Germany World cup 2006

[antonioledesma]

It is strange that none of the JW's members that like and looove football (not soccer :P) haven't posted something more about the World Cup

So, until now only one result that was a real surprise, Ecuador 2-0 Poland :? That result made a lot of ppl loose some money... like me! :lol:
the game was entertaining while I was eating.

Germany had some troubles with Costa Rica, but then CR was easy as a pie. Not a bad game, but it could get better.

sweden vs Trinidad & Tobago, didn't see it all the 90 minutes, but I was bored the whole 15 minutes I saw.

right now Argentina is winning 2-0 vs Cote d'Ivoir in a really entertaining game. Those "ches" sure look to be at the top 6 in this world cup.

I'm really expecting to see tomorrow's game: Netherlands vs Serbia& Montenegro :D Go NL!!!

and... Mexico, I hope they win against Iran, but it won't be an easy game :|

So... how do you see France and Spain? countries which have dissapointed a LOT.

any more comments?
no? then I'll postwhore here :wink:

[DeMoN]

dont you know that gambling is illegal?

[gucom]

thx for the support for NL 8) :) and T&T totally ROCKED :D i loved it, their (fans' )response when the game ended 0-0 was awesome, and the swede's response was LOL :mrgreen: :P
i think the netherlands should be able to beat serbia montenegro (BTW, would this be the first time a no longer existing state is represented in the world championship?? :P ), but i dont see NL getting further than the quarter / semi finals... i wouldnt mind seeing brazil win :) (OR T&T ofcourse :P )

[SFDMALEX]

I havent posted anything since JW seems to be low in sports fans.


The few sports threads get very little responce here :(

[Darkel]

So... how do you see France and Spain? countries which have dissapointed a LOT.

Pfoh, with Cisse hurt during the match vs China (he won't be able to play for the next 5 months) and some "old" players (world champions in 98 but hell, that was 8 years ago :roll: ) ... seeing them in the second round would already be a nice achievement compared to the last disaster in 2002 :bah:

The Netherlands have always had a nice team but never made it to the final since 1978; who knows ...

[gucom]

lol we didnt even make it to the championship last time round :)

[antonioledesma]

dont you know that gambling is illegal?
not where I live :roll:

thx for the support for NL 8) :) and T&T totally ROCKED :D i loved it, their (fans' )response when the game ended 0-0 was awesome, and the swede's response was LOL :mrgreen: :P
i think the netherlands should be able to beat serbia montenegro (BTW, would this be the first time a no longer existing state is represented in the world championship?? :P ), but i dont see NL getting further than the quarter / semi finals... i wouldnt mind seeing brazil win :) (OR T&T ofcourse :P )

NL was my choice when I saw Marco Van Basten, Gulliut, etc etc play. That was a great NL team. Because countries where our teams will never reach the finals, have a favorite, you imagine Brazil, Argentina, Italy, France and other couple big teams, being the favorites of lots and lots of ppl

also it's funny to see S&M play when that country no longer exists with that name :mrgreen: but it is a dangerous team. All those balcanic countries can win over any european country and then loose against mediocre team

And with T&T it was a big surprise. I've just seen the match's resume and the red card... wasn't :? Leo Benhakker has really worked a lot with that poor guys,

Pfoh, with Cisse hurt during the match vs China (he won't be able to play for the next 5 months) and some "old" players (world champions in 98 but hell, that was 8 years ago :roll: ) ... seeing them in the second round would already be a nice achievement compared to the last disaster in 2002 :bah:

I don't see France at semi, the base team is getting old. Zidane hasn't been in the required rythm in the last year. The rest of the team isn't the best in the last years

Also, Argentina has won 2-1 against Ivory Coast. good game, but again those hateful argentinian tactics appeared and in the first game :|

[DeMoN]

My guess, ppl here are more conserned to see F1 than FIFA lol. At least I am.

[DeMoN]

Maybe this will spice things up...

Brazilian BABES!
http://www.break.com/worldcup2006/brazilliangirls10.html

more worldcup vids...

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[gucom]

DUDE DEMON!! WOW im gonna get me a ticket there just in case they win the world cup, i wanna see those girls go mad :D :D :D

[DeMoN]

^ if they go to the beaches like that, imagine under alcohol! (Ive gone to Brazil and damn they tan porno!)

[antonioledesma]

so... what do you think about these first matches?
i liked NL's game strategy, but at the second time they only wanted to have the ball. S&M started to attack and looked dangerous.

in a few minutes mexico vs iran... and I have my doubts with mexico. my guess... 1-0 mexico, or even a draw :|

[DeMoN]

The only one I started to see was the one that ended 0 - 0 so that took away my curiosity for the rest of the day lol.

[gucom]

im glad the netherlands won :) but it wasnt a great match to watch... mexico won 3-1 i believe so bultraco worried for nothing :) and thx everybody :D for liking the Netherlands 8)

[davide]

Portugal with a win over Angola, which is no suprise but only 1-0. From a big nation like Protugal, they should have run over Angola..

Tomorrow, USA vs Czech rep. Of course, USA will get their asses handed to them on a silver plate... or what do you say RC? ;) ;)

[DeMoN]

^ many american ppl are getting interviewed, and they seem to be so confident that you'd think they're 100% sure of USA taking the cup.

[antonioledesma]

mexico 3-1 iran. of course the mex team played like crap. I can't believe how those players that have an annual salary over 500,000 USD can't win easily over a bunch of amateurs and 4 real players :roll: Now only very bad luck can prevent mexico to advance to the next round.... I wish :mrgreen:

portugal didn't had a picnic with angola.

for tomorrow the best dish is brazil-croatia. My guess is a 3-2 brazil wins. It will be a great game, fav players!!
the other 2 games are italy-ghana (my guess is 2-0), and usa-czech.. could be a draw or czech wins 1-0

[SFDMALEX]

Well all I cared about today was for the dutch to loose.

You see, I hate the dutch now, because of the UEFA under 21 final.


SCREW THE DUTCH!

[antonioledesma]

and.. Alex, gonna put "something" with Dani, Bultaco, dropot or any other spanish member? :mrgreen: (of course I know those kinda games of bets aren't allowed)

Ukraine-Spain, 14 june

[SFDMALEX]

Hey my very good friend is a Spaniard!

Me and him are going to watch the game live at his shop(he runs a computer store) wednesday.

I think its going to be a good game.

Ukraine is a very talented team.

Spain on paper is one of the best teams out there, no arguments, but Spain doesnt play so well internationaly.

I think its going to the game to watch.

:)


And I dont bet with friends ;)

I'll bet you a coffee or lunch, if you ever make it here ;) :)

[antonioledesma]

and I don't bet with drug-lords :mrgreen:

in the paper, Spain has a more balanced team than Ukraine, but IMO a draw will be that match's result

[cooperluke]

Well, Portugal won Angola, but only 1-0.

By the start of the game, Portugal could have done the 2-0, but on the 2nd half they just didn't played nothing special...

But.. as Figo said... the important is the result. Let's hope they keep winning and, if possible, play nice football also. :D

[Mattk]

Australia just beat Japan 3-1, which is the signal for mad people to drive around hooting their horns, screaming, whistling, and playing Ricky Martin songs at high volume.

[LotusGT1]

and playing Ricky Martin songs at high volume.

WTF :shock:

[dingo]

Australia just beat Japan 3-1, which is the signal for mad people to drive around hooting their horns, screaming, whistling, and playing Ricky Martin songs at high volume.

Good on them, what a great win!!

Down 1-0 and then scoring 3 goals in the last 8-9mins....stunning! :shock:

[Darkel]

Allright ... France-Switzerland 0-0
Not the big clash against Switzerland we were expecting, a lot of missed opportunities on both sides but nothing happened ... as usual :?

[Toronto]

^^^ happened 2-3 times in qual (draw), so it is a kinda a given it would happen again

[gucom]

well...1-0, i expected alot better from brazil...kinda disappointing tbh... :roll:

[SFDMALEX]

dammit, I was going for Croatia and they really could have tied.

They had the second half.

Oh well...

My teams are:

Ukraine
Croatia
Czech

Gotta go for the Slavs.

Not bad so far. Czechs got the Yanks, Croatia did ok vs the best team in the world and Ukraine has the chance to beat Spain tomorrow.

Cant wait for tomorros game.

[gucom]

uhm i guess im supporting the netherlands, brazil, T&T, and uhm...australia for having a dutch coach :) also i dont mind seeing czech win :)

[TopGearNL]

uhm i guess im supporting the netherlands, brazil, T&T, and uhm...australia for having a dutch coach :) also i dont mind seeing czech win :)

Exactly my thought and choice, except you forgot South-Korea that also has a Dutch coach, Dick Advocaat and won with 2-1 :)

[SFDMALEX]

Gotta go for the Slavs.
...
Cant wait for tomorros game.

For sure, you forgot Serbia, Croatia had great chances in the beginning of the 2nd half but then they just looked tired by the end, babic had good opportunities. Tommorow will be a good day, hopefully poland loses to!!

haha yes

I'm cool with Poland politicaly but as far as football goes I cant stand em.
I dunno why.....they just seem to spoil all the parties :P

Should be a good day. :wink:

[Toronto]

this world cup is gonna be a re-peat of WWII.
first germany will beat poland (next game), then france, then england, then loose to... who will play the russians... Czech i guess :P

[davide]

Croatia was almost worthy a goal there, they had some really good chanches!
Brazil did play okay, but was expecting more.. a lot of passes that didn't go through, mess ups in def. zone and stuff like that..

1-0, Brazil was really happy with that result.

Very few goals between the "top teams"...

[gangajas]

Spain has won 4-0. Great match!

[SFDMALEX]

embarrassing game, the team wasnt there, it was difficult to watch....


Good game for Spain.

[Fleischmann]

Poland lost 1:0 to Germany, but not without a proper fight. Poland used a lot of strength in the first half so they were exhasuted in the second, but even so Jelen could easily outrun Odonkor, a player known for being the fastest in the Bundesliga. Too bad, the goal was scored in the 92nd minute :(

[SFDMALEX]

Poland lost 1:0 to Germany, but not without a proper fight. Poland used a lot of strength in the first half so they were exhasuted in the second, but even so Jelen could easily outrun Odonkor, a player known for being the fastest in the Bundesliga. Too bad, the goal was scored in the 92nd minute :(

I have to say after seeing Ukraine loose that bad today I was rooting for Poland.

That second yellow/red was bullshit call though.



Brining me to this point.


THE REFFING IN THIS TOURNAMENT IS CRAP!

WTF have they turned football into?

It's like watching some sissy Americans in an NBA game, they scream foul on anything.


Way to many yellow card this tournament, way too many bullshit calls.

THe refs really piss me off. I havent seen one game yet where the reffing was fair.

Bullshit calls all around.

