01-13-2005, 03:22 PM
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BMW E60 M5 manual gearbox ???
I came across this article at m5board.com and I was wondering if someone can confirm or add something to this story.
" Could this really be true? See the screenshot from bmwusa.com site. The rumours could might be true, and then we have a significant news for the Detroit Auto Show. The information first surfaced on a Saturday but all information was then taken down from the BMW USA site the following Sunday. Luckily we at m5board.com took a screenshot if the information. Interesting things are happening for sure for BMW M enthusiasts in North America. "
link: http://www.m5board.com/news.php?id=50
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01-13-2005, 03:42 PM
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Maybe just a mistake.
Or else ... this would be great news
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01-13-2005, 04:38 PM
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i think that may have been mis-interpreted slightly. i think they may be reffering to the fact that it is a 7 speed automated manual transmission. Although the gears are shifted by the SMG control unit, it is still a traditional manual gearbox. Synchros, countershaft and all
however, if a manual gearbox were to be made available for this car, i think they would probably make it a 6 speed box with 6th gear being a severly overdriven gear. the 7th gear on the SMG is mainly to drop revs about 500 more RPM to save fuel on long cruises. i don't think BMW would want to make you have to run through a 7 gate pattern. You might be feeling a bit more like a semitruck driver than a sports car driver after you get into 7th
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01-13-2005, 04:59 PM
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wow.. i would think it's a typo.. but that would sure be some great news... I wonder what BMW has up their sleeve...?
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01-13-2005, 05:01 PM
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True?...not likely
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01-13-2005, 05:05 PM
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i think only mistake for many people not me is semi gearbox,
so now will be M5 without any minus, so Great car is better,
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01-13-2005, 06:06 PM
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they are really offering the maual
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01-13-2005, 07:19 PM
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that would be great news if it was true - like a belated release of the manual - but it was probably just a mistake made by a bmw employee
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01-13-2005, 09:17 PM
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Wow, that would be awesome if it were true. A very nice gift to the automotive community.... and while i'm wishing, maybe deregulate the car so top speed in 5th, 6th, and 7th isn't all the same (155mph).
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01-13-2005, 09:22 PM
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i highly doubt it is true. it is probably a typo or else BMW would have announced it earlier
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01-13-2005, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by everso
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Originally Posted by ZfrkS62
i think that may have been mis-interpreted slightly. i think they may be reffering to the fact that it is a 7 speed automated manual transmission. Although the gears are shifted by the SMG control unit, it is still a traditional manual gearbox. Synchros, countershaft and all 
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YEP.
i'm surprised the M5 people aren't smart enough to understand english....oh wait...i'm not surprised 
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More like wishful thinking on the part of M5 owners...at least BMW doesn't use torque converters on their sporty models, like some other German manufacturers.
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01-13-2005, 09:36 PM
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i think that they meant that the 7 SMG is the same as the traditional manual trans...
but it would be nice if this was true, and compare the manual M5 to SMG M5 in 0 to 60 mph
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01-13-2005, 10:49 PM
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^ that would be an interesting test. and on the subject of gear changing, just saw the 5th gear review of the new GTI, which has the DSG (direct shift) - the thing changes gears soooo fast. awesome technology w/ two clutches (one for even gears, one for odd). put that on some performance cars like the M5... see some real gear shift time-differences.
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01-13-2005, 11:23 PM
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i'm surprised the M5 people aren't smart enough to understand english....oh wait...i'm not surprised
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^ everso, this is simply a conversation there is no need to insult the intelligence of any M5 owners, especially if you own an Audi TT
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01-14-2005, 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by everso
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Originally Posted by c_theodoros
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i'm surprised the M5 people aren't smart enough to understand english....oh wait...i'm not surprised
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^ everso, this is simply a conversation there is no need to insult the intelligence of any M5 owners, especially if you own an Audi TT 
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you can run but you can't hide their lack of intelligence
(psssst. i'll take my TT anyday over their overblown family sedan. thanks for your concern, buddy  )
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You will take a TT over an M5...e39 or e60? lol...ok, you do that, I will take the e39 M5 thanks.
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