Parents out there, never let kids have fast cars

[RC45]

Originally Posted by zevolv Originally Posted by mhn3773 they use v-4s in racing motor cycles? do u have a link to a motor cycle v-4 i have never seen one..least not that i know although if it was a v-4 i could have assumed it was just a 2cyl They don't use V-4s in racing bikes I even looked it up to make sure and they don't EDIT: the search I did on Google gave me nothing for racing bikes with V engines other than a V-twin.

You must not know how to use google then - the V4 was the prolific race engine configuration of an entire decade and half of 2 stroke GP racing.

If you didn't have one - you didn't win.

Statements like the one you made above (with supposed proof) are very misleading to those that hope to learn something... please think before you post something you don't know about - or at best research first.

I guess you are going to argue that their never existed engines with oval pistons - or V5's or even V3's either.

[RC45]

Originally Posted by zevolv Originally Posted by mhn3773 they use v-4s in racing motor cycles? do u have a link to a motor cycle v-4 i have never seen one..least not that i know although if it was a v-4 i could have assumed it was just a 2cyl They don't use V-4s in racing bikes I even looked it up to make sure and they don't EDIT: the search I did on Google gave me nothing for racing bikes with V engines other than a V-twin.

This is what Google returned for me:

Searched the web for v4 motorcycle. Results 1 - 10 of about 26,400. Search took 0.16 seconds.

[zevolv]

all pistons are oval shaped (slightly)

[zevolv]

and I really don't care that much about bikes OK they don't interest me that much I prefer to have a structure surrounding me. especially after seeing my cousins friend wipe out at ove 100mph

[RC45]

Originally Posted by zevolv and I really don't care that much about bikes OK they don't interest me that much I prefer to have a structure surrounding me. especially after seeing my cousins friend wipe out at ove 100mph

Your prefering bikes or cars or parrots or llamas has NOTHING to do with spewing tripe and then trying to back it up with rubbish.

This website/forum has far too many members with both knowledge and interest in factual mechanlical information.

I guess your dislike for bikes also prevents your using Google correctly.

*pffft* - *whatever*

[deth]

hehe....*sniff* *sniff*....smoke?..............flame war?

[zevolv]

You know I don't give a shit about this thread anymore all the info about the difference between the Inline and V engines, and the boxer/opposed engines was fully correct I have ripped apart and rebuilt about 20 engines so thank you but I do know quite a bit about how engines work, I'm going in for ASE certification in 2 weeks so I'm pretty damn sure I know how to work on car engines. they don't use V4 engines in cars anymore do they? NO! they haven't for a really long time. and BTW how does an Englishman in New York live in Houston?

[blah]

what? RC45 has always been in Houston. Secondly hes not from England hes from South Africa.

[RC45]

Originally Posted by zevolv I learned about them through reading magazines taking engine specialist classes and working on cars with my dad since I was like ten. and racing bikes would never use a V engine it would weigh too much they just use really large V-twins. The only bike with a 4 cylinder engine is a honda which uses the Civic engine.

I am sure you don't care for this topic anymore.

It simply showed you up for what you are - a bullshitter - with a greasy oil rag...

The only bike with a 4 cylinder engine is a honda which uses the Civic engine?

If after all your ASE training you still make uneducated claims like this - I wouldn't want you cleaning my windshield - let alone trying to work on my Z... or my Honda V4 bike - or my parallel twin Yamaha... you do know what parallel twins are - right?

I can't wait to hear you bogus answer to "what is a 2 stroke engine?" question... or perhaps - "Which is correct - 2 stroke or 2 cycle"

[RC45]

Originally Posted by deth hehe....*sniff* *sniff*....smoke?..............flame war?

Nah - I have too much respect for JW to pollute it with a flame war - just that I hate people spreading bogus information on the forums like it is gospel...

[mhn3773]

hey Rc what is a parallel twin if u wouldnt mind explaining it to me..i have never head that term used before..im off to search google right now

[zevolv]

Originally Posted by blah what? RC45 has always been in Houston. Secondly hes not from England hes from South Africa.

Read his avatar

[RC45]

Originally Posted by mhn3773 hey Rc what is a parallel twin if u wouldnt mind explaining it to me..i have never head that term used before..im off to search google right now

Think of the engine layout as "side by side" cylinders - as apposed to behind each other.

Parallel is a term often used to describe the "across the frame" layout of a twin cylinder bike engine, since the cylinders are parallel to each other... as apposed to the "inline-4" term that is popularly used to describe "across the frame" 4 cylinder bikes... (some very early bikes used a true front to back inline 4 cylinder layout - but we are talking in the early 20th century here )

The most successful V4 bikes have taken the across the frame inline 4 and pulled alternate cylinders forwards and backwards to form the V - running across the frame, as apposed to the typical longitudinal V6 or V8 layout used in cars.

The V could be anywhere from a small 45 degree angle to a wide 90 degree V.

This V may might even be placed with one bank of cylinders parallel to the ground plane, and one perpendicular - as they tried to find the optimum position.

Honda had a very successful inline-6 cylinder in the 1000cc Honda CBX about 20 years ago - Honda have often used a flat 4 - and now use a flat-6 design in a couple bikes.

During the mid-80's Honda had a very successful V3 500cc race bike, that spawned a V3 400cc street bike. Again the V is across the frame instead of longitudinal - as the few bikes (Moto-Guzzi comes to mind -as well as the pig-iron Honda CX500) that have had the V in the longitudinal orientation, have handled like pigs due to the weird harmonics that V layout induces.

I have ridden a couple of CX500's - they suck.

Although Honda have gone and used a longitudinal V4 in a few of their bikes - just to prove that with the correct balancing - they could do it.

Bikes have had pretty much every engine layout imaginable - singles, across the frame twins, V-twins, across the frame triples, V3's, inline 4's, V4's, V5's, V6's, flat 6's, a few experimental V8's and Honda's own oval pistoned V4 NR - whose layout used 2 con rods per per piston, 2 plus and 8 valves per cylinder - looking exactly like a V8 with the pistons of adjacent cylinders siamesed together to form an oval.

Suzuki even had a very succesful square 4 500cc two stroke - basically two parallel twins, with their own crank shafts geared together (Arial had a square 4 in the 1950's as well).

Yamaha also had a very good V4 2 stroke that also used 2 crank shafts.

No student of engines and motive power could NOT be interested in motorcycle engines...

[pimrusis]

It is really funny that one drunken keystroke caused all of this.

[zevolv]

you must admit things were learned by it though