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05-23-2006, 05:49 PM
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My auties 1972 Mini Copper is better than an M3... 
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01-02-2007, 05:49 PM
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the problem with tiff's review is it wasn't a proper ROAD test. He was mostly concerned with its performance on the track. The Z06 is obviously surreal on the track.... but thats it. Even as an occasional drive in traffic it is unbearable at best which is why I argue that it is actually very poor value for the money.
Think about it, if you spent the $120,000 to buy a 911 turbo you would get an unbelievable track car that you could use as a daily driver and enjoy it in all conditions. If you bought a z06 for the $75,000 it would cost you would then be hard pressed to find a daily drove with the same sporting and luxury that you are offered in the 911. Of course this doesn't even include other factors such as resale value and build quality.
Ironically the Z06 IMO just demonstrates why americans still cannot get cars right. Its always one extreme or the other. You either get a great track car thats brutal on an actual road or you get a big heavy powerful car that is utterly useless if braking or handling is required. European cars get the prices they do because they manage to combine great performance with great driving
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01-02-2007, 05:57 PM
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Tiff feels the greatest car in the world is the McLaren F1. How is it possible to hate a guy with a judiciousbalanced opinion like that - right Nth? 
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01-02-2007, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by chris29
the problem with tiff's review is it wasn't a proper ROAD test. He was mostly concerned with its performance on the track. The Z06 is obviously surreal on the track.... but thats it. Even as an occasional drive in traffic it is unbearable at best which is why I argue that it is actually very poor value for the money.
Think about it, if you spent the $120,000 to buy a 911 turbo you would get an unbelievable track car that you could use as a daily driver and enjoy it in all conditions. If you bought a z06 for the $75,000 it would cost you would then be hard pressed to find a daily drove with the same sporting and luxury that you are offered in the 911. Of course this doesn't even include other factors such as resale value and build quality.
Ironically the Z06 IMO just demonstrates why americans still cannot get cars right. Its always one extreme or the other. You either get a great track car thats brutal on an actual road or you get a big heavy powerful car that is utterly useless if braking or handling is required. European cars get the prices they do because they manage to combine great performance with great driving
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Breaking the rules of the thread? well, you did mention something about ol' Shitty Tiff Needel
So... if the Z06 is so undrivable on the road, how com ethere are so many Z06's driven EVERY DAY on the road... i'm not talking 10's, but 1000's! Perhaps your view is as misdirected as the journalists who said the CGT's clutch is tricky?? So much is lost in the press-core's hands to translate it for the enthusiast who may never sit in one, let alone drive...
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01-02-2007, 06:04 PM
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tiff has changed Alot! ....
maybe because viki dosnt like him anymore haaha 
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01-02-2007, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sameerrao
Tiff feels the greatest car in the world is the McLaren F1. How is it possible to hate a guy with a judiciousbalanced opinion like that - right Nth? |
because he hasn't contemplated owning one
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01-02-2007, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dani_d_mas
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LOL!
He's still a racing driver
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01-02-2007, 07:39 PM
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$75,000 it would cost you would then be hard pressed to find a daily drove with the same sporting and luxury that you are offered in the 911. Of course this doesn't even include other factors such as resale value and build quality.
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But then again, for the 45000 dollar difference between the two you could buy a very good daily driver, hell for that you could buy a 3 series bmw for daily.
Tiff is a great racing driver and a hell of a showmen..
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01-02-2007, 08:45 PM
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Tiff is a great racing driver and a hell of a showmen..
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Well said!
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01-03-2007, 06:02 PM
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I hate his voice
He was saying that the 599 GTB sucks 
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01-04-2007, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by saadie
tiff has changed Alot! ....
maybe because viki dosnt like him anymore haaha |
you mean men anymore
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