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Old 01-12-2004, 01:49 PM   #61
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They also use v4's in marine engines!!
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Old 01-12-2004, 07:35 PM   #62
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Originally Posted by RC45
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hey Rc what is a parallel twin if u wouldnt mind explaining it to me..i have never head that term used before..im off to search google right now
Think of the engine layout as "side by side" cylinders - as apposed to behind each other.

Parallel is a term often used to describe the "across the frame" layout of a twin cylinder bike engine, since the cylinders are parallel to each other... as apposed to the "inline-4" term that is popularly used to describe "across the frame" 4 cylinder bikes... (some very early bikes used a true front to back inline 4 cylinder layout - but we are talking in the early 20th century here )

The most successful V4 bikes have taken the across the frame inline 4 and pulled alternate cylinders forwards and backwards to form the V - running across the frame, as apposed to the typical longitudinal V6 or V8 layout used in cars.

The V could be anywhere from a small 45 degree angle to a wide 90 degree V.

This V may might even be placed with one bank of cylinders parallel to the ground plane, and one perpendicular - as they tried to find the optimum position.

Honda had a very successful inline-6 cylinder in the 1000cc Honda CBX about 20 years ago - Honda have often used a flat 4 - and now use a flat-6 design in a couple bikes.

During the mid-80's Honda had a very successful V3 500cc race bike, that spawned a V3 400cc street bike. Again the V is across the frame instead of longitudinal - as the few bikes (Moto-Guzzi comes to mind -as well as the pig-iron Honda CX500) that have had the V in the longitudinal orientation, have handled like pigs due to the weird harmonics that V layout induces.

I have ridden a couple of CX500's - they suck.

Although Honda have gone and used a longitudinal V4 in a few of their bikes - just to prove that with the correct balancing - they could do it.

Bikes have had pretty much every engine layout imaginable - singles, across the frame twins, V-twins, across the frame triples, V3's, inline 4's, V4's, V5's, V6's, flat 6's, a few experimental V8's and Honda's own oval pistoned V4 NR - whose layout used 2 con rods per per piston, 2 plus and 8 valves per cylinder - looking exactly like a V8 with the pistons of adjacent cylinders siamesed together to form an oval.

Suzuki even had a very succesful square 4 500cc two stroke - basically two parallel twins, with their own crank shafts geared together (Arial had a square 4 in the 1950's as well).

Yamaha also had a very good V4 2 stroke that also used 2 crank shafts.

No student of engines and motive power could NOT be interested in motorcycle engines...
hey thanks for explaining that all my searching of google didnt pull up info like that..i did learn about the bikes they were in though

thanks again
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