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Old 06-01-2005, 03:56 AM   #16
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as far as i can tell this car is right on. Its a family car. Thats it, its for some 40 year old guy to drive to work and to drive his kids around.
Except the Camry does this better and cheaper and with a better resale value ad a proven track record.
My choice would be the accord in this group. The camry is so damn dull, as is the ford, but the honda atleast has the Powa.
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Old 06-01-2005, 08:41 AM   #17
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Unfortunately it also inherited that unique Volvo quality - blandness ...
True, but Ford don't need input from Volvo to make a bland car. They are able to pull that of on their own IMO basic Fords are way blander than basic Volvos.

It has inherited some looks from the Mondeo, but something has gone wrong in the process. By stretching it they have managed to make it look even more boring.
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Old 06-01-2005, 12:14 PM   #18
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Well I will be getting a new car in November or December and I really want AWD and want to keep it under 25k. There is not a lot in this market that is not a full out SUV. My short list so far is –

WRX
Turbo Forester
Honda Element (because it’s very cheap, AWD, and you get a lot for your money).

As you can see I don’t really care about looks because I personally consider every one of these cars to be ugly. The Ford 500 does not make my list because it’s too heavy and has too weak of an engine.
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Old 06-01-2005, 12:42 PM   #19
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currently under development under the lincoln brand is CD3... coded for the future name of Zephyr... (IMO terrible name)... based on the same architecture of the 500.

the 3.5 liter duratec v6 will eventually make its way into it... as will the hybrid gas-electric.

reliability shouldn't be an issue

as mentioned earlier, the 500 is for old people
I was under impression that the '06 Lincoln Zephyr was a Mazda 6 spinoff...it certainly has the same front-drive architecture, basic chassis proportions and mildly detuned (210bhp) 3.0L V6.


The CD3 is actually Ford's new midsize platform...shared by the Mazda 6, Lincoln Zephyr, Ford Fusion and Mercury Milan. The 500 does not share this platform. Rather it is a spinoff of the Volvo S80.
:roll: blame my partial drunkenness last night... it is based on the mozda 6/ford fusion
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Old 06-01-2005, 02:31 PM   #20
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lol...no worries man
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Old 06-02-2005, 12:05 AM   #21
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Originally Posted by nthfinity
currently under development under the lincoln brand is CD3... coded for the future name of Zephyr... (IMO terrible name)... based on the same architecture of the 500.
Whats wrong with the name? its a classic linclon name.
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Originally Posted by Global Hemisphere
Well I will be getting a new car in November or December and I really want AWD and want to keep it under 25k. There is not a lot in this market that is not a full out SUV. My short list so far is –

WRX
Turbo Forester
Honda Element (because it’s very cheap, AWD, and you get a lot for your money).

As you can see I don’t really care about looks because I personally consider every one of these cars to be ugly. The Ford 500 does not make my list because it’s too heavy and has too weak of an engine.
Have you considered buying second hand?
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Originally Posted by Gnome
Originally Posted by Global Hemisphere
Well I will be getting a new car in November or December and I really want AWD and want to keep it under 25k. There is not a lot in this market that is not a full out SUV. My short list so far is –

WRX
Turbo Forester
Honda Element (because it’s very cheap, AWD, and you get a lot for your money).

As you can see I don’t really care about looks because I personally consider every one of these cars to be ugly. The Ford 500 does not make my list because it’s too heavy and has too weak of an engine.
Have you considered buying second hand?
No. I will be getting a new car.
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Old 06-02-2005, 08:07 PM   #24
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Actually I take that back. I still probably won’t do it because I like to have a warranty especially on a 25k car. The thing about used cars is most of the time all repairs after the first month are 100% on you. Anyway I would still be interested in used AWD car suggestions.
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Old 06-02-2005, 08:51 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by Global Hemisphere
Actually I take that back. I still probably won’t do it because I like to have a warranty especially on a 25k car. The thing about used cars is most of the time all repairs after the first month are 100% on you. Anyway I would still be interested in used AWD car suggestions.
uh?

If you buy a used car with remainder of factory warranty you don't have to pay for repairs.. that's the point of warrantees... the only thing they don't cover is windows.. virtual or real.
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