06-23-2004, 01:41 PM
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BMW M5 engine, high quality pics (56kwarning)
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06-23-2004, 02:10 PM
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Really impressive piece of engineering :shock:
But not as good as MB
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damn speedkillar, if you didnt have a title already it would now say 'robofucker' or similar 
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06-23-2004, 04:04 PM
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The exhaust system is sooooo freaking sweet!!!!! :shock:
*EDIT*
For a even more details of the engine GermanCarFans has more =)
http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cf...001/bmw/1.html
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06-23-2004, 04:22 PM
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nice find, really cool engine
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06-23-2004, 04:23 PM
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A piece of Automotive Art...
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06-23-2004, 05:13 PM
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Verrrrrrrry nice....anyone have any extra money????
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06-23-2004, 06:20 PM
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i was expecting more torque.
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06-23-2004, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by blah
i was expecting more torque.
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yea i suppose 380 is kinda low for such a high RPM but the curve is relatively flat for such a high revving engine. Its very difficult (from info i have read) to have a lot of low RPM torque when you are also pushing over 100hp/liter and redlining at over 8000RPM (8250 to be exact).
link of tq curve (courtesy of Zafiro): http://www.bm3w.co.uk/ug/data/500/34graph.jpg
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06-24-2004, 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JiggaStyles09
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Originally Posted by blah
i was expecting more torque.
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yea i suppose 380 is kinda low for such a high RPM but the curve is relatively flat for such a high revving engine. Its very difficult (from info i have read) to have a lot of low RPM torque when you are also pushing over 100hp/liter and redlining at over 8000RPM (8250 to be exact).
link of tq curve (courtesy of Zafiro): http://www.bm3w.co.uk/ug/data/500/34graph.jpg
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AMG engines offer much more torque....
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06-24-2004, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ahmedgiyab
AMG engines offer much more torque.... 
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yes, but BMW isnt cheating
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06-24-2004, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Zafiro
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Originally Posted by ahmedgiyab
AMG engines offer much more torque.... 
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yes, but BMW isnt cheating 
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I guess you mean the "superchargers" that AMG is using....
Even before they used any SC.....torque was better for MB....
E39 M5 has 400Bhp and 500Nm
W210 E55 has 354Bhp and 530Nm.....
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06-24-2004, 06:04 AM
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CAR magazine interviewed the head of th M division, and asked why they didn't go all out on the torque. He said that once you introduce more torque, you have to also place a bigger, tougher, but ultimately heavier transmission. It was this reason alone why they didn't join the torque race. It would make the M5 heavier, and thus more clumsy than they want. He said that the M division's ultimate goal was to have the best power-to-weight ratio in each class.
Which explains why MB's are too heavy to "fling around" compared to BMW's.
and AMG uses Superchargers, which add weight, and can be considered cheating.
Hell, even Gordon Murray, the man behind the McLaren F1, and one of the top guys at McLaren Mercedes, stated that BMW were still the better engine makers.
Oh...and if you want to really talk to somebody about MB's engines, go ask Kimi Raikonnen... I'm sure he's VERY happy with them.
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06-24-2004, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ahmedgiyab
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Originally Posted by Zafiro
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Originally Posted by ahmedgiyab
AMG engines offer much more torque.... 
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yes, but BMW isnt cheating 
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I guess you mean the "superchargers" that AMG is using....
Even before they used any SC.....torque was better for MB....
E39 M5 has 400Bhp and 500Nm
W210 E55 has 354Bhp and 530Nm..... 
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yes I know but E39 only had a 4.9 liters engine , while the E55 was 5.5 liters, therefore e55 had better torque.
Maybe BMw should put a truckengine in their M-cars like Viper
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06-24-2004, 07:46 AM
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Very nice pictures
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06-24-2004, 08:12 AM
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excellent pictures! Thank you very much.
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