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Originally Posted by TT
What car do you drive dude?
Around here cars the usual car has less than 100 hp and is diesel powered...
in the small cars dept, the 150-200 hp range is super cool, and ok, there are many Imprezas an so on.. but when a guy dreams about a fast and affordable car, he thinks Renault Clio Williams or in modern days, Clio 172 or Mini Cooper...
Fuel is expensive, taxes and so on are.. and a small hatch or coupé with around 200 hp is a very desirable choice.. over 200 hp is already almost supercar 
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Originally Posted by GIS
agree with u,that stands for the younger people like ourselves anyway.
if i was thinkin bout a quicker car,now,for my age and thinkin bout insurance,it would be a hatchback with around the 150-200hp area,that aint slow in a light car,and suites the UK roads a lot,200hp in a hatch isnt slow,for example,drove a renault 5 turbo with 200hp,u will know what i mean afterwards
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I agree with both of you to.But Here its a bit different.
Most young people between 17-20 usually get 4 cyclindar to either to get around town in,and cheap on petrol because most young people can't afforded a V8 commodore or Falcon,or skyline GTS-T or whatever.
But what bugs me is,when people that are 20-30 that have Pulsars,lancers(non evo)mirages,protons, suzukis and Hondas. Do them up and spend heaps of money of looks,pay other people to do the work etc they think they are king shit.Most of these cars are standard as performance.But they have like 140hp-200hp with huge arse exhaust,wing and things and expensive ineterior and exterior..They sound like fart cans and the drivers have this attidude that they are fuckin awesome.I have nothing wrong with Saxo or cilo done up for real performance.But when people do them up just for looks and become arsewholes on the road, it shits me off.Nodays in Australia,people looked at Import car scene because its really trendy.Nothing wrong with that.But I reckon most people are not orginal now days.Everyone has to be trendy.No one looks outside the square.