MB vs BMW

[Sir_GT]

Originally Posted by SPEEDKILLAR Originally Posted by Sir_GT Regarding Merc's... I own two. A classic 280SL and a C-class. My dad owned a merc too. My late grandfather owned several (including the old CL's, which we've tried to maintain) ...and I'll tell you, based on my experience, Mercedes-Benz TODAY is only a shadow of Mercedes-Benz BEFORE. Ever since the DaimlerChrysler merger, everything turned into shit. You have a CLK which "hands" the driver his seatbelt, while a much more expensive CL which does not. Why is that? Why pay more for a GT which does not pamper you? Do you know that both the CLK and the CL do not have driver memory? This may sound trivial, but because the seats are electronically operated, once a rather short human uses the car before you, and sets the seat that way, you will have a VERY difficult time getting the seat back to the way you want. Why? Because it doesn't have driver memory. :roll: You have lots of plastic in a pricey E-class, and an almost Ford-level build quality in the C-class. You have plastic in the SLR... why? Why is that? Why sell the SL without a manual? Why make supercharged cars without a manual, or at least a paddle-shift? Why go down market when you're regarded as a classy manufacturer? What was the point in the A-class? Isn't the C-class enough? To give people their first taste of MB? If that's the case, why destroy their trial with a plastic interior and a shit ride? Why make delivery vans and then pass them off as passenger vans? Why? etc. etc. etc. Mercedes has LONG forgotten where they came from. The racing lineage which they once proudly stood for. They have turned into Ford, just with more brand presence... something which they proudly abuse to no end. They have lost ALL passion. They have simply become a profit-turning machine. Blah. Next time you want to ride in luxury, go take a peek into the Audi or BMW showroom instead. But if you want the best BRAND NAME in the auto industry, then by all means, buy a Merc. Unless they regain sight of WHO they were in the past, the shoddiness of their products will continue. The end. PICS or STFU.

Which ones? The 280SL and the CL? (unless you're also interested in a boring C200 )PM me your email, I'll be glad to send them to you.

[T-Bird]

/\/\ why not post them here for all to see? wouldn't that be easier?

[ahmedgiyab]

Yeah! Everyone is interested!

[Sir_GT]

Originally Posted by ahmedgiyab I don't know about the old CL....but mine has a driver memory....(if you mean the personal adjustment of the steering wheel, e. seat, mirrors).... Maybe the specifications here aren't the same as there.....

Which CL do you own? CL500? or the 600? We checked out a 500 at a local showroom and there was no driver memory.

The supercharged MBs have paddle shift gears....(buttons at the back of the wheel)....

Normally, I wouldn't place those two in the same category, (buttons which pick from an automatic transmission... etc. etc., but that's a different topic altogether) but I think I'll focus on this bit:

One thing is true....newer MB models are not as reliable as in the 80s-90s......but still they are more reliable than BMWs in any category....

I actually agree with you on this. I'm not saying Bimmer's are not reliable, but Mercs are just a little bit more.

[ahmedgiyab]

Late 2001 CL500...but with the 600's spec.....

[SPEEDKILLAR]

^^^^^^^Post pics of all Mercs you got, I love them all

[amanthapar]

SIR GT ... THOSE ARE OPTIONAL EXTRAS...

[Sir_GT]

I don't have any where to post the pics, but if somebody's willing to host them, let me know, I'll email you as soon as I get them.

It's saturday moring over here at the moment, and I'll be home sunday. I'll take them as soon as I get home.

I'm surprised people don't believe that I have an old SL. It's not the gullwing anyway, so its not exactly a big deal.

Now if you're looking for the "several" my late grandad owned, forget it. They're all gone. Only the CL's are left.

[Sir_GT]

Originally Posted by amanthapar SIR GT ... THOSE ARE OPTIONAL EXTRAS...

Hey, don't hate on me. I asked if there was an option (for driver memory), and the chap said no.

Continue on with the topic anyway. I'll get the pics as soon as I get home.

[SPEEDKILLAR]

Originally Posted by Sir_GT I don't have any where to post the pics, but if somebody's willing to host them, let me know, I'll email you as soon as I get them. It's saturday moring over here at the moment, and I'll be home sunday. I'll take them as soon as I get home. I'm surprised people don't believe that I have an old SL. It's not the gullwing anyway, so its not exactly a big deal. Now if you're looking for the "several" my late grandad owned, forget it. They're all gone. Only the CL's are left.

I think TT could help you or give you advise.

[amanthapar]

kk..
sir gt what are u american?

[T-Bird]

he's definitely not from the US since it's still Friday afternoon on this side of the world

[Sir_GT]

Nope. I'm half European, half Asian.


Speedkillar: let me get the pics first chap.

T-bird: I posted the same post (on the first page) because I felt the answer could be used in both threads.

Anyway. Catch you all later.

[Sir_GT]

One last thing...

Proof that the 5 series is better than the E-class

...and of all people to have said it, it was Clarkson!!!

[ahmedgiyab]

Originally Posted by Sir_GT One last thing... Proof that the 5 series is better than the E-class ...and of all people to have said it, it was Clarkson!!!

I don't know much about the E320 CDI....but I read about the 530d...which is

great!!! Because these are disel cars....tourqe is the main issue....both

models have the same 500Nm....BMW(218) has more Bhp then MB(204)...

I would buy a 530i for the same money....but then the E320 is better for

me...