Car & Driver S6 vs M5 (manual) vs E63 AMG

[Just_me]

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C&D dislike the manual a lot and gave the m5 last place mostly cause of the manual.

Here are C&D numbers for M5 with SMG. M5 SMG is faster than the manual version.

from C&D

M5 SMG
0-60 in 4.2 sec
0-100 in 9.4 sec
0-150 in 20.7 sec
1/4mile 12.5@118

M5 Manual
0-60 in 4.7 sec
0-100 in 10.3 sec
0-150 in 23.4 sec
1/4mile 13.0@114

[kksh]

WTF? How come the manual came in much slower? Better read about it. Thanks!

[ViperASR]

wow, that really sucks about the DSG, it seems like it would be much better if they could turn it completely off, and BMW just strengthen a few of the weaker parts as to not trash the car. That is honestly, the only real reason the the new M5 isnt god to me, the SMG.
Anyway, thanks for the scans as my issue of C&D hasnt yet arrived.

[Zot09]

Thanks for the scans Just_me!

[5vz-fe]

Super duper thanks Just_me!!

[yg60m]

Thanks for the scans mate :wink:

[Just_me]

wow, that really sucks about the DSG, it seems like it would be much better if they could turn it completely off, and BMW just strengthen a few of the weaker parts as to not trash the car. That is honestly, the only real reason the the new M5 isnt god to me, the SMG.
Anyway, thanks for the scans as my issue of C&D hasnt yet arrived.

with SMG you can turn it off completly but not with manual. SMG is the only way to go and you will appreciate it more you try it. No manual M5 for me.

[TopGearNL]

Reminds me of the Porsche Turbo, the manual is slower :?

[inso]

997tt manual is not as much slower. Looks like it is mostly software fault and should be updateable.

Thanks for the scans, made look for cheap cars in US Ebay.. Dollar is really so cheap, that buying overseas is really an option.

[r2r]

thanx. always nice to read about such car comparison.

S6 would be my choice from this group. it just looks so dam good.

[Shinigami]

I'd take the AMG. As it's a saloon made for easy driving, the automatic would provide the most comfortable and chillest drive. Just set it and forget it.

[Just_me]

in latest Motortrend there is a comparison between S6, M5 and E63

1. S6
2. M5
3. E63

funny how different carmags dont think alike :D

[bmwmpower]

yeah,but funny is to sort car by trunk space

[NBTBRV8]

Thanks for the scans, keep up the good work

[sameerrao]

Thanks for the scans!

[Guibo]

WTF? How come the manual came in much slower? Better read about it. Thanks!
It loses a gear to the SMG. That has consequences in torque multiplication and being able to maintain the engine near peak power coming off of shifts. The SMG box also allows no-lift full throttle upshifts and combined with the automated gearchanges is likely to be quicker than most people can manage with a manual. (Also partly why the Tiptronic Turbo can be faster than the manual: with the gas pedal floored even through gearchanges, the turbos are always spooled.)

Shame about the electronics, but I'd imagine this M5 would still be an incredibly satisfying drive on most winding roads short of a 10/10ths pace. I'm not sure I'd pass up the SMG tranny though.

[Just_me]

Manual, SMG or DSG - the auto' E63 AMG is the one I'd take! :wink: :P

Hell no!!!

[TopGearNL]

^ shut up - you're obviously biased!! :D :wink:

Just look at the Avatar :P

Thanks for the scans!

[Just_me]

^ shut up - you're obviously biased!! :D :wink:

automatics are so unmodern, luckily AMG know this therefore they are working with a DSG system for future AMG's. No need to be biased to understand DSG is the future in performance cars....just common sense. If I'm biased then you are blind :wink: