06-29-2004, 11:52 PM
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European roads = Great Drivers
I was talking with Brembo on another topic and we were discussing how roads in the USA are different from the roads in Europe. In most motorsports, you see many Europeans dominating and not nearly enough americans. I think one of the main reasons of this domination is because of the setup of the roads. My family and I visited Ireland and you could clearly see that it is extremely more difficult to drive there then in the USA. And...come on, all we have are long straight boring highways. Tell me what you think?
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06-29-2004, 11:56 PM
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I say the claims are rightfully justified.
US does have lots and lots of horrible drivers, not only the people who are good at driving yet break laws, but also the incompetent drivers
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06-30-2004, 12:54 AM
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i don't really think it's because of the roads. the racing culture in europe is much different from the one in america. this is the reason why i feel that europeans or european-trained drivers tend to excel in motorsports more than americans.
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06-30-2004, 01:42 AM
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U.s highways are really good for highspeeding, you can pull the pedal in a never ending US straight, but in europe you have this beautiful landscapes and really good curves...... 8)
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06-30-2004, 03:04 AM
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So that would emply that because brazilian roads have so many potholes and are such a mess, we are great at zig-zagging at high speeds.... makes sense but i doubt Senna drove in Brazil much..
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06-30-2004, 03:15 AM
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Re: European roads = Great Drivers
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Originally Posted by Apac102
I was talking with Brembo on another topic and we were discussing how roads in the USA are different from the roads in Europe. In most motorsports, you see many Europeans dominating and not nearly enough americans. I think one of the main reasons of this domination is because of the setup of the roads. My family and I visited Ireland and you could clearly see that it is extremely more difficult to drive there then in the USA. And...come on, all we have are long straight boring highways. Tell me what you think?
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I think your partially right, ppl that don't even know how to drive in Europe tend to get better as time passes.
And we drive more with manuals here, and ooh yes, those beautifel curves, hey just keep on coming and coming, untill your arms hurt
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06-30-2004, 03:30 AM
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yes you can learn how to drive in the big city of europe, if you can drive there you can drive everywhere. But yes in europe we prefer some good curve than a straight line. And to have your driving test it"s more difficult than in the us, in france 20 hours minimum.
And with manual gear it's real driving everything is in your hand, not like in an auomatic car.
So you are better for things like nascar and we are better for things like rally.
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06-30-2004, 05:00 AM
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yeah qutie true i guess
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06-30-2004, 05:23 AM
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Well, perhaps you're right but I think the roads are not the direct cause of the exit. I believe the most important point is the promotional motor events in the country which helps youg people to improve their skills...For example, if we took a single country that more or less has the same type of roads among the country as Spain. Perhaps the roads are more or less the same but my region, Catalonia, has much more regional sport events and circuits to do them than any other part in the country. The resullt is that almost all the elit drivers are catalan or has grown up as a drivers in Catalonia, you see:
In F1:
-De la Rosa (catalan)
-Marc Gen?? (catalan)
-Fernando Alonso (started his career in Catalonia)
In the Cart:
-Oriol Servi?? (the driver of my signature) (catalan)
WRC:
-Dani Sol?? (a young driver, catalan)
-Carlos Sainz is sponsored since his begginings by a catalan sponsor)
In motorbikes:
-??lex Crivill?? (catalan)
-Carles Checa (catalan)
-Sete Gibernau (catalan)
-Rub??n Xaus (catalan)
-Dani Pedrosa (catalan)
-Toni Elias (catalan)
-Jorge Lorenzo (catalan)
...and others. I mean that obviously the roads affects to the rising of drivers (all we know how difficult is to win scandinavian drivers in snow), but I think it's not the main point to be in mind.
And USA also has had incredible drivers, at least in motorbikes. Nobody who loves the MotoGP championship will never forget "King"Kenny, Freddy Spencer, Eddie Lawson, Kevin Schwantz, Wayne Rainey...
(sorry for the lenght!) 
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06-30-2004, 05:34 AM
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Just a correction
Jorge Lorenzo isn't catalan, is from the Balearic Islands, like me 8)
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06-30-2004, 05:41 AM
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Well, I live in a country were the Alps takes a pretty big portion of its geography  enough said
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06-30-2004, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ravenpaua
Just a correction
Jorge Lorenzo isn't catalan, is from the Balearic Islands, like me 8)
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Sorry, then he started his career in Catalonia
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06-30-2004, 06:44 AM
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Its due to the racing culture.. Here they like nascar for some reason.. :roll:
I can show you plenty of roads here that are just as curvy as yours that I drive every day.
Street driving and track driving are two completely different animals.
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06-30-2004, 06:55 AM
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BS.
European drivers are no way better or worse than US citizens.
Check this link, this is a topic about Autobahnization of the US Interstate System on another forum I visit:
http://www.exoticcarforums.com/forum...ead.php?t=5784
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06-30-2004, 09:42 AM
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I think that it is totally non related to country roads. The real good drivers start their career far earlier than even have a license.
It is much more country couture. Europeans like twists tracks  , American only turn left. :roll:
And we try to win all
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