04-30-2005, 10:12 AM
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is just me
or i think konisegg ccr is faster then Veyron when the car is finally released.. i am not talking about top speed. i am talking about acceration..
stand still.. obivously buggati is faster due to all wheel drive
but on highway.. i dun think buggati is any faster.. maybe even slower
buggati 1000 hp.. 1900kg+
CCR 800+hp 1200kg
that is like 700kg difference
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04-30-2005, 10:13 AM
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I don't give a shit about the Veyron - at least until it goes into production and some real world tests are done with it
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Originally Posted by ZfrkS62
I even take issue with the SL55 and 600 power levels 
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I think you mean the SL65 AMG which has a twin-turbo 6.0L V12 with over 600hp.....the SL55 only has about 500hp
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04-30-2005, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by twboy1999
is just me
or i think konisegg ccr is faster then Veyron when the car is finally released.. i am not talking about top speed. i am talking about acceration..
stand still.. obivously buggati is faster due to all wheel drive
but on highway.. i dun think buggati is any faster.. maybe even slower
buggati 1000 hp.. 1900kg+
CCR 800+hp 1200kg
that is like 700kg difference
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Well about the standstill part...in TG lambo vs Zonda, Jeremy Clarkson said the Zonda was faster off the line cos the all wheel drive system of the lambo causes the revs to drop much if u just floor it, so u gotta get the revs come up sort of gently to be fast...i dunno if this goes for all allwheeldrive cars, or if JC is just talkin bs, or whatever...
one other thing, the point where the Bugatti is gonna get hurt by its weight the most is acceleration (and corners maybe but im not talkin bout that here  ). Once all that weight is on the move, i think it'll just go on blasting away...
but no matter which one is faster, i'd take the Koenigsegg any day
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04-30-2005, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by BADMIHAI
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Originally Posted by RC45
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Originally Posted by Neema702
i agree with others, i love the fact that it has so much power and such a high price tag... thats what i want a "supercar" to be. i want to be able to see it a few times and go crazy each time, not think to myself: "Oh, there goes another one."
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In other words, just a status symbol - a sort of automotive penis extension ....
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You should know. You drive a Corvette, don't you?
The Veyron is outrageous in every way. It's a Bugatti and that's what it's supposed to be. 
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Hey Bad, didn't you have a buggati four turbo engine in your sig way back in the racingflix days?
I remember fighting with you about the buggati, but don't remember what it was..... that was waaay back in 2003
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04-30-2005, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ZfrkS62
Frankly i think the Veyron is going to be a useless car. Ungodly price tag for unusable power. I even take issue with the SL55 and 600 power levels 
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Originally Posted by sads
Its got tonnes of power tonnes of weight and it will cary around people with tonnes of cash who will realise they should have bought a CGT 
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Nah. i think the two cars attract very different customers.
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Originally Posted by gobs3z
The price tag brings Buggatti exclusivity as well as VW/Audi top of the line engineering and know how.
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So you mean it won;t have any steering feel?
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04-30-2005, 12:17 PM
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Its going to be as good as the SLR... weighing a LOT and performing less than expected.
At least the SLR looks good, this Butatti looks like a turtle inside its shell with only the head out.
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04-30-2005, 12:25 PM
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this Butatti looks like a turtle inside its shell with only the head out.
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 LOL...ur right tho  which isn't good for bugatti
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04-30-2005, 01:14 PM
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The SLR looks completely vulgar imo. Even more so than the Veyron, with that ridiculously long nose and fat arse. The concept was much better looking.
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05-01-2005, 03:16 PM
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It may be fast in a straight line but it won't go round corners!
0-60 it will be difficult to beat, all that weight and all wheel drive will make it have silly traction and enough power to get it to moving quickly. But once above 40-50 mph the Konigseggs greater power to weight will beat it quite considerably! And it will go round corners too!
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05-01-2005, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by gucom
Well about the standstill part...in TG lambo vs Zonda, Jeremy Clarkson said the Zonda was faster off the line cos the all wheel drive system of the lambo causes the revs to drop much if u just floor it, so u gotta get the revs come up sort of gently to be fast...i dunno if this goes for all allwheeldrive cars, or if JC is just talkin bs, or whatever...
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JC was being a b**ch when he drove the Lambo, he said he didn't want to fry the clutch from a standstill which is total BS. I've seen plenty Murc's take off with wheels spinning(faster than JC lazy 1st gear slow take off) from dropping the clutch. It would have been a closer race if he drove it correctly.
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05-01-2005, 09:13 PM
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god, were is everso when you need him........
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05-05-2005, 12:28 PM
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Well about the standstill part...in TG lambo vs Zonda, Jeremy Clarkson said the Zonda was faster off the line cos the all wheel drive system of the lambo causes the revs to drop much if u just floor it, so u gotta get the revs come up sort of gently to be fast...i dunno if this goes for all allwheeldrive cars, or if JC is just talkin bs, or whatever...
one other thing, the point where the Bugatti is gonna get hurt by its weight the most is acceleration (and corners maybe but im not talkin bout that here  ). Once all that weight is on the move, i think it'll just go on blasting away...
but no matter which one is faster, i'd take the Koenigsegg any day[/quote]
Fair choice. Clarkson was right about the acceleration on the AWD. At the end of the last top gear series Clarkson talked about the car briefly and then told everyne that hammond was going to be the one driving it. This didn't make sense at first: Clarkson is all about power and brashness. Then he explained. They have got the power right, but they are having difficulty with the brakes and the steering.
I'd take pretty much any car that didn't have those problems over the Veyron.
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05-05-2005, 02:10 PM
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I donīt know how long they planned the car to make it the best there is, but it have to be 6 years or more. With all the money they invested and that enormous price tag it simply has to be special. And i also donīt think that the steering will be bad or worse than i.e. the one of the Pagani Zonda. The potential customers had to wait so many years as Bugatti even wanted to release it back in 2002 that they mustnīt be disappointed as this would be very bad for Volkswagen. They canīt afford this after a so long time cause they promised that the car is only late because they had to make it perfect. Imagine what would happen if it wonīt be! Volkswagen would maby never build a supercar like this again...
But i really canīt wait for the first test, esp TG  I donīt think that JC would let Hammond drive this sort of car. He was just joking as always.
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05-05-2005, 03:53 PM
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I dont like the Veyron too much, its a powerful car but the design is a bit odd in my opinion.
Iīd prefer 1000x the Gemballa Mirage GT
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05-06-2005, 07:32 AM
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This project has taken too long. I'm not that interested anymore. Impressive power and great looks, but that's it. I think it will be too heavy to handle as it should, too.
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