[Fleischmann]

^^^ I agree, the refereeing is poor all round in this edition. There have been a few very controversial decisions which made huge impacts on the results of the matches. I hope the electronic decision taking system will be enforced very soon, bad refereeing takes the fun out of the sport :(

[Toronto]

schumi on germany
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/060611/1/7e8p.html

[Everlasting]

^^^ I agree, the refereeing is poor all round in this edition. There have been a few very controversial decisions which made huge impacts on the results of the matches. I hope the electronic decision taking system will be enforced very soon, bad refereeing takes the fun out of the sport :(

the refereeing is decent nothin too controversial maybe a harsh decision here and there nothin major though
and that "electronic decision taking system" has no place in football it will take some of the character out of the game!
some of the games' most rememberable moments are such because of an error some referee made for example the maradona "hand of god" incident it's part of the game - life ain't always fair why should football be?

and a quick word about the spain - ukraine game:

The Spaniards are overrated 3 of their goals were from set peaces (a deflected free kick and an unjustified penalty)
Ukraine played with 10 players most of the 2nd half
still Spain's 4th goal was class play but they suck and they will disappoint as they usually do… fuck them!!

[antonioledesma]

well, back here after a business trip.
I gotta say that brazil dissapointed a little. Croatia isn't an easy adversary, but everyone expected more from the scratch du oro. Of course it was the first game.

and... what a game with spain-ukraine. I thought that spain would have a difficult game, but even "niño" torres goal was excellent as a team play :D . Now to wait for a good tournament for my very far relatives :wink: (some part of my mom's family is from the basque country)

germany-poland, was a good game and I believed it was gonna end 0-0. Poland is the first team that fails in the world cup, they had an excellent qualifying tournament.
Ukraine is getting close to that

[SFDMALEX]

Ukraine is getting close to that


I dont believe so.

This game is no indicator of what Ukraine is capable of mate.


This has been by far the worst international performance ukraine ever had.

And we played the spanish twice before. 2:2 and 2:1 for Spain.


The team just didnt play.

THey didnt make mistakes, they simply did not do anything....

they went out with half assed effort.

[antonioledesma]

hope you're correct. It would be very sad to see your country leave without showing their real abilities.
it looked like the team was split in half, besides Shevchenko didn't appeared :|

[DeMoN]

My friend is from Ecuador so now I gotta wake up 8am =(

[LotusGT1]

Well, if you take the dramatic change of Poland from the first game (half-assed weaklings) to the second game (hardworking fighters) Ukraine might have a chance. I was surprised however how little fire they showed.

But that is something I see with more teams. Haven''t seen much good games so far really.

[Mattk]

Brazil only won 1-0, which means Australia is at the top of the group! Ha! Not that it will last, but still.


THE REFFING IN THIS TOURNAMENT IS CRAP!

WTF have they turned football into?

It's like watching some sissy Americans in an NBA game, they scream foul on anything.


Way to many yellow card this tournament, way too many bullshit calls.

THe refs really piss me off. I havent seen one game yet where the reffing was fair.

Bullshit calls all around.

Have you even refereed a sporting match? I referee basketball every week, and I have refereed football as well. Sometimes, you miss things, and sometimes, you call a foul/violation that isn't. You've got to trust your judgment. It's all too easy to criticise people when you're sitting on the sofa, but I've only seen a few blatant mistakes. We have the benefit of slow-motion replays on the TV. Refs don't. It's hard to make correct split-second decisions when many situations are touch-and-go.

[davide]

SWEEEEEDEEEEEEEN ! ! !

Finally!!!

Oh what a relief.... !!!

1-0 vs Paraguay, YES!

[Everlasting]

this Group B sux !

[PiTTbuLL003]

SWEEEEEDEEEEEEEN ! ! !

Finally!!!

Oh what a relief.... !!!

1-0 vs Paraguay, YES!

indeed finally they score 2 whole matches I waited for this very moment

[gucom]

:( T&T lost to england...holland had better win tomorrow, ivory coast im sure can be beaten... i dont see Racing for Holland making us dutchies very very happy at le mans tbh...

[antonioledesma]

today's matches weren't a surprise. IMO England looks a bit weak team even when they have great players.

but now, for tomorrow, mexico's second match versus angola. freakin' african teams, they always are complicated to a team like mexico :|

[SFDMALEX]

Have you even refereed a sporting match? I referee basketball every week, and I have refereed football as well. Sometimes, you miss things, and sometimes, you call a foul/violation that isn't. You've got to trust your judgment. It's all too easy to criticise people when you're sitting on the sofa, but I've only seen a few blatant mistakes. We have the benefit of slow-motion replays on the TV. Refs don't. It's hard to make correct split-second decisions when many situations are touch-and-go.

I have refereed basketball and football.

The reffing this tournmant is fucking shit. Period.

I dont give a shit that refs dont get a TV. It's not supposed to be an easy job.

I watched many tournaments, from anything EUFA to domestic leagues.

I never seen reffing this pathetic.


When they average something like 5 yellow cards a game something is wrong.

I've seen yellow cards on tackels where the challenger had clearly taken posetion of the ball on a side tackel and still got a card.

I've seen red cards for theatrics (watch Spain Ukraine).

Reffing is bullshit.....they are turning this game into hell knows what.

[Mattk]

Yeah, the yellow cards count is a bit high, but it might just be something from a FIFA meeting where they decreed that everything should be a foul. Most of the fouls and cards I've seen were fair enough. In every competition there are a few dodgy decisions, but the vast majority of decisions are correct.

[antonioledesma]

so the referees are doing only crap... just say portugal-iran and there were a lot of kicks and fouls without a yellow card. Just remember the mark that an iran player left on Figo's face :|

a game that was expected that way, with not too many goal oppotunities. Iran had the plan to obtain a draw from this game and expected to win against Angola.
Now Angola still has the chance to qualify if they win that game and Mexico looses against Portugal :?

in some more minutes the match of Ghana vs Czech Rep. This last team will win, but it won't be an easy game.

and later on, USA vs Italy and my clear favorite ....FORZA ITALIA!!! :mrgreen:

[SFDMALEX]

Yeah, the yellow cards count is a bit high, but it might just be something from a FIFA meeting where they decreed that everything should be a foul. Most of the fouls and cards I've seen were fair enough. In every competition there are a few dodgy decisions, but the vast majority of decisions are correct.

Thats what I think. FIFA must have set some new rules because it just cant be that bad with normal rules.

[antonioledesma]

Yeah, the yellow cards count is a bit high, but it might just be something from a FIFA meeting where they decreed that everything should be a foul. Most of the fouls and cards I've seen were fair enough. In every competition there are a few dodgy decisions, but the vast majority of decisions are correct.

Thats what I think. FIFA must have set some new rules because it just cant be that bad with normal rules.

and it seems that penalties aren't allowed if a defender stops a ball with the hand :|

[antonioledesma]

now to wait for better games and refereeing. Right now the argentinian referee is one of the best in america

still ghana is the best of the two in czech-ghana... I don't see how the cezch will win the game

LOL... come on ronin, portugal isn't the best team out there :mrgreen:

[Fleischmann]

Ghana finally won 2:0, but judging by how they played the goal diffrence should have been a few goals higher. The Czech players were not even close to the team that played against USA. A very dissapointing performance fromthem and with Italy to play in the third game, qualifying can be tough.

[LotusGT1]

Portugal will face either Argentina or the Netherlands the next round. Either way they're fucked :D 8)

[LotusGT1]

Don't ever overestimate Portugal. They haven't been playing well so far at all. :twisted:

[SFDMALEX]

fuck this world cup.......Ive had it.........


the bullshit reffing is just frustrating.....I cant watch the games anymore.

the totti card was deffinetly a top 5 bullsit card of the tournament.


look what the reffs are doing to the games.....


where is the dancing, where is the rhythm of the game......its fucking foul calls every minute.....

[SFDMALEX]

lol its just getting better and better.....



someone tell me how the fuck is that a red card for the american?

Thats a yellow. A sliding tackle with the intention of getting the ball but with no contact on the ball...

Its not like he slid there just to hurt him.....


Ive had it.........this is not how the game is played.

[Fleischmann]

We have our first anti hero of the tournament, De Rossi or whatever his name is. An obvious and deliberate elbow in the face left the american player with blood pooring onto his face and in urgent need of stitches. LMAO at his surprised and innocent face, I hope the 3 match suspension for a straight-red will teach him a lesson or two. The second red card...it was a wreckless, late tackle, but I'm not sure I would qualify it for a sending off. 2nd half starts in 12 minutes :D

[SFDMALEX]

fucking lines men are a joke.........some if the most bullshnit offsides in historyh...

[antonioledesma]

fucking lines men are a joke.........some if the most bullshnit offsides in historyh...

2 or 3 italy offsides weren't called correctly

and IMO all 3 red cards were well deserved

[SFDMALEX]

and IMO all 3 red cards were well deserved

I only saw one red.

The eblow to the face.

The second red was bullshit imho, and I didnt see the third so I cant comment.

[antonioledesma]

no comment about the elbow.

the second was correctly called, Mastroeni hitted below and very hard, with the sole directly hitting Pirlo
third, another good call, second yellow of that player.
besides Onyewu has been fouling a lot and hasn't been showed a yellow card

the bs calls come from the linesmen

[antonioledesma]

fukin italy... couldn't win that game :|

now to wait for next game to see which teams go on

[Fleischmann]

The third red card was bs, the player clearly made contact with the ball first. Then again Italy had their fair share of decision given against them, I counted at least 4 bad offside calls.

[LotusGT1]

Every card in the game Italy-VS was totally correct. Referee did a very good job. Off side seemed more of an issue.

[godspeed06]

i disagree. the us was taking it to italy in the first twenty minutes when it was still 11 v 11. they were very strong in the midfield and were winning 80% of the 50-50 balls in that area. all italy could do on the offensive was hit the long through balls and the us offsides trap shut it down. i was actually very disappointed with the quality of italy's game... i felt like the us outplayed them, even with a man down the possession in the offensive third for each team was about equal. the first red card was well deserved. it was a flagrant, unnecessary elbow to the face and drew a lot of blood. the second red was undeserved. yes the spikes were up, but it was a play in midfield - no break away or advantage whatsoever involved. that is a solid yellow, NOT a red. ive seen many spike up tackles like that one and NOT ONE drew a red. finally, the third red card just capped off how much the referrees butchered this game. also not deserved. this is the world cup - three red cards just dont get thrown out like this. i was in absolute shock when i saw that third red card come out. there were only two questionable calls on offsides, and both were extremely close. its up to the linesmen and calls like that happen. especially with italy trying the through balls so often. if a team puts themselves in that position so many times on offense there are going to be a lot of calls. the red cards on the other hand, were ridiculous. the referee should be fined. all in all, i think the us played very tough, aggressive soccer. they won a lot of the 50-50 balls and did a much better job playing on the flanks and developing an offensive attack. italy could only try the long through balls - no creativity from their mid field whatsoever. also, if only mcbride had been in a better position, us would have taken it down 2-1 while lacking a man... very exciting game nonetheless.

its a shame that the ref's bad calls will affect the us in the next game against ghana which i think will be a tougher match than against italy. mastroeni and pope are both excellent players, and their actions did not warrant expulsions from two games of such significance.

if italy plays as lazy as they did today against czech, they will lose. czech is going to come out like gangbusters after such a loss to ghana.

