Honda VS THE BIG RED

[bmwfreak]

Originally Posted by 5vz-fe 1 Year for Formula 1 Developement at Mclaren 300million pounds Michellin Racing Tires 1000 each Drivers Salary at Mclaren 5million pounds Blowing up every race so far for 2004 for Kimi........PRICELESS There's something money can buy, but for blowups there's Kimi's Mclaren 0X

Indeed, priceless. The whole left bank, up in flames. Somebody on another thread somewhere was wondering where to get a video of an engine failure. JUst get the Bahrain, Malaysian and Australian GP highlights. (=

[SFDMALEX]

Originally Posted by sentra_dude Originally Posted by ae86_16v Yeah, but Toyota is spending A LOT of money to buy a championship. This years team will be around 500million dollars, right up there with Ferrari. You're delusional...Ferrari's budget is ~330million US dollars and Toyota's is around 300 million...not 500million.

Those press numbers are as accurate as fuck knows what.

Just like everyone is saying that Ferrari is paying scumi 30mil....gimme a break.

we will not know teams real budgets just like we dont know real HP figures.

[ae86_16v]

Originally Posted by sentra_dude Originally Posted by ae86_16v Yeah, but Toyota is spending A LOT of money to buy a championship. This years team will be around 500million dollars, right up there with Ferrari. You're delusional...Ferrari's budget is ~330million US dollars and Toyota's is around 300 million...not 500million.

At the beginning of the season, news reports were saying $500 million. Now it seems like around $400 million (US Dollars). It also seems like that the one engine rule is helping to reduce cost.

http://www.fastmachines.com/archives/f1/001603.php

http://www.bized.ac.uk/current/mind/2003_4/080304.htm

http://forum.racesimcentral.com/prin...d.php?t=143694

[SPEEDCORE]

Originally Posted by ae86_16v Originally Posted by SPEEDCORE The way things are currently heading I dont see Honda winning with BAR anytime soon... Toyota on the other hand might become a Top 4 within 5years and maybe win within 10years, How do you figure? BAR is doing really well so far. . .

Yeah cause McLaren hasnt been on the ball, these past few races. If McLaren wasnt having this bad run would BAR still of made the top3??? F1 is always amazing, winning championships one season, struggling the next. Honda need to be more commited in F1(will they even still be there next year?) and then I can say that they have a chance to win in the next few years. Winning cause the top runs are DNF is one thing(eg: Panis Monaco 96), Winning Beating the top runners running is quite another.

McLaren are just having a bad spell but Im sure they will bounce back by San Marino. Ferrari last year started bad and I dont have to tell you who ended up winning

Its good to see teams moving upto Ferrari's level not making Ferrari go down to thiers.

[ae86_16v]

Originally Posted by SPEEDCORE Originally Posted by ae86_16v Originally Posted by SPEEDCORE The way things are currently heading I dont see Honda winning with BAR anytime soon... Toyota on the other hand might become a Top 4 within 5years and maybe win within 10years, How do you figure? BAR is doing really well so far. . . Yeah cause McLaren hasnt been on the ball, these past few races. If McLaren wasnt having this bad run would BAR still of made the top3??? F1 is always amazing, winning championships one season, struggling the next. Honda need to be more commited in F1(will they even still be there next year?) and then I can say that they have a chance to win in the next few years. Winning cause the top runs are DNF is one thing(eg: Panis Monaco 96), Winning Beating the top runners running is quite another. McLaren are just having a bad spell but Im sure they will bounce back by San Marino. Ferrari last year started bad and I dont have to tell you who ended up winning Its good to see teams moving upto Ferrari's level not making Ferrari go down to thiers.

Two 3rd places for Jenson. Beat out Renault and Williams BMW. Either way you look at it, they have a very competitive package right now. And no one is even close to Ferrari. But in terms of the rest of the field I am will to replace both McLaren and Renualt with BAR and put BAR right up there w/ Williams BMW.