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12-07-2004, 03:05 AM
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HAHAHAHAHA....Mercedes is trying to copy all the Asian manufacturers, the front end looks like a combination of a Lexus RX300 and a Kia Sorento and the exhaust looks like it's from a recent Acura MDX. Not to mention that the C-pillar looks a lot like the one on the Chrysler Pacifica....oy vey, the old one was bland, but at least it wasn't ugly.
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12-07-2004, 04:48 AM
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Thank you mercedes. Not bad at all. Why are they phasing out the 500? is this a all across the board or just ML Class? the 5.0 liter should make more power and torque than a 4.6 liter when tuned to max, so why are they discontinuing it?
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12-07-2004, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dani_d_mas
Mercs had a chance to make a car closer to the lines of the X5 and Cayenne... but they've done it again... a dull and boring SUV. However... it looks much better than the old one.
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Yup, totally agree.
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