[Everlasting]

i have no fingernails left!
italia should have won but the us did good this group is gonna fucking explode in the coming last round!

the czech have no strikers left koller and baroche are injured and the one whos player today got a yellow card that would prevent him from playing in the game against italia still they are a good team but i'm rooting for the italians
damn it gonna be close!

this thursday the 22nd - mark ur calenders!

[DeMoN]

I just hate how players act injured and roll on floor. Worst thing is, they actually trick the ref.

[godspeed06]

the second red was undeserved. yes the spikes were up, but it was a play in midfield - no break away or advantage whatsoever involved. that is a solid yellow, NOT a red. ive seen many spike up tackles like that one and NOT ONE drew a red.

the rules say when someone is risking the health of the other player he gets red - no matter where the foul took place.

as i had said, ive seen tackles just like that one in previous games and they were all YELLOWS because they werent risking the health of the player. it has to be FLAGRANT to draw a red - normally coming from behind when no contact with ball is even possible. he was going after the ball, and for that reason alone its a yellow. if he were going in to actually hurt the player or just to keep him from scoring on a breakaway, then yes, it would be a red. but not in this situation. the elbow from italy was to hurt mcbride. the replay shows it all too well. he literally threw his elbow into mcbrides face. it wasnt there to protect him, but to injure another player. im sorry, but ive seen the replay many times, and i refuse to accept that that should be a red for mastroeni.

and i agree with a previous poster. way too many foul calls in this world cup. it completely ruins the flow of the game. i found myself yelling at the tv, DONT TOUCH HIM DONT TOUCH HIM, DONT FOUL, just bc it seems like a little tap, and someone falls, then its a foul. THAT IS NOT SOCCER. PLAY ON i say...

[SFDMALEX]

Goat sorry I call bullshit on the offsides.


Through balls till you die, its not like you cant do them. There where tons of bullshit offside calls for italy. A few blatantly obvious ones aswel.

They need to rework the whole offside deal.

They call it when the players are within an inch of each other.

I say offside only when there is a clear, half a meter + advantage for the attacking player.

These bullshit ass 6 or 3 inch offside calls kill the game.

Linesmen have butchered many games so far.

[antonioledesma]

the second red was undeserved. yes the spikes were up, but it was a play in midfield - no break away or advantage whatsoever involved. that is a solid yellow, NOT a red. ive seen many spike up tackles like that one and NOT ONE drew a red.

the rules say when someone is risking the health of the other player he gets red - no matter where the foul took place.

as i had said, ive seen tackles just like that one in previous games and they were all YELLOWS because they werent risking the health of the player. it has to be FLAGRANT to draw a red - normally coming from behind when no contact with ball is even possible. he was going after the ball, and for that reason alone its a yellow. if he were going in to actually hurt the player or just to keep him from scoring on a breakaway, then yes, it would be a red. but not in this situation. the elbow from italy was to hurt mcbride. the replay shows it all too well. he literally threw his elbow into mcbrides face. it wasnt there to protect him, but to injure another player. im sorry, but ive seen the replay many times, and i refuse to accept that that should be a red for mastroeni.

omg... it is by fifa's indications that you don't have to injure a player to get a red card.
just and example of this: If you try to punch an oponent, even when you don't hit him, inmediatly a red card is pulled out.

hope you play a football game and get hitted that way just like Mastroeni did it to Andrea Pirlo

you americans that think know soccer by watching 3 games :roll:

[godspeed06]

the second red was undeserved. yes the spikes were up, but it was a play in midfield - no break away or advantage whatsoever involved. that is a solid yellow, NOT a red. ive seen many spike up tackles like that one and NOT ONE drew a red.

the rules say when someone is risking the health of the other player he gets red - no matter where the foul took place.

as i had said, ive seen tackles just like that one in previous games and they were all YELLOWS because they werent risking the health of the player. it has to be FLAGRANT to draw a red - normally coming from behind when no contact with ball is even possible. he was going after the ball, and for that reason alone its a yellow. if he were going in to actually hurt the player or just to keep him from scoring on a breakaway, then yes, it would be a red. but not in this situation. the elbow from italy was to hurt mcbride. the replay shows it all too well. he literally threw his elbow into mcbrides face. it wasnt there to protect him, but to injure another player. im sorry, but ive seen the replay many times, and i refuse to accept that that should be a red for mastroeni.

omg... it is by fifa's indications that you don't have to injure a player to get a red card.
just and example of this: If you try to punch an oponent, even when you don't hit him, inmediatly a red card is pulled out.

hope you play a football game and get hitted that way just like Mastroeni did it to Andrea Pirlo

you americans that think know soccer by watching 3 games :roll:

first of all, your comment about "americans" is an extremely ignorant and unnecessary thing to say. you have no idea what kind of experience i have playing soccer and the injuries ive sustained. as far as im concerned, a cheap shot like that at an entire nation when we are discussing a soccer match shows a lot of weakness in your character.

second, i never said one needed to be injured, i said normally red cards require the intent to injure. either way, refs from other games would have given a yellow. its obvious this ref didnt know what he was doing. its just unfortunate that italy had to turn the game into a dirty one with that elbow. it just opened the flood gates as far as im concerned.

on the offsides note, no measurements involved, half a step or less is all thats needed - and i think the rule is fine as is. as far as im concerned, its the offense pushing the envelope too far, not the refs fault. as a striker you simply need to be aware of your surroundings and stay behind teh defense. when a defense is as good at timing their trap as teh us was its just up to the striker to anticipate that as well as the ball coming through from the midfield. as far as italy doing nothing wrong with all the through balls, thats true. you can do it all you want - as long as you dont mind looking like a U-14 team. i mean c'mon. this is italy here - show me something exciting from the midfield. go watch a 14 year old team play, all they do is bomb the ball to the flags just like italy did. whats even worse is after all the offsides, their midfield never changed their point of attack - they kept doing it! i was just disappointed. the us attacked from teh sides with crosses as well as up the middle - variation italy didnt show. and you know what - the us team made up of "fat stupid americans" as i always hear here held on with italy a man down for 43 minutes and had a goal called back bc mcbrides unlucky positioning. the us was the dominant team through 20 minutes when it was 11 on 11. and i have little doubt in my mind if it stayed 11 the us would have had a better result. i find that hard to counter considering they tied with a man down... hopefully you tivo'd the game or something, go back and watch the first 20 minutes objectively - except for the first 2 minutes, it was all USA.

[SFDMALEX]

/\/\\/\ ROTFLMAO


So Italy is at fault? They turned it into a dirty game? lol......


Bullshit again on the offsides. The offsides were bullshit. Only when there is a clear striker advantage should they be called. Not when they are on the same bloody line or litteraly an inch between each other.

Nothing under 14 about that way of play either. If anything it takes skill to make a good long pass and and a striker to time his run. Because players have to read each other and time their running/passing well.


Been playing and watching football since I was old enough to kick the ball. Played leagues all my life and never seen bullshit like this.

It has always been a tough rough game, with a little shirt pulling and shin checking as part of the game.

What I see now is shit.


Italy played like shit, and I didnt care about either side at all. What I saw was a game that was full of bad quality reffing all around.



And dont get upset when Americans get shit for anything football related. I see Americans talk shit about the sport all the time. And this CNN bloke Glen Beck or whatever the name called it a shit, racist sport on live TV so once again dont get upset.

[antonioledesma]

the second red was undeserved. yes the spikes were up, but it was a play in midfield - no break away or advantage whatsoever involved. that is a solid yellow, NOT a red. ive seen many spike up tackles like that one and NOT ONE drew a red.

the rules say when someone is risking the health of the other player he gets red - no matter where the foul took place.

as i had said, ive seen tackles just like that one in previous games and they were all YELLOWS because they werent risking the health of the player. it has to be FLAGRANT to draw a red - normally coming from behind when no contact with ball is even possible. he was going after the ball, and for that reason alone its a yellow. if he were going in to actually hurt the player or just to keep him from scoring on a breakaway, then yes, it would be a red. but not in this situation. the elbow from italy was to hurt mcbride. the replay shows it all too well. he literally threw his elbow into mcbrides face. it wasnt there to protect him, but to injure another player. im sorry, but ive seen the replay many times, and i refuse to accept that that should be a red for mastroeni.

omg... it is by fifa's indications that you don't have to injure a player to get a red card.
just and example of this: If you try to punch an oponent, even when you don't hit him, inmediatly a red card is pulled out.

hope you play a football game and get hitted that way just like Mastroeni did it to Andrea Pirlo

you americans that think know soccer by watching 3 games :roll:

first of all, your comment about "americans" is an extremely ignorant and unnecessary thing to say. you have no idea what kind of experience i have playing soccer and the injuries ive sustained. as far as im concerned, a cheap shot like that at an entire nation when we are discussing a soccer match shows a lot of weakness in your character.

second, i never said one needed to be injured, i said normally red cards require the intent to injure. either way, refs from other games would have given a yellow. its obvious this ref didnt know what he was doing. its just unfortunate that italy had to turn the game into a dirty one with that elbow. it just opened the flood gates as far as im concerned.

so, if you claim to have played football, you know that foul by Mastroeni deserverd the red card, simply as that. Maybe he didn't want to injury Pirlo (no one wants to injury another player), but he left the foot up with the studs... and hitted directly the leg. Just unnecessary roughness and force in the play, no inventions by my side, only the rule.
and the principal referee was from uruguay (as I remember), not a country where the football league is known because they're are soft :roll:

[godspeed06]

/\/\\/\ ROTFLMAO


So Italy is at fault? They turned it into a dirty game? lol......


Bullshit again on the offsides. The offsides were bullshit. Only when there is a clear striker advantage should they be called. Not when they are on the same bloody line or litteraly an inch between each other.

Nothing under 14 about that way of play either. If anything it takes skill to make a good long pass and and a striker to time his run. Because players have to read each other and time their running/passing well.


Been playing and watching football since I was old enough to kick the ball. Played leagues all my life and never seen bullshit like this.

It has always been a tough rough game, with a little shirt pulling and shin checking as part of the game.

What I see now is shit.


Italy played like shit, and I didnt care about either side at all. What I saw was a game that was full of bad quality reffing all around.



