View Full Version : Fatal 512TR crash in Cali...
http://www.nbc4.tv/news/9263842/detail.html#
Not a pretty sight - and sad for the car guys having fun behind the wheel :(
sameerrao
05-24-2006, 05:52 PM
That too a cop at the wheel ...
Well - cops are allowed to have fun when they are off duty :)
Let's face it, if they had been in a picku truck it would be a footnote on page 37 of the TV guide.. but because it is a "high perfromance sports car" it makes the news.
The 512TR is an old school supercar, and while being a H-12 and all that, was probably not at that high rate of speed when the accident occured, but even a 100mph "over the cliff" offroad excursion will hurt.. hurt real bad.
saadie
05-24-2006, 05:58 PM
:( :|
666fast
05-24-2006, 06:33 PM
Not to be insensistive to the fact that 2 people died in this crash, it is indeed a sad event, but how can a police officer afford a Ferrari? ...and not an extremely old or run down one at that?
...replica?
...kit car?
Saved for a damn long time, spent little money on other things. 512TR