Opel Signum 3.0 V6 CDTI for 5 days

[LotusGT1]

Originally Posted by RC45 There it is again. See - you people are so uptight. I have a serious doubt that most of you folks act this way in real life. All judgemental and superior like.

You talking about being judgemental, oh this is getting funny....

[topgeartom]

Originally Posted by LotusGT1 Tsskk, it's like talking to a brick wall....

Exactly, no matter how credible the point you put forward is, you can bet your cock RC will try and discount it or worm hs way out of the argument. If i hadnt seen pictures of his daughter and such, i would seriously contest his proposed age. He wildly claims that we are all imature and trying to proove something about our mental age? It is RC who needs to fucking grow up. Chum .

[TT]

Sorry, but diesel ARE noisier and smell MUCH worse than petrol engines. And most important.. the fucking microparticles.. they should enforce the damn filters at least. A diesel car produces MANY (thousands times more I think) micro particles than petrol engines.. and those damn things can enter your blood through your lungs.. it is just scary.

But beside that, even if some top of the line diesel engines are pretty quiet (still noway near a good petrol one), their smell is always the same and when I am in a city like Milano or Paris where diesel cars are much more common, I really smell the difference

[topgeartom]

Originally Posted by TT Sorry, but diesel ARE noisier and smell MUCH worse than petrol engines. And most important.. the fucking microparticles.. they should enforce the damn filters at least. A diesel car produces MANY (thousands times more I think) micro particles than petrol engines.. and those damn things can enter your blood through your lungs.. it is just scary. But beside that, even if some top of the line diesel engines are pretty quiet (still noway near a good petrol one), their smell is always the same and when I am in a city like Milano or Paris where diesel cars are much more common, I really smell the difference

i actually fully agree with you. I am not arguing that diesles are better than their petrol counterparts. I would take a petrol car, over a diesel ANYDAY.

I'm just arguing that RC's being a bit of a prat and is coming out with some appalingly shit comments which he is masquerading as arguments.

[LotusGT1]

I'm pretty much done with this thread :roll:

[RC45]

Originally Posted by LotusGT1 I never attacked TT, I simply stated he was wrong, and he is. Current diesels are NOT more noisy or smellier than their petrol counterparts, give or take very few bad examples.

Seems you are wrong.

Originally Posted by LotusGT1 So what is your fucking point ?

The point? You jumped the gun claiming that TT's opinion was based on incorrect facts. His opinion was based on correct facts - and a driving test.

That's my point.

Originally Posted by LotusGT1 You should realise one day that your opinion is not equal to facts, as you supposedly think. For a 36-year old that's quite pathetic behaviour...

I never claimed any opinion was fact - I simply stated you over reacted to deriding TT's comments as child like because you thought they were not based on facts.

Interesting take on "for a 36 year old" behaviour. Just because I read and understand someones opion (which was fact based) and you don't - you get all huffy and angry, and I don't - but merely point out that the first poster was in fact correct - and you were wrong.

Originally Posted by LotusGT1 I think I have a fair grasp of what the term redneck means,

See - thats where you are wrong again, rooinek (red neck) has various meanings - and I choose to not take offense at it because I am in fact, by definition, a rooinek. I, however am no closer to a "red neck" in your terms than you are.

Originally Posted by LotusGT1 and I give a flying fuck what your vein about it is. Never put words in my mouth, you know damn well what I meant. And you haven't provided anything to make me think otherwise...

It's not just my "vein" chum - it's an accepted definition... And no - do not know what you meant - as I don't come anything close to resembling a white rural laboring class in the southern United States having a provincial, conservative, often bigoted attitude .

Originally Posted by LotusGT1 Simply put, the C6 review was wrong ?? Ahahahahhaha. TG is just as opinionated as TT was, only this time you actually liked what was said. Don't BS any further, and for crying out loud, get your head out of your arse, and come with some actual facts...

Wow - you sure do harbour and retain a lot of anger and hatred - you been keeping this all bottled up viz-a-viz the TG C6 review just waiting for an opportunity to throw it in my face? You need to take a laxitive old chap. And what facts would you like to have?

Originally Posted by LotusGT1 You have a poor way with words if that's your grasp of my first post. You can't be correct on your points, you didn't make any...

They werer your words - not mine, perhaps you need to adjust what you say if you want people to know what you mean.

Originally Posted by LotusGT1 RC, I give rats ass about your perogative on me, your 15-25 analyses (creative, I have to say), but open your fucking eyes... Tsskk, it's like talking to a brick wall....

All the anger and bitterness?

Originally Posted by topgeartom I'm just arguing that RC's being a bit of a prat and is coming out with some appalingly shit comments which he is masquerading as arguments.

But that's the point - there is no argument - Lotus simply didn't like the fact that his counter to TT wasn't simply accepted by everyone - and the fcat that I of all people dare to counter his view point sent him off the deep end.


Back to topic at hand - the Open Signum diesel is a poor counterpart to it's petrol stablemate.

[topgeartom]

Originally Posted by brembo LOL @ this thread....once again you have managed to piss people off RC, hell you even lured our dear innocent Tom into this..... :agrue: Well since I am more than 25 years old Im safe then...lol.... well I kind of agree with both sides...that being TT and Lotus.... TT got a bit carried away there for awhile and Lotus called him on it, no need to start WWIII over that TT dont.... when it comes to performance cars and style diesels cant never match a petrol engine thats not the argument either..... Diesels can be great in their own way such as fuel consumption and brute force tourqe wise on a low rpm base.....no petrol engine can match it.... the point of all the millions invested on diesels are kind of not there, as there have been invested just as much money on petrol engines thru times.... RC dont be angry when we catch you on things you have said in the past, wich doesnt match what you preach later, we dont write post it notes to get you later on, its just that we are younger and our memory havnt gone flatline yet......

SENSE! sense at fucking last!

Originally Posted by TT Sorry, but diesel ARE noisier and smell MUCH worse than petrol engines. And most important.. the fucking microparticles.. they should enforce the damn filters at least. A diesel car produces MANY (thousands times more I think) micro particles than petrol engines.. and those damn things can enter your blood through your lungs.. it is just scary. But beside that, even if some top of the line diesel engines are pretty quiet (still noway near a good petrol one), their smell is always the same and when I am in a city like Milano or Paris where diesel cars are much more common, I really smell the difference

Your definately right, particulalry if poorly maintained, even our merc smells a bit sometimes when just started, The eco people argue that diesel is more economic therefore more eco friendly diesel motors are, but convieniently ignore the shit that comes out of the exhaust LOL. Anyone remember motorworld when jeremy was in india?? well it wasn't pleasant!

As for RC well we all know our daewoo owning friend likes to wind people up , its all in good spirit generally IMO and provides some entertainment. The only thing i disagree with is the arguing on age thing, i largely ignore that, especially online.

my point is WHY THE FUCK ARE WE ARGUING ABOUT DIESELS!! LMAO who really gives a fuck, people are allowed to have different opinions and i don't think we will resolve this arguement :roll: Just all of you buy a mini instead fun and economical

[F3ckB9LL]

But the new Astra GTC ! ! looks great .. i love OPEL !!