And dont get upset when Americans get shit for anything football related. I see Americans talk shit about the sport all the time. And this CNN bloke Glen Beck or whatever the name called it a shit, racist sport on live TV so once again dont get upset.

ill agree with you that my statement about italy making it a dirty game is too far. its not true. but i think fouls like that - elbows to the face are about as bad a foul as there is in soccer. the game can get rough - but it should never turn into a street brawl. i dont have the slightest clue who glen beck is and he doesnt speak for me or the american people. he speaks for himself. the reffing was piss poor and i was yelling for someone from teh stands to snipe his ass during the game. i really hope he gets fined but that obviously cant happen. i cant agree with you more on your 4-6 paragraphs though.. i mean an automatic yellow for shirt pulling? give me a fucking break, with all the divers in the game i cant believe there havent been more simulation calls. i say leave the shirt pulling and make simulation an auto yellow... through balls dont take that much skill, a well paced ball to the corner so a striker can chase it down, isnt tough to do...

as for you antonio, ive played many games and watched many - so ive seen many tackles exactly like that one, and in my experience that just isnt a red card.

i think we can pretty much all agree taht for whatever reason, adn whatever side you rooted for - the game was butchered by the refs. i mean a 9 v 10 game in such an important match just isnt right - for either side. what pisses me off the most, is the ref not only fucked up his game, but the games after bc those red card players cant play... it just straight up sucks. its just a shame to see such a revered, respected tournament like hte world cup get mucked up by bad reffing... i, as im sure all of you were, was soooo excited for the world cup. the only sport i watch or give two shits about is soccer... and i see 30 fouls a game by just one side... its just a shame. but the teams have to put it behind them. the next two games from this group should be exciting - especially for those rooting for a team...

[antonioledesma]

yellow card for shirt pulling because the defending team just used that foul to stop the rival team in every attack, it became so constant that it was annoying to see 25-30 fouls by each team.
red card for each tackle from behind. because these kind of tackles ended in injuries
red card for excessive use of force, even if the defender touched first the ball
at least yellow card for showing the studs

I don't remember a sport where pulling shirts isn't punished just with a "normal" or common penalty

it isn't a "rule" that a referee butches the game when the teams end with 10 and 9 players. It can show that the teams instead of playing all 90 minutes, only kicked the crap out of them.

EDIT: and having read some reviews from the game... all of the reporters agree that all 3 red cards were deserved

[godspeed06]

yellow card for shirt pulling because the defending team just used that foul to stop the rival team in every attack, it became so constant that it was annoying to see 25-30 fouls by each team.
red card for each tackle from behind. because these kind of tackles ended in injuries
red card for excessive use of force, even if the defender touched first the ball
at least yellow card for showing the studs

I don't remember a sport where pulling shirts isn't punished just with a "normal" or common penalty

it isn't a "rule" that a referee butches the game when the teams end with 10 and 9 players. It can show that the teams instead of playing all 90 minutes, only kicked the crap out of them.

EDIT: and having read some reviews from the game... all of the reporters agree that all 3 red cards were deserved

i dont know where you read the articles from. but be careful. all articles are spun and many have ulterior motives. any article with absolutely any connection with fifa MUST back up the calls. the federation has to back up the referees. not all of those reds were deserved. articles arent the arbitraters. i wish i could have talked to some of the other world cup referees freely... the answers im sure would contradict what happened. but thats my opinion. take it for what you will.

[dingo]

Australia v Brazil tonight - I'm SO excited! We are on top of the group at this stage, lets hope it stays that way, a draw would be a good result.

The country is excited about it, apparently 20% of people aren't expected to turn up for work tomorrow since the game starts at midnight local time....I'll be at work at 8am as normal despite 5hrs sleep.

[antonioledesma]

and many have ulterior motives

yes, very ulterior motives from every person that I've asked, all kinds of newspapers, tvshows, etc. I'm guessing that you and Bruce Arena aka Homer simpson, are the only persons that really believe that foul didn't deserved a red card


in another topic... what a crappy game between Croatia and Japan. Where the hell the croatian's game was? I was falling asleep.
It was a show of a belgian referee that called foul all contacts on the defending team... what a bunch of crap.
japan's level has also come down. This WC also shows that advertising can make you expect a lot from a player, Nakata, and that player just sucks :| . I don't remember 2 good plays from Nakata

now to wait for Brazil-Australia. sorry my oz friends, but my money is on Brazil. We'll read your comments tomorrow :D

[SFDMALEX]

Good luck to Australia, I think it will be Argentina Vs. Serbia type of game.

I watched the ozs play Japan and I really didnt like their game.

[antonioledesma]

what a booooring game. Brazil has no real team work.
Ronaldo is again showing his lack of rythim... :| he got rid of the extra weight, but he isn't able enough
Australia has a clear idea of how to play this game. Get everyone behind the midfiled line, cramp it and try to win with a counterattack or a corner kick

[dingo]

Boring first half, but I'm on the edge of my seat hoping for a Aussie goal. Definately not a Arg v Serb game SFDMALEX, give us some credit.

...I watched the ozs play Japan and I really didnt like their game.

whats not to like about 3 goals in 9 minutes? ;)

[SFDMALEX]

Dont get me wrong, I give them credit, I just some weak gameplay in the first half of the Jap game that someone like Brazil can advantage of.

I wish em all the best, last team I want to see win is Brazil ;)

[antonioledesma]

now I hope that the second half will be better.
Aussie will continue with that tactic

[SFDMALEX]

fat ass ronaldo is disgrace to the sport.

[antonioledesma]

he isn't that fat. He's thinner than last year, but all the injuries all this time have caused him to be off rythim.
also he's carrying Real Madrid's bad game play

just look at robert carlos, becky beckham, etc

[Z3uS]

Brazil won... Not really an exciting game from both parts but at least we won :)

[antonioledesma]

almost half time in the France- S Korea match.
Korea dominated France for a couple of minutes, but then Henry got lucky and scored.

why the hell Trezeguet isn't on the field? :?

[antonioledesma]

yes, I'm gonna postwhore in this topic
S. Korea tied the game against France, and until the minute 40 of the second time, David Trezeguet went onto the field... which player can solve a game in that time?
france is not supposed to suffer in that way, they have been WORLD champions not from a third category league.
again, an aging star should've stayed retired from the france selection. Zidane isn't in the correct form to play a world cup.

fuckin idiotic french players, felt they had the game won

also, the mexican referee didn't had a good game

[SFDMALEX]

Shit bad news for the Ukrainian team...practicaly all of our defence is injured :cry:

[antonioledesma]

Shit bad news for the Ukrainian team...practicaly all of our defence is injured :cry:

what? you had defense? :P

too bad for the last game in this first round

[SFDMALEX]

Shit bad news for the Ukrainian team...practicaly all of our defence is injured :cry:

what? you had defense? :P

too bad for the last game in this first round

You mean second last. We still have to play Tunisia.


And yeah, we had defence, or we have defence, when the team actually plays football :wink:

[antonioledesma]

:oops: you're right, still you have to play the second game

[SFDMALEX]

:oops: you're right, still you have to play the second game


meh...coach said "You'll see the same team that you saw during the qualifying stages"

I sure as hell hope he's right...or else I dunno why they even bothered to come to Germany if they have zero intention of playing, like they showed against Spain.

[sikx5]

I thought Oz was going to get snapped by Brazil, But it was a good hard fought game, Could not belive the chances Brazil had, and failed, Same with OZ. The brazil crosses sucked as well, how could they miss them like that, very poor...or maybe i was expecting too much from them ?!

[SFDMALEX]

Bloody hell, Ukraine had the chanec to make it 4:0 by 1st half...


The game is there just lacking the finesse.


The goal by Rebrow was a beauty though, great shot, tons of power.

[SFDMALEX]

That coulda been a 6:0 game.

But oh well, couldnt ask for more good game.

[Darkel]

france is not supposed to suffer in that way, they have been WORLD champions not from a third category league.
again, an aging star should've stayed retired from the france selection. Zidane isn't in the correct form to play a world cup.

fuckin idiotic french players, felt they had the game won

I can only agree, you should see what the public opinion thinks of them here ... their trainer said "we've been playing against a good swiss team and a good korean team", but the french team was crap, may I add.

It's high time they make some changes, let zidane and all the former world champions retire in peace, fire the trainer and show us a proper football team :roll: It's been 2 world cups now that they aren't even playing football ... can't figure out why everyone was expecting much of them, such a shame.

[LotusGT1]

Strange World Cup to say the least. WTF is Spain doing against Tunesia???

[SFDMALEX]

/\/\/\They got back in form in the 2nd half, but first half I didnt know wtf they where doing.

[bultaco_metralla]

wooooooohooooooooooooooooo

Spain 3 - Tunisia 1

Fantastic overcome!!!!!!!!!!

A por ellooooooos oeeee A por ellos oeeeeee Apor ellos eeeooooooeeeeeeee!!!!

[godspeed06]

anyone notice the YELLOW CARD in the the 30' minute of the spain game? exactly the same type of tackle as mastroeni's. his cleats were up and right to the other player's ankle... was it a RED? no, a yellow... not to beat a dead horse or anything, but it just seemed like perfect evidence of what id been talking about...

[Z3uS]

Exellent game for Ukraine, i really enjoyed it! They should have payed like that agains Spain.

And Spain... What to say... Tunisia led almost the entire game with that 1 goal, however Spain deserved to win the game, they played better.

[SFDMALEX]

Exellent game for Ukraine, i really enjoyed it! They should have payed like that agains Spain.



It was entertaining for sure but I still saw problems with Ukrainian defence.

But they showed their true side today :)

Considering we are missing key players I think they played great.

Once we get our full squad back I think Ukraine can provide a few more very interesting games.

[antonioledesma]

at last Ukraine showed some of what they have. Now to see if they can qualify to the second round.

the Swiss team... I can't tell much because I only saw some minutes (in a meeting :mrgreen: )

and at last Raúl showed why he is the best scorer in spain!! unlocked a very difficult game. And I would've let Raul to have the penalty kick

[godspeed06]

torres got fouled. why would you give it to raul? torres was fouled in a scoring position, so he got the pk... makes sense to me.

[Fleischmann]

ANother great performance frommy favourite player, Cesc Fabregas. he's only 19, barely came on the pitch and set up Torres for his first goal. Raul's goal was scored after the goalkeeper after Fabregas' shot.

[antonioledesma]

In only saw the England-Sweden match... and it was great!!

sorry to the partners that had their money and hopes on England :mrgreen:
the first goal was amazing... Booom! goal!! Cole did it veeeeery nice :D
My work mates and I were watching the game and yelled at all the goal opportunities that showed up.
that is what the world cup should be. 2 great teams engaged in a battle

but now... England vs Ecuador and.... Sweden vs Germany... those games will be excellent :)

Tomorrow... Mexico vs Portugal. Even when Portugal wont come out with their luxury team, the bench players will try to obtain a place in the initial formation.
My guesses are.. Portugual wins or it's a draw

also another game that will be amazing: NL vs Argentina. Go NL!!!! :mrgreen:
the argentinians will try to take vengeance from the France 98 WC, when NL beated Argentina with an awesome goal by Dennis Bergkamp

[godspeed06]

i cant wait for the netherlands game...

