10-01-2004, 07:53 AM
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Another styling rant - at supercars.
I know similar threads have been posted but thought I'd start a newer one.
I have now finally seen the following contenders up close: Ferrari Enzo, Porsche Carrera GT, Bugatti EB110, Jaguar XJ220, Porsche GT1, Mercedes CLK GTR, Maclaren F1.
And my thoughts are - even though all of these are seriously accomplished supercars, they are rather bland. Face it - the Enzo is a HUGE car(same for Merc and Jag). The modern gadgets make it work rather well, but its not as fantastic as people make it out to be. (I like the styling though. Its just too big). The Carrera GT is bland (Although definitely a Porsche). An overgrown Boxster? The enzo has the flair that the porsche lacks. The Porsche has the sound... (Enzo sound good too.)
The Maclaren is pure and simple. So it does not shock as much. It is very low in traffic - I saw mine *underneath* another car! But it is most spectacular with open doors.
See where I am getting to? Take all these cars. Take specific bits and you have ingredients of something special, which none really grasp.
Maclaren performance, Carrera sound, Ferrari flair? I know the manufacturers are all different. Who would want a Jaguar that looks and drives like a Ferrari, or a Porsche 4X4(hehehe)?
Its just that in general these cars leave me cold. For this reason I have to admire Pagani - getting there, although I do not like them much.
If you want to make a supercar - top speed isn't everything.
I think the Veyron is one of the worst concepts ever and I am quite sure its going to be a uselesss behemoth and retell the sad XJ220 story...
Is there any manufacturer out there that can actually create something to get the blood flowing?
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10-01-2004, 09:29 AM
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The Maclaren is pure and simple. So it does not shock as much. It is very low in traffic - I saw mine *underneath* another car!
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wat does that mean?
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10-01-2004, 09:40 AM
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Not sure where you're coming from exactly. All those cars you list definitely DO get my "blood flowing".
Not liking supercars will put you in the minority on this site i think..
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10-01-2004, 09:44 AM
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Re: Another styling rant - at supercars.
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Originally Posted by irrational_i
The Maclaren is pure and simple. So it does not shock as much. It is very low in traffic - I saw mine *underneath* another car! But it is most spectacular with open doors.
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Are you saying you have a McLaren F1?
I can't really agree with any of your points, and as rob_e1 said you will on your own on this topic.
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10-01-2004, 10:02 AM
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I don't agree with any of that. All of those cars are supercars and rightly so.
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10-01-2004, 10:49 AM
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I think we need pics of your McLaren to illustrate your point.
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10-01-2004, 11:04 AM
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You are right on one thing, Pagani is great, but everything else....bland cars???
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10-01-2004, 11:14 AM
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Re: Another styling rant - at supercars.
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Originally Posted by irrational_i
I know similar threads have been posted but thought I'd start a newer one.
I have now finally seen the following contenders up close: Ferrari Enzo, Porsche Carrera GT, Bugatti EB110, Jaguar XJ220, Porsche GT1, Mercedes CLK GTR, Maclaren F1.
And my thoughts are - even though all of these are seriously accomplished supercars, they are rather bland. Face it - the Enzo is a HUGE car(same for Merc and Jag). The modern gadgets make it work rather well, but its not as fantastic as people make it out to be. (I like the styling though. Its just too big). The Carrera GT is bland (Although definitely a Porsche). An overgrown Boxster? The enzo has the flair that the porsche lacks. The Porsche has the sound... (Enzo sound good too.)
The Maclaren is pure and simple. So it does not shock as much. It is very low in traffic - I saw mine *underneath* another car! But it is most spectacular with open doors.
See where I am getting to? Take all these cars. Take specific bits and you have ingredients of something special, which none really grasp.
Maclaren performance, Carrera sound, Ferrari flair? I know the manufacturers are all different. Who would want a Jaguar that looks and drives like a Ferrari, or a Porsche 4X4(hehehe)?
Its just that in general these cars leave me cold. For this reason I have to admire Pagani - getting there, although I do not like them much.
If you want to make a supercar - top speed isn't everything.
I think the Veyron is one of the worst concepts ever and I am quite sure its going to be a uselesss behemoth and retell the sad XJ220 story...
Is there any manufacturer out there that can actually create something to get the blood flowing?
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you apparently dont know shit about supercars. well u are entitled to your opinion, i feel it is supremely biased. the enzo is sex on wheels. although the styling is edgy, it still retains some of the lines of it predecessors. the CGT is as sexy as any porsche has ever been, great to look at, and not bland at all. and the mclaren doesnt shock? if i saw one in person, id have a god damn heart attack dude. hows that for shock?! also if top speed was everything as ur claiming it is to supercars, then how come these above mentioned cars are not after the mclarens 240.1 mph? cause its not all about top speed, its about style, power, and each brand pushing it to the limits. all these cars are awesome, something 'very very special'. i guess you should stick to purchasing chevy aveos, and ford f150s, maybe they will get ur blood flowing
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10-01-2004, 11:43 AM
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Re: Another styling rant - at supercars.
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Originally Posted by dingo22
Are you saying you have a McLaren F1?
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Originally Posted by jon_s
think we need pics of your McLaren to illustrate your point.
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Ermmm.. i think mine is a figure of speech. As in, my sighting
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10-01-2004, 12:18 PM
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You could be right number1. Still an odd turn of phrase though.
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10-01-2004, 12:20 PM
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Re: Another styling rant - at supercars.
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Originally Posted by callen
you apparently dont know shit about supercars.
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hahahahah LMAO !!!
I gave up reading his post when there was a reference to the CGT being an over grown boxter....LOL...
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10-01-2004, 12:26 PM
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Re: Another styling rant - at supercars.
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Originally Posted by irrational_i
I know similar threads have been posted but thought I'd start a newer one.
I have now finally seen the following contenders up close: Ferrari Enzo, Porsche Carrera GT, Bugatti EB110, Jaguar XJ220, Porsche GT1, Mercedes CLK GTR, Maclaren F1.
And my thoughts are - even though all of these are seriously accomplished supercars, they are rather bland. Face it - the Enzo is a HUGE car(same for Merc and Jag). The modern gadgets make it work rather well, but its not as fantastic as people make it out to be. (I like the styling though. Its just too big). The Carrera GT is bland (Although definitely a Porsche). An overgrown Boxster? The enzo has the flair that the porsche lacks. The Porsche has the sound... (Enzo sound good too.)
The Maclaren is pure and simple. So it does not shock as much. It is very low in traffic - I saw mine *underneath* another car! But it is most spectacular with open doors.
See where I am getting to? Take all these cars. Take specific bits and you have ingredients of something special, which none really grasp.
Maclaren performance, Carrera sound, Ferrari flair? I know the manufacturers are all different. Who would want a Jaguar that looks and drives like a Ferrari, or a Porsche 4X4(hehehe)?
Its just that in general these cars leave me cold. For this reason I have to admire Pagani - getting there, although I do not like them much.
If you want to make a supercar - top speed isn't everything.
I think the Veyron is one of the worst concepts ever and I am quite sure its going to be a uselesss behemoth and retell the sad XJ220 story...
Is there any manufacturer out there that can actually create something to get the blood flowing?
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just been to the pub so can't be arsed to flame you, callen did such a good job
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10-01-2004, 12:43 PM
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A carrera GT passed me a few weeks ago. Wow that thing HOWLS..!
Even my gran would have been impressed, and there's no way she would have thought it was just a big boxster.. lol..
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10-01-2004, 02:16 PM
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What the fuck are you still doing on JW? This is a place for car lovers, not haters.
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10-01-2004, 02:20 PM
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I think his name says it all...
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