07-13-2005, 02:30 AM
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The Ridgeline and Element are by far the biggest money makers right now.
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Thats the most painful thing i've ever heard (Damb that Element).  Honda is not a dumb company, but just a little too conservative. They just need a car that'll push a boundary in technology that doesn't base everything on their V-TEC engines.
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07-13-2005, 02:31 AM
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To me the NSX was the japanese supercar and abit of a ledgend. When watching BMI even tho its only 280BHP it can still keep up, and even beat the more powered Ferrari's and so on. Its a car where balance and handling was almost perfect I think, so I don't really think Honda need to stress too hard about making and a engine much more powerful than the NSX. Either way its gonna be good seeing what they will come up with.
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07-13-2005, 02:36 AM
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The issue i have is that the only way you could see the potential that Honda's NSX and S2000 had were from the aftermarket tuners. The 3.2 in the NSX could have come from the factory with 400hp reliably and NA if they decided to push some limits on the car, and thats after the drop of the 280hp agreement. BM is also not a very reliable look at the NSX since they had their best driver always driving it, and i'm sure if they had put him in a 360 for every race then the 360 would always pull out on top.
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07-13-2005, 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by gobs3z
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The Ridgeline and Element are by far the biggest money makers right now.
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Thats the most painful thing i've ever heard (Damb that Element).  Honda is not a dumb company, but just a little too conservative. They just need a car that'll push a boundary in technology that doesn't base everything on their V-TEC engines.
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Haha you have to admit the Element is GREAT value! AWD, great options, lots of space, good fuel economy for cars like it, cheap insurance, very low maintenance, will run forever... al for around 19k! I am even considering one myself. Its one of the best values on the road, no wonder they are selling so many.
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07-13-2005, 02:40 AM
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Thats the only car i wish they had been conservative with the looks, and i 100% agree with you on the value but i cannot see beyond the looks so it will always sadden me. :cry: haha
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07-13-2005, 11:01 AM
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they should take the VW road and mesh two acura RL V6 engines together to create a honda supercar, but at the same time develop a V10 for the NSX replacement in spirit of F1 involvement; so many car companies are expanding their fleets, why not honda/acura; and no, building SUVs and pickups does not quite count as expanding your fleet in my book, especially for a company with such a rich F1 heritage
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07-13-2005, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by szumszer
and no, building SUVs and pickups does not quite count as expanding your fleet in my book, especially for a company with such a rich F1 heritage
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Yeah I agree, and sadly I’m sure what we will be seeing from Honda is a lot more hybrids. That is true from everyone. Both GM and Ford are blaming there poor sales on the fact that they do not have enough fuel efficient, and hybrid models. Ford is scrambling to get out their new Hybrid SUV, I think it’s a ranger. But they said they will only get 2,000 built in 05 so that wont even make a tiny dint in their sales problem. Regardless if high gas prices are a real problem or not people are perceiving it to be a real issue and changing the kinds of cars they are buying. Its kind of a sad period in autos in some ways because hybrids are going to be main stream from all makers regardless if we like it or not.
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07-13-2005, 09:09 PM
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