[crayzayjay]

Argentina Holland tonight in what should be an amazing game...

go argentina!

[bmagni]

horrible game by mexico with stupid ass mistakes... the hand by marquez was uterly stupid, same as the missed penalty... i really can't believe it....

[SFDMALEX]

:( :( I was rooting for Mexico. Man if only they scored that penatly :( Youd expect players not to miss the net at this level, but hey Ive seen stuff worse then that this torunament. Like Ukraine Vs. Spain lol :(

[Fleischmann]

Have any of you guys seen this ?? Type:

Telnet ascii-wm.net 2006

in the command line during one of the matches in the 2006 World Cup. This will present the video the game using only ASCII characters. Just stand a few meters away from the PC and watch the screen. While it may not be the most pleasant way to enjoy a game of football, it really is amazing.

[bmagni]

:( :( I was rooting for Mexico. Man if only they scored that penatly :( Youd expect players not to miss the net at this level,

Its a shame that having such a good team they loose this way.

Marquez being an "international star" makes this kind of errors. Like 4 years ago against the US.

Then their lack of ability to score is impressive, with 10 players they controlled the game but couldn't score, its unbelievable....

but hey Ive seen stuff worse then that this torunament. Like Ukraine Vs. Spain lol :(

lol, the difference is that Mexican players are one of the best paid in the world....

[antonioledesma]

damn... what a concert of mistakes from mexico. First of all, why the fuckin hell the coach had Marquez in the midfield?????? for the love of football, that isn't his position.
Also, when you need your international player to move into another position, you sure are in serious trouble :?
Marquez was very very nervous because ALL the team was onto his shoulders. He's a leader, but in the backfield :|
then that stupid player that missed the penalty kick and couple more clear shots :x

then... a somewhat boring game from NL-Argentina. NL didn't look very good in this game, and Argentina sure is ready for the finals

[godspeed06]

i was very disappointed with how nl played. im rooting for them after the us is eliminated - hopefully somehwere after the group round. though i must say, i was very impressed by how numbers 11 and 19 played for the argentinian side... tevez and messi, i believe? tevez was so aggressive on offensive, always fought for the ball and when he lost it he didnt just stand there like an idiot. i swear, few things in this game piss me off more than an attacking player getting the ball stripped from him and then him just standing there with his pants around his ankles. messi is an unbelievable talent as well - and so young. overall though, i must admit a 0-0 tie was not what i was hoping for.

[LotusGT1]

Both Argentina and Netherlands seemed to play at half of their capabilities. Argentina looked a little bit stronger, but in the end the game sucked. How boring that was. Not much chances, no spectacle.

Didin't feel Mexico was controling the game, Portugal seemed to play a little bit smarter. Many many mistakes and a bit chaotic in their play.

[LotusGT1]

You see that often, when a team is a man down, they start playing better.

[antonioledesma]

right now... Italy vs Czech. Both of them have the possibility of not obtaining the qualification

[dingo]

Australia v Croatia tonight, we only need a draw to get through to the final 16 - oh how great it would be!

Off to bed for 5hrs so I can get up at 3am and watch it live.....nighty night. :D

[bmagni]

Italia wins 2-0 !!! Czech Republic is disqualified, so is the US and Ghana surprisingly qualifies defeating the US 2-1

[antonioledesma]

yeah!!! USA is disqualified!!!!

too bad for the Czech Rep... they had a good team, but didn't do a thing.

forza italia!!!! :mrgreen:

[godspeed06]

haha, i love how you guys arent cheering for ghana, but against the usa. did they hurt your feelings somewhere along the way? anyway, im gonna have to wait until someone puts up the italy game on mininova.org before i can watch it. i hate these side by side games... i wish i had two tvs.

id like to cheer ghana on in the next round against brazil, i just wish they hadnt been so shameful in theyre time wasting attempts. theyre starting to be as bad as teh south american teams when it comes to that bullshit. i wish theyd just play the game. dropping like flies isnt fun to watch, and i can only handle seeing guys taken off on stretchers then coming immediately back onto the field so much before i start to feel sick. pimpong fell to the ground one time late in the second half and wasnt even involved in a play! he jsut dropped to the ground, complained about a side stitch, was carried off on a stretcher, then came right back in. fifa should 1) be much stricter on diving, if a guy hits the ground because he let his body go limp, and theres no foul - give him a yellow. id much rather see some tougher play be allowed and much less of the simulation 2) if youre carried off on a stretcher you have to either sub out, or sit out ten minutues... see how many people keep diving and asking to be taken off the field then. i mean whatever happend to just walking it off? it really is ludicrous when you think about it. watch rugby or american football, if a guy is taken off in a stretcher its because he just tore every ligament in his knee, and he'll probably still try to WALK off. these guys get tapped in the leg and need to be carried off. its shameful. im surprised they dont have more dignity. you might say its part of the game - and youre right, it is. but its FIFA's fault for letting it be part of the game. i feel if both those are addressed it will be good for the game. you wont see these pussies crying on the ground, then coming right back on. i saw one guy get fouled for his shirt being pulled, and just out of habit when he dove he grabbed his ankle... nothing touched it, hes just so used to doing that when he dives, he did it without thinking :lol: .

[Global Warming]

USA LOSES, WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEE :P :P :twisted: :twisted:

The USA was in the world cup?

[dingo]

Woohoooooooooooooooooooooo......Australia are through after an amazing game to watch! :D

Italy v Australia on Monday, can't wait.

[gucom]

haha, i love how you guys arent cheering for ghana, but against the usa. did they hurt your feelings somewhere along the way? anyway, im gonna have to wait until someone puts up the italy game on mininova.org before i can watch it. i hate these side by side games... i wish i had two tvs.

id like to cheer ghana on in the next round against brazil, i just wish they hadnt been so shameful in theyre time wasting attempts. theyre starting to be as bad as teh south american teams when it comes to that bullshit. i wish theyd just play the game. dropping like flies isnt fun to watch, and i can only handle seeing guys taken off on stretchers then coming immediately back onto the field so much before i start to feel sick. pimpong fell to the ground one time late in the second half and wasnt even involved in a play! he jsut dropped to the ground, complained about a side stitch, was carried off on a stretcher, then came right back in. fifa should 1) be much stricter on diving, if a guy hits the ground because he let his body go limp, and theres no foul - give him a yellow. id much rather see some tougher play be allowed and much less of the simulation 2) if youre carried off on a stretcher you have to either sub out, or sit out ten minutues... see how many people keep diving and asking to be taken off the field then. i mean whatever happend to just walking it off? it really is ludicrous when you think about it. watch rugby or american football, if a guy is taken off in a stretcher its because he just tore every ligament in his knee, and he'll probably still try to WALK off. these guys get tapped in the leg and need to be carried off. its shameful. im surprised they dont have more dignity. you might say its part of the game - and youre right, it is. but its FIFA's fault for letting it be part of the game. i feel if both those are addressed it will be good for the game. you wont see these pussies crying on the ground, then coming right back on. i saw one guy get fouled for his shirt being pulled, and just out of habit when he dove he grabbed his ankle... nothing touched it, hes just so used to doing that when he dives, he did it without thinking :lol: .

who said we didnt cheer Ghana, i have been cheering for them along!! i hope they beat Brazil to!! i want Portugal to win it all!! :D

i dont, it'd mean they'd beat the Netherlands...

and congratz to australia, i've only seen small parts of the match but it seemed very confusing to me, with a total asswack for a referee?

[davide]

Australia did the match of their lives..

[FPVPSI]

OMG...What a match, aussies v cro's!!

Awsome, im lost for words...actuallyy....

AUSSIE, AUSSIE AUSSIE....OI OI OI

:lol:

[dingo]

Yes the ref was an asswack, one of the Croatian players had 3 yellow cards at the end and was still on the field......not to mention all the penalties he missed!

[SFDMALEX]

haha, i love how you guys arent cheering for ghana, but against the usa. did they hurt your feelings somewhere along the way?.

Im generalt pro States and all but as far as football goes fuck USA.

Sorry, I hear too much shit coming out of American mouths about the sport...

And it all just got more sour when this clown on CNN said "when I think soccer, I think racism, hooligans and ...." forgot what else he said.

You disrespect sport, thats why no one cheers for US ever.

Sure might not be every American, but as a nation I never root for US. Never.

[antonioledesma]

I'll have to watch the Aussies' game later on. By your comments it was a great match. I only saw the Brazil-Japan match, and I gotta say it was a taste of Brazil's game.

Now to wait for the rest of the games. It could be the last chance of France (they have to put Henry and Trezeguet together).
The Swiss team will have a hard game against those fast koreans.
Ukraine has to show everything they have to qualify.
And Spain will only confirm that their group wasn't so hard, and to point to the semifinals

[godspeed06]

haha, i love how you guys arent cheering for ghana, but against the usa. did they hurt your feelings somewhere along the way?.

Im generalt pro States and all but as far as football goes fuck USA.

Sorry, I hear too much shit coming out of American mouths about the sport...

And it all just got more sour when this clown on CNN said "when I think soccer, I think racism, hooligans and ...." forgot what else he said.

You disrespect sport, thats why no one cheers for US ever.

Sure might not be every American, but as a nation I never root for US. Never.

that quotes ridiculous. soccer is teh greatest sport in the world... by the way, does canada even have a team?

[antonioledesma]

^of course, and this last concacaf tournamet for the world cup, they were not so good. They dissapointed a little

[SFDMALEX]

that quotes ridiculous. soccer is teh greatest sport in the world... by the way, does canada even have a team?

Its the worst team on the planet.

Youd think we would be better then States having such a big European immigrant population eh?

I actually think we have some talent here, its just that immigrants dont have the money to go to private schools, play in some fancy leagues where scouts go.


And I know not all Americans are like that. People do go to see the MLS games afterall. But the general American attitude towards football(soccer) is shit :(
well very much like we in Europe dont understand American football. :wink:

[antonioledesma]

Canada's national team has come down this years. Look at the USA's program that has a mediocre league that works and gives continuity to the colleges' football programs. Because Canada doesn't have a professional team (as I know until now), their players don't have the chance to grow up

[SFDMALEX]

Canada's national team has come down this years. Look at the USA's program that has a mediocre league that works and gives continuity to the colleges' football programs. Because Canada doesn't have a professional team (as I know until now), their players don't have the chance to grow up


Mate these little leagues I see here that they show on Local TV are embarrasing.

Its actually sad the level of football the play at.

