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10-15-2004, 09:04 PM
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The real top speed champion
The new Shelby cobra if its goes into production is promised to be capable of 265+ mph but on the other hand Veyron is to go 260+ what do you put your money on?
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10-15-2004, 09:23 PM
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BUllshit info. 420kmh needs a good shit load of downforce to be anywere near controllable. Has to be a really wide car. SOmething like the 917.
There is no way that the new cobra is gonna go anywere near that speed. You need shit loads of BHP and a good aero body for some grip......I doubt it will have either.
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10-15-2004, 09:28 PM
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where did u get that info about the cobra!?!?
doesn't sound too likely to me....
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10-15-2004, 09:37 PM
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I didn´t know that info, but IMO neither of those cars are going to do more than 260 mph. 
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10-15-2004, 09:39 PM
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I'm just running off site rumors.
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/artma...icle_327.shtml
again here
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2004@$Ford@$Shelby%20Cobra%20Conceptx.html
and here again
http://www.stangnet.com/2005shelbycobraconcept/
Drivetrain
Layout Mid-front engine, rear transmission, rear-wheel-drive
Transmission
Type Ricardo 6-speed transaxle
Gear Ratios Theoretical top speed at redline
1st 2.60:1 64 mph
2nd 1.70:1 98 mph
3rd 1.23:1 135 mph
4th 0.95:1 175 mph
5th 0.76:1 219 mph
6th 0.63:1 267 mph
Reverse 3.14:1
Final Drive 3.36:1 limited slip
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10-15-2004, 09:42 PM
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umm first off the car DOES NOT have a transaxle in it.
And gearing and aerodynamics are two very different things the car may be able to do it if you change the body. And when they were building the car on Rides it appeared to have the tranny on the engine not at the rear.
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10-15-2004, 09:44 PM
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Well theoretical top speed based purely on gearing is not that reliable. First of all it is a roadster so cant be that aero efficient. The car is likely to hit an aerodynamic wall well before that... I mena it is not the first car to pack 500+ horsepower is it and how many other 267 mph cars do we know of in that category ?
We'll see when the car finally comes out...
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10-15-2004, 10:04 PM
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I really dont think that is possible. ME 4 12 maybe?
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10-15-2004, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sameerrao
Well theoretical top speed based purely on gearing is not that reliable. First of all it is a roadster so cant be that aero efficient. The car is likely to hit an aerodynamic wall well before that... I mena it is not the first car to pack 500+ horsepower is it and how many other 267 mph cars do we know of in that category ?
We'll see when the car finally comes out...
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Yep - sounds like they may be about 600hp short to even consider running in that neighbourhood...  ...
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10-15-2004, 11:04 PM
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Instruments include a 220-mph speedometer
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220 mph with 605 bhp isnt unachievable but its pretty unbelievable. They also said it has a theoretical top speed of more than 260mph. I dont know where the hell they pull that bullshit because I dont think this car has a drag coefficient anything different to a normal car. This car could hit 260mph with 605 bhp if it was like the 1930's streamline cars but thats just rediculous
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10-15-2004, 11:04 PM
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Re: The real top speed champion
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Originally Posted by FordGTGuy
The new Shelby cobra if its goes into production is promised to be capable of 265+ mph but on the other hand Veyron is to go 260+ what do you put your money on?
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Umm...and you thought this:
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Based on the engine’s 7,500-rpm redline and the drive ratios, this Ford Shelby Cobra concept has a theoretical top speed of more than 260 mph
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meant "promised" topspeed? :roll: Its a convertible with 600hp dude...think a little bit...
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10-16-2004, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by T-Bird
umm first off the car DOES NOT have a transaxle in it.
And gearing and aerodynamics are two very different things the car may be able to do it if you change the body. And when they were building the car on Rides it appeared to have the tranny on the engine not at the rear.
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um... first of, the Concept DOES have a transaxle in it :roll:
also, if the Ford GT could max out 6th... i believe the ratios are quite similar.
and i dont believe this car could go hugely above 200mph if made a production car, based on aero.
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10-16-2004, 11:05 AM
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top speed based on gear ratios is pure BS. It doesn't consider the drag coeficient, or anything like that. 6th gear in my vette is so tall that it's should hit well into 200.
also the number on the speedometer doesn't mean shit. the speedo in my vette goes up to 200, and there's no way in hell I'm gonna hit tha speed with the stoc power.
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10-16-2004, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by nthfinity
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Originally Posted by T-Bird
umm first off the car DOES NOT have a transaxle in it.
And gearing and aerodynamics are two very different things the car may be able to do it if you change the body. And when they were building the car on Rides it appeared to have the tranny on the engine not at the rear.
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um... first of, the Concept DOES have a transaxle in it :roll:
also, if the Ford GT could max out 6th... i believe the ratios are quite similar.
and i dont believe this car could go hugely above 200mph if made a production car, based on aero. |
How does it have a transaxle? the engine is in the front and the drive wheels are in the back if the trans is in the back it is most likely a seperate unit from the axle in the rear much like on the Corvette where the Tranny and rear differential are sperate and bolted together. you see transaxles in AWD, FWD and Rear/mid engine cars rarely on front engine rear wheel drive cars.
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10-16-2004, 05:57 PM
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sorry didn't mean to start an arguement just wanted to know everyones views.
In my oppinion theirs no way in hell. shit the GT-90 had 1200 hp v-12 and only reached 235 mph.  ops:
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