I can bring my old high school team from Ukraine and beat these guys.

Its just sad.


Oh well we got "HOCKEY!"

Anyway the reason we dont have a football league is because Canadians dont like the sport.

Its only immigrants in cities like Toronto, Vancuver, Montreal that like it.

Otherwise the rest of Canada is all hard core Canadians that like hockey and shit Canadian beer :P hey but they are still cool.

[antonioledesma]

football in USA wasn't liked, until sport authorities introduced the sport in elementary and high schools. Of course also in colleges.
also the usa league has some financial troubles because not all teams attract the crowds they desired
I wouldn't be surprised if the goverment dept of sport or whatever it is, helps with money.

the usa had another league back then in the 70's. Lots of international stars went (Pele did it) and the league dissapeared

[novass]

football in USA wasn't liked, until sport authorities introduced the sport in elementary and high schools. Of course also in colleges.
also the usa league has some financial troubles because not all teams attract the crowds they desired
I wouldn't be surprised if the goverment dept of sport or whatever it is, helps with money.

the usa had another league back then in the 70's. Lots of international stars went (Pele did it) and the league dissapeared

I think a lot of the reason its not very big on a professional spectating level here is that it doesnt yield enough time for commercials. You can only put commercials in at the beginning, half and end and not during. Any other major sport you get here on TV is littered with commercials. I love the sport and played it for over 18 years, coached two teams (coaching one currently) and damn near every kid in this area played for some time at least. Its huge at the youth level but not at the professional.

Anyway, I saw Brazil's game today and they looked pretty damn good. Ronaldo finally got into it and scored some goals. Tivo'd the Aussie/Croatia game so Ill have to catch that later tonight. Didnt watch the US/Ghana or Chech/Italy games yet either but I Tivo'd them so I am gonna go watch those now. I havent missed a single game yet LOL and I dont intend too. There are so few and rare chances to see good soccer (yes I said soccer!) here without having to pay for some ultra premium sports channels.

[Zot09]

I think a lot of the reason its not very big on a professional spectating level here is that it doesnt yield enough time for commercials. You can only put commercials in at the beginning, half and end and not during. Any other major sport you get here on TV is littered with commercials. I love the sport and played it for over 18 years, coached two teams (coaching one currently) and damn near every kid in this area played for some time at least. Its huge at the youth level but not at the professional.


That is some ingenius reasoning right there, and it makes a lot of sense. But it is so sad to hear though, soccer is such a great game(hahaha soccer...)

Anyways, I don't think i'm going to get any sleep tonight, the Korea vs. Swiss game is tomorrow. I hope Korea can pull through and beat them to advance onto the next round, it should be a good game.

[Global Warming]

that quotes ridiculous. soccer is teh greatest sport in the world... by the way, does canada even have a team?

Its the worst team on the planet.

Youd think we would be better then States having such a big European immigrant population eh?

I actually think we have some talent here, its just that immigrants dont have the money to go to private schools, play in some fancy leagues where scouts go.


And I know not all Americans are like that. People do go to see the MLS games afterall. But the general American attitude towards football(soccer) is shit :(
well very much like we in Europe dont understand American football. :wink:


Well I have to say here is my impression of soccer. I’m a “died in the wool” baseball fan. I have also always been a football fan. I also love to watch basketball, tennis, and golf.

But I have NEVER watched soccer. Really I have never been to or seen an MLS game on TV or in person. I virtually know nothing about the sport. So this year I thought I would give it a chance and watch this way hyped World Cup. The first day I see all this racist shit! People throwing bananas and dressed up like Hitler?!?! What the fuck! This shit does not happen in sports in America.

Ok so the the USA looses its first game witch was no big deal and no surprise. Next thing I see are tons of posts all over message boards with Europeans saying things like “haha fuck you America you suck so bad” etc. Then a lot of people replied that they really don’t car if team USA wins or looses because they are just not into soccer. So those same people get even madder. “You stupid fucking yanks don’t even like the best sport in the world its no wonder everyone hates you!!” etc. etc.

So I have to agree with the guy on CNN 100%! I tried to get into the World Cup but immediately found out 3 things!!

1. I find it painfully boring to try to watch.
2. I was shocked and appalled to see the racism witch apparently has been going on for a long time in the sport.
3. The fans around the world have no respect for the USA and the sports we do like and are unbelievably rude and immature towards us and each other.

Bottom line, I will never watch or care about soccer again, its pure garbage!

[SFDMALEX]

/\/\/\Your so fucking full of shit.

1) There has been no racism in this world cup, or ever.

2) Racism is football is a rare occasion.

3) Football boring? WTF is baseball then ahahahahahahahahaah

4) The reason no one respects USA is because of guys like you in the first place lol

[Global Warming]

1) So the people throwing bananas and chanting "monkey" at black players on the first day didn’t happen? WTF? It was international news! Plus the German police confiscated dozens of pro-nazi signs and banners!

3) If you did not grow up playing and watching baseball then yes I'm sure it is boring to you! That does not make me mad at all. In fact I expect and understand that. I have NO desire what so ever to see baseball become popular in Europe. And saying you don’t like it does not bother me at all. If you don’t like baseball then don’t watch it, watch a sport you do like.

That is the main problem with soccer, this attitude that "it’s the best fucking sport in the world and if you don’t LOVE IT you suck". That is so stupid and its people like you that make people like me hate soccer even more.

I really hope the USA does NOT make the WC in 2010. It’s just a waist of time and I would much prefer a lot less coverage of it in our country.

[SFDMALEX]

Im not even going to bother with reading what you wrote.

[Global Warming]

Im not even going to bother with reading what you wrote.
LOL how mature! :roll:

At least you are constant in being a typical soccer fan boy. Insult everyone and then ignore everything everyone else has to say.

[godspeed06]

why is it that people in american choose to hate soccer? like you said, if someone doesnt like baseball, then dont watch it. so why do you have such a different attitude towards soccer?

the us will be good someday. it just takes passion. when that day comes, ill be the first in line to flick off every single one of you international haters of american soccer. i might have to wait a while, but thats ok, the longer it takes, the better it will feel when it happens. until that day, ill be rooting for the netherlands because that country is my next closest tie as far as my family tree goes. slovakia was a close second to NL but theyre fucking out now anyway.

[Global Warming]

why is it that people in american choose to hate soccer? like you said, if someone doesnt like baseball, then dont watch it. so why do you have such a different attitude towards soccer?

the us will be good someday. it just takes passion. when that day comes, ill be the first in line to flick off every single one of you international haters of american soccer. i might have to wait a while, but thats ok, the longer it takes, the better it will feel when it happens. until that day, ill be rooting for the netherlands because that country is my next closest tie as far as my family tree goes. slovakia was a close second to NL but theyre fucking out now anyway.

The difference is that as an American that truly does not like soccer I'm attacked for it over and over. So it immediately puts me on the defensive. If everyone that likes soccer had the same attitude I have towards people that don’t like baseball we would not even be having this conversation.

I just don’t understand why soccer fans have this join us or we hate you attitude. And it is that very attitude that makes me hate the sport. That and I find it very boring.

Like I said I don’t care if you do or don’t like any of the sports that are popular here. I will never attack people with this "like it or die!!" attitude. I would never expect someone in Italy to like baseball.

Edit: and what is funny is if I was a true soccer fan I would still get attacked over and over with comments like "Hah team USA sucks, god I hate you and your team, bunch of fucking pussies!" And other comments like that. So its just a loose loose situation. The game is boring and the sport has the rudest, dumbest fans I have ever seen. I thought American football fans were the worst but I can see thats not true at all.

[antonioledesma]

Im not even going to bother with reading what you wrote.

and I wasted seconds reading his reply :?


back to topic... no surprises this day.
France at last made a decent game, and what a SOB is Henry. He never gave a pass to Trezeguet :? Now I found the reason why the coach didn't put them.

the Swiss team qualified and now will go against Ukraine. Alex, why not a bet against TT? :P

tomorrow Germany vs Sweden. My heart is with Sweden, by the reasonable thing to do is bet to Germany.
and Mexico vs Argentina....OMG... Argentina is the best team in this WC.

[crayzayjay]

Prediction for today's games:

Germany 2 - 1 Sweden

Argentina 2 - 0 Mexico

[davide]

Prediction for today's games:

Germany 2 - 1 Sweden

Argentina 2 - 0 Mexico

nooo... sweden 2 - Germany 1

:) :) :)

[Stikz]

I'm hoping for Argentina and Germany to advance. they both play such an awesome attacking style, it'll hurt the world cup if they don't. But oh well, no predictions, just hope for a great game. 4 min till kickoff !!!!!!!!!

[HeilSvenska]

Und Chermany alvays vins! Muahahahhahahahhahahhahahha!!!!! (Sega Dreamcast commercial)

[davide]

That was utterly the worst game I ever seen... the swedes SUCKED big time...
2 goals in 12 minutes and, when Larsson missed that penalty, all my hopes went out the window...

nice play by germany!

[Chaos in 1983!]

I am disapointed as well...god they played BAD. Too bad...I really wanted sweden to go on...

time to move on....GO ARGENTINA!!!

my predictions for the next game....Argenitna 3 - Mexico 1

[godspeed06]

mexico played well i thought, but argentina is just too strong. messi and tevez are fucking good. i cant believe they start ON THE BENCH!! and that goal in overtime... itll go down in history, sheer brilliance.

[crayzayjay]

^ agree. Messi is a great threat and also holds on to the ball so well. Tevez is just a brute. I'd like to see at least one of them start, in place of Saviola who can always come on as a sub.

Germany are going to be tough to beat in the QF, home advantage and all...

[dingo]

The ARG v MEX game was the best of the world cup so far IMO, the atmosphere and constant attacking was just brilliant! Oh and what a way for Argentina to win the game, goal of the cup!! :shock:

Will be an amazing game they have against Germany.

Tonight we have Eng v Ecuador (2-0 is my guess) and the Dutch v Portugal (1-0 prediction).....I'm really lacking in sleep lately. :D

[EnzoLover]

.... and the Dutch v Portugal (1-0 prediction).....I'm really lacking in sleep lately. :D

I dont think the same :niet: .

Portugal will win. :D

[dingo]

I'm going for them too, they are one of my teams in the work betting competition. :D

[oscargarza88]

it suks Mexico lost!!
:cry:
the goal from argentina was really good though... they were playing good... but not good enough aparently...

[No.1]

Tonight we have Eng v Ecuador (2-0 is my guess) and the Dutch v Portugal (1-0 prediction).....I'm really lacking in sleep lately. :D

As much as i hope your right, i think England will struggle.

Rooney isn't fit, and with Owens injury (Ouch!) we're really lacking in the attacking department.

Even if we get through here, its not as if we can take on the other teams with a distinct lack of convincing wins so far....


Match starts in 3 mins, i'm off! 8)

[bmagni]

it suks Mexico lost!!
:cry:
the goal from argentina was really good though... they were playing good... but not good enough aparently...

it was a sick goal, what i didn't like was that their first goal sucked and that they threw themselves to pretend being fouled... that aint fair play, and the referee sucked in various calls

[HeilSvenska]

England wins! 1-0 against Equador, but i missed the entire match. :(

[No.1]

England wins! 1-0 against Equador, but i missed the entire match. :(

Glad you missed it,.

It was embarrasing.

England stand no chance if they insist on playing like this.

[HeilSvenska]

Lol. I just heard a commentary that went like this.

Interesting game for England. They win, but they certainly didn't play well.

[No.1]

It's true.

All i can say is that it was luck Beckham decided to score a free-kick for England (the first one in 3 years :shock: ).

[TransAm]

Sack the ref... Yellow cards for timewasting? FFS!!!

Robinson's 'injury' was a cute move though ;) Payback?

[gis]

England wins! 1-0 against Equador, but i missed the entire match. :(

Glad you missed it,.

It was embarrasing.

England stand no chance if they insist on playing like this.

i think you coudlnt be more wrong there,i didnt think it was an embaressing match at all,i thought they played as a whole a lot better than they have done in the group stages,the pace and keep of the ball was a lot stronger and the defence wasnt bad either,yeah they had a good chance at 11 mins in the game but Ashley Cole got back and did his job.....and there wasnt much shots bein taken by Ecuador.....

[gucom]

portugal - netherlands 1-0 halftime... i had the feeling we were gonna lose this game, still have the same feeling despite portugal having to play with 10 guys... :(

[No.1]

England wins! 1-0 against Equador, but i missed the entire match. :(

Glad you missed it,.

It was embarrasing.

England stand no chance if they insist on playing like this.

i think you coudlnt be more wrong there,i didnt think it was an embaressing match at all,i thought they played as a whole a lot better than they have done in the group stages,the pace and keep of the ball was a lot stronger and the defence wasnt bad either,yeah they had a good chance at 11 mins in the game but Ashley Cole got back and did his job.....and there wasnt much shots bein taken by Ecuador.....

Solid defence.... not exactly the stuff of world cup winners.

Our goal was scored on a free-kick set piece. The guys can't handle the ball in open play.

Don't get me wrong, they're a good team, but they sure do know how to frustrate their supporters. :bah:

Ecuador we're poor in the box and with crossing. I agree.

[gucom]

the netherlands are out, after a crazy agressive game with a very strict referee... 4 reds, some 18 or so yellow (of which 4 were double ofcourse)...not a classy match to be honest, LOADS of opportunities missed, but anyway we lost... ah well good thing i dont care that much about football :)

[chest3r]

PPPPOOORRRTTTUUUGGGAAAAALLLL!!!!! :prr: :clap:

[LotusGT1]

FUCK FUCK FUCK :cry:

[godspeed06]

FUCK PORTUGAL. i will hate them til the day i die. how the fuck could we not put one in the back of the net?!?! that was easily the most ridiculous and intense game ive ever seen. now i have no one left to root for except for whoever is playing portugal. god damn it!

btw, i cant believe cristiano ronaldo cried, what a baby.

[EnzoLover]

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

What i said? :vamp:

:prr:

The referee didnt help at all... and the dutch was very agressive at the game and where is the fair play ? :bad: :bad: :bad: :bad: .... the field seemed a battlefield... :wink:

But we win, and that is the more important :D

[gis]

England wins! 1-0 against Equador, but i missed the entire match. :(

Glad you missed it,.

It was embarrasing.

England stand no chance if they insist on playing like this.

i think you coudlnt be more wrong there,i didnt think it was an embaressing match at all,i thought they played as a whole a lot better than they have done in the group stages,the pace and keep of the ball was a lot stronger and the defence wasnt bad either,yeah they had a good chance at 11 mins in the game but Ashley Cole got back and did his job.....and there wasnt much shots bein taken by Ecuador.....

Solid defence.... not exactly the stuff of world cup winners.

Our goal was scored on a free-kick set piece. The guys can't handle the ball in open play.

Don't get me wrong, they're a good team, but they sure do know how to frustrate their supporters. :bah:

Ecuador we're poor in the box and with crossing. I agree.

lol england do like to frustate,when were winning as it gets to the last few minutes i do get nervous,but i do think today we had a stronger performance and will use this win in the knockout stages as a confidence boost :D

Bring on Portugal :D but after that game with Holland,now that was an emberassment,16 yellow cars and 4 sent off.... :roll:

[godspeed06]

hey enzolover, im sure youre very happy right now. but with two starters not playing against england, and im sure ronaldo is fine, but on the slight chance that he isnt... what im saying is, youll have a handful with england if they play up to their potential. i think you guys had god on your side today. the chances we missed were just astonishing.

[TopGearNL]

The Portugese had less ball possetion but where far better in using it.
Figo screwed us with Boulahrouz, he didn't deserve that 2nd Yellow card :fist:

Ronaldo cried, what a baby!!!

But all and all where still out of it, moaning will not help...

Luckily I am half English so I will be supporting them since my first Team is out of it, go on England, win it from Portugal, don't let those f*ckers win it, its payback time! 8)

F*cking Portugese...

[EnzoLover]

Ok will see saturday at 4pm :wink:

The target was to be at the first 8 teams, we are there :clap:

[godspeed06]

how can you call just the netherlands players dirty? are u blind? dont forget how lucky you were that the ref didnt see that high kick/dangerous play in the box in the first half. should have been a penalty. the portugal player almost spiked our forwards face!!

[gis]

i dont think the game with Holland today showed Portugal at there best,i think portugal are one of the talented teams out there so its a shame the game was so scrappy,but lets wait 6 more days and not see a repeat of 2004 :D

[TopGearNL]

how can you call just the netherlands players dirty? are u blind? dont forget how lucky you were that the ref didnt see that high kick/dangerous play in the box in the first half. should have been a penalty. the portugal player almost spiked our forwards face!!

Absolutely true!!

BUT the dutch did some dirty stuff aswell, if you don't admit that then your not a real fan IMO

The Portugese played dirty aswell, I have no respect for Figo at all, and Ronaldo is a crybaby of 21 :clap:

[davide]

4 reds and 14 yellow... wow

[TopGearNL]

A record Davide, 4 red cards :oops:

[Stikz]

Figo is a homo, i can't believe he went down after that elbow like he got shot. I hope his ass gets suspended for the next game with that headbutt. I hate England, but i hope they kick the crap out of Portugal. And Deco is a moron for getting that second yellow. Maniche is the only Portuguese player that didn't soil his reputation. Kuyt should have scored on the breakaway. Ultimately Holland has no one to blame but themselves, as usual.

[leblanc2.0]

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9017/orange1dg.png :twisted: :lol:

[TopGearNL]

Don't think thats funny, possibly because I am Dutch, but still I can't see the joke in it :roll:

[EnzoLover]

how can you call just the netherlands players dirty? are u blind? dont forget how lucky you were that the ref didnt see that high kick/dangerous play in the box in the first half. should have been a penalty. the portugal player almost spiked our forwards face!!

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/afp/20060625/i/518956766.jpg

at this?

Offcourse yes, if there is no offside, it was penalty. I agree with you.

i dont think the game with Holland today showed Portugal at there best,i think portugal are one of the talented teams out there so its a shame the game was so scrappy,but lets wait 6 more days and not see a repeat of 2004 :D

We will see and win the best team in the field. :wink:


Absolutely true!!

BUT the dutch did some dirty stuff aswell, if you don't admit that then your not a real fan IMO

The Portugese played dirty aswell, I have no respect for Figo at all, and Ronaldo is a crybaby of 21 :clap:

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/afp/20060625/i/599410913.jpg

and this fault?

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/afp/20060625/i/1250577004.jpg

Only yellow card? BAH!

Player nº3 (i dont want to know his name) placed in danger the physical integrity (then was red card) of Cristiano Ronaldo.

It was o finish with he at the moment .... and no fair play at the second walf.

Was a game with so many feelings...very difficult control it :wink:

[TopGearNL]

His name is Khalid Boulharouz Enzolover, he playes in the Bundesliga and his nickname is the Bulldozer (no idea why :roll: )

But I agree with you, though both sides did play hard and rough

[godspeed06]

the foul with ronaldo was certainly not a straight red card. yes, ronaldo got a dead leg or a slight contusion, but thats what happens. it was a spikes up tackle in the midfield and got the deserved yellow card. what dissappointed me the most about the netherlands was in the second half when the sporting thing to do was give the ball back to portugal... i cant remember who he was, but he just start dribbling. the whole field was frozen for a few seconds and everyone on the portugal team started throwing up their arms and screaming about it. i thought that was disgraceful. i dont care how intense the game is, or what the situation is. if the ball is kicked out for an injured player it should be returned... also, i just cant believe we didnt get one goal, all those chances, one even off teh crossbar... we just couldnt buy one.

[dingo]

AUSTRALIA v ITALY TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A huge moment for Australian soccer, its the furthest we've ever got but how sweet it would be to get to the final 8.....fingers crossed. :D

[Ghostbat]

AUSTRALIA v ITALY TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A huge moment for Australian soccer, its the furthest we've ever got but how sweet it would be to get to the final 8.....fingers crossed. :D

My fingers are crossed for Australia too.

[gis]

AUSTRALIA v ITALY TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A huge moment for Australian soccer, its the furthest we've ever got but how sweet it would be to get to the final 8.....fingers crossed. :D

my fingers are also crossed for you guys,i think australia has played really well this world cup....and to be honest the way Italy has played....i think we could see you australians in the final 8 :)

[dingo]

with all this international support we are sure to win..... ;)

[crayzayjay]

England - Ecuador
England's best play of the game was Robinson feigning injury. Nuff said.
Lennon should start in place of Beckham, or at least find a way of accommodating both. Lampard could sit on the bench with Becks taking his place in the middle. Lennon can beat players and get a quick ball in, which is something that England desperately need (Joe Cole always cuts in, slows the game down).

Portugal - Holland
Poor refereeing, but both sides have attitude problems, could cost Portugal dearly. I hate Van Persie. He's a c*nt.

Australia - Italy
I wouldn't be too surprised if Australia pulled something off here...

Switzerland - Ukraine
I have a slight bias towards Ukraine to win this one; Shev is class and should get as many games as possible in the world cup. Prediction: Ukraine 2-0

[SFDMALEX]

Guys Im so nervous. Having my country in its first world cup, getting out of the group stage.

Lets the best team win.

[dingo]

I know the feeling Alex!

Italy are down to 10 men so this is Australias big chance, lets hope we can take advantage of it. :D

[SFDMALEX]

I know the feeling Alex!

Italy are down to 10 men so this is Australias big chance, lets hope we can take advantage of it. :D

I hope Australia plays Ukraine in the 1/4 finals. :D

Afaik there are quite a few Ukrainian immigrants in Australia.

[Stikz]

Australia just got jobbed. Grosso took a dive in the box. Hard luck boys. :x

[bmagni]

FORZA ITALIA !!

[SFDMALEX]

Italy with a fucking gift :(

[dingo]

fucking dirty Italians, sooooo lucky!!! THe dickhead tripped over Neill, no way is that a penalty!

Thats the one thing I hate about soccer so much, one sh!t decision like that can cost a country so much..... :(

BS BS BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Stikz]

/\/\/\ well neill committed to the challenge too easy, but you know that Grosso was looking for the penalty. Its bullsh!t that Italy gets to go on with a call like that.

[bmagni]

didnt get to see the game live, i was watching the live cast in the world cup site. So i didn't get to see if it was a penalty or not.
Last WC they got eliminated by Korea and the referee was calling in favor of Korea, now they got a call in their favor to go to quarter finals... its pure justice :D

[stracing]

We Were Robbed of A Chance!!!
Boo....
:fist:

[Stikz]

didnt get to see the game live, i was watching the live cast in the world cup site. So i didn't get to see if it was a penalty or not.
Last WC they got eliminated by Korea and the referee was calling in favor of Korea, now they got a call in their favor to go to quarter finals... its pure justice :D

Justice? THe hell with that. What kind of Italian soccer team makes a penalty to win the game? Its ludicrous. he should have pulled a Baggio.

[SFDMALEX]

Well it was a tough call.

He did slide in too early and obstructed the attackers path withouht any challenge on the ball.


Its a tough call.........

[TopGearNL]

Austraulia got screwed by those garlic bread tossers

I feel sorry for Guus :cry:

[SFDMALEX]

Damn just been reading some European press on Ukraine.

Fucking haters the Euros are. God damn, I never seen so much hate towards a team. "shouldnt even be in the round of 16"...."the swiss couldnt possible hope for an easier opponent"....."Ukraine is Shevchenko and some 10 other guys"...


Well fuck you all. I am officaily not going for any European country anymore. Let Brazil or Argentina win.

[TopGearNL]

Im Sorry, Fuck me :mrgreen:

I personally support The Ukraine aswell dude :|

[SFDMALEX]

I personally support The Ukraine aswell dude :|

:)

Well I personaly expected some better press.


But I went to a Ukraine site were they collected a few lead articles from Europe and they all hate on Ukraine.'

"They dont deserve to even be here" like wtf kinda low blow shit is this? :?

[TopGearNL]

The dutch press didn't do anything to provocate the Ukraine as far as I know, sure there are people in the newspapers that have their opinions, but they also have in other countries about the dutch.

[LotusGT1]

Damn just been reading some European press on Ukraine.

Fucking haters the Euros are. God damn, I never seen so much hate towards a team. "shouldnt even be in the round of 16"...."the swiss couldnt possible hope for an easier opponent"....."Ukraine is Shevchenko and some 10 other guys"...


Well fuck you all. I am officaily not going for any European country anymore. Let Brazil or Argentina win.

Well, although the press here in Europe is tough at most teams you got to admit that Ukraine didn't bring much on the field. Last game was truely pathetic. But you shouldn't take the press too seriously. I hope for you they win tonight, after all these games everybody seems able to win.

The level is pisspoor in 90% of the games so far though, definately not the best world cup so far.

[davide]

Australia got fucked... I feel sorry for you guys, that referee was out of line!

[bmagni]

Austraulia got screwed by those garlic bread tossers

I feel sorry for Guus :cry:

F*cking Itayes, Shite-eyes :fist:

dude calm down, WTF is wrong with you and all your insults ???

[davide]

Ukraine versus Switzerland 3 - 0 after penalty!

Very nice ukraine!

[TopGearNL]

I wanted the Ukraine to win

Sorry TT :mrgreen:

[Everlasting]

Austraulia got screwed by those garlic bread tossers

I feel sorry for Guus :cry:

F*cking Itayes, Shite-eyes :fist:

that is fucking racist!

and fuck Guus he got his multi-million dollar deal with the russians no need to feel sorry for him

and just for the record that red card Materazzi got wasn't justified, the penalty was!

[godspeed06]

hahaha, the game went all the way to penalties and the swiss STILL got shutout... pathetic.

[TopGearNL]

I apologize if I offended any people in this topic with my Italians Comment

It was never my attention, and NO I am not a racist

It was out of order and I am not trying to use an excuse, its just that I was angry that first Holland was out and then my favorite Austraulia :cry:

I apologize again to all those who were offended :!:

[Everlasting]

apology accepted :)

and it's too bad for Holland they've always been among my favorite teams




Forza Italia!

[TopGearNL]

LOL I just realized I actually have the Italians as the WorldCup Winners in the Toto at work, might be some money in it :)

Forza Italia indeed :twisted:

[bmagni]

and just for the record that red card Materazzi got wasn't justified, the penalty was!

The Materazzi red car was totally undeserved, and Australia couldn't take advantage of that...
I say the penalty is tough call, though he probably could have avoided the slide and make the goal. But he went for the foul :roll: and Italy took advantage of that

I apologize if I offended any people in this topic with my Italians Comment

It was never my attention, and NO I am not a racist

It was out of order and I am not trying to use an excuse, its just that I was angry that first Holland was out and then my favorite Austraulia :cry:

I apologize again to all those who were offended :!:

:D

[SFDMALEX]

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/fifa/20060626/i/4098099427.jpg
:wink:

Tough game, well matched teams, but Ukraine did have the better game. We where in the Swiss box much more then they have been in ours.


And no goals conceded in the penalty shootout, how can you argue that. Besides the fact that the crossbar hit was well covered has it not hit the bar.

Next game we get 2 of our suspended players back. So I really think we got a chance against the Italians.

I think it will be a good game.

Bring on the drama queens. :P

[SFDMALEX]

also one thing about the ukraine game, wtf was up with not calling any penalties?? sure the refees were talked to after yesterdays bs but shit man, call it when its there!!


Yeah there could have been penalties both ways. And there was some fucking tackles on our players that needed the medics and there was no cards nothing.

[SFDMALEX]

Well, although the press here in Europe is tough at most teams you got to admit that Ukraine didn't bring much on the field. Last game was truely pathetic. But you shouldn't take the press too seriously. I hope for you they win tonight, after all these games everybody seems able to win.


I agree they havent brought much.


Game 1 we loose badly because we simply didnt play or bring anything to the table.

Game 2 we won and set the record straight.

Game 3 we won a game that we could have tied against the ex African Champions. Who btw did score a goal against Spain in that 2:1 game.

Game 4 we beat a the group winner in Switzerland, in a game that everyone said the Swiss are going to win.


They havent been playing great, but they are playing with their hearts.

This game they worked hard, even the commentator said "Ukraine has been one of the hardest working teams I saw in this tournament".


Lets play Italy next, see how that goes. By the way Italy has been playing I think Ukraine has a chance...but our journey might end there.

[Z3uS]

Brazil vs. Ghana Tomorrow! I can't wait! :)

[Z3uS]

Brazil vs. Ghana Tomorrow! I can't wait! :)

i know i know!! Ghana is going to kick some ass!! :P

ill be honest, its nothing against Brazil but i want Ghana to win!! :oops:


it pretty much comes down to this, if Portugal cant win it all then i want a underdog team to win it. Ghana or Ukraine!!


and the italians have been playing like total shit, so i really dont think Ukraine should have a hard time with them at all!!
Fair enough, although i wanted Portugal to win The Netherlands. I think Felipão deserves to go far in this Cup.

[TopGearNL]

Brazil - Ghana (half-time) is 2-0

Nothing to say to the first goal of brazil, but the second just before halftime isn't legitimate, Adriano was offside twice!!!

I hope Ghana wins, but its fixt that Brazil will win, Im sure of it...

[TopGearNL]

Well Brazil won, not a surprise, still what a team :shock:

Should see some great football the rest of the tournament :mrgreen:

[Darkel]

France-Spain tonight ... I'm afraid we're definitely not gonna make it, I'm expecting something like 2-0 or 2-1 for Spain.
Anyway the winner will be playing against Brasil on saturday http://www.supercarfrance.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_peur.gif

[TopGearNL]

I think Spain will win it too to be honest, but you never know :mrgreen:

[Z3uS]

Brazil vs. Ghana Tomorrow! I can't wait! :)

i know i know!! Ghana is going to kick some ass!! :P

ill be honest, its nothing against Brazil but i want Ghana to win!! :oops:


it pretty much comes down to this, if Portugal cant win it all then i want a underdog team to win it. Ghana or Ukraine!!


and the italians have been playing like total shit, so i really dont think Ukraine should have a hard time with them at all!!
Fair enough, although i wanted Portugal to win The Netherlands. I think Felipão deserves to go far in this Cup.

Congrats on Brazil, winning but Ghana just couldnt get a break in the scoring dept, they played a really good game and Brazil is going to have to step it up a notch in the next game!!
I hope Spain beats France, cause we ere eliminated twice by the french :(

[Darkel]

France-Brasil on saturday, that's gonna be damn tough :shock:

[Everlasting]

VIVE LA FRANCE !!

oh how i wanted the french to win - great game!

[Darkel]

Well dani, I would've said the same if Spain had won, looks like everybody's fed up :wink:

An impressive match I have to say, quite a change after those boring 1-0 of the last days.

[TopGearNL]

France-Brasil on saturday, that's gonna be damn tough :shock:

1998, ring a bell?? :wink:

[antonioledesma]

damn... spain lost. I had my hopes on them :|

[Darkel]

1998, ring a bell?? :wink:

Yep, but that was 8 years ago, as you said above, you never know :|

[TopGearNL]

True, but what I meant with it is that nobody expected it, just like now...

But your right, oh wait I'm right, you never know :mrgreen:

[Stikz]

germany - argentina will be the best game. luckily i'm off friday and saturday. :D

[SFDMALEX]

I have to say I wanted France to win.

My good mate (hes from Asturias Spain) has been real dick to me and Ukraine so I got pissed last night and was praying for Ukraine to win, besides the fact that I read some really "low blow" poor press (Spanish press) on the Ukrainian team for the Swiss match.

[antonioledesma]

Germany-Argentina ----> Argentina
Italy-Ukraine ----> Italy (sorry Alex :mrgreen: )
Brazil-France ----> Brazil
England-Portugal. ----> the most difficult choice.... England, not because they have the best team, but Portugal will not have 3 players

[TopGearNL]

Exactly my forcast /\/\ :twisted:

[yg60m]

Brazil is the favorite but from what I've seen in the other matches, it can happen ...
France's game improved a lot too but it will be hard to keep the rythm because french are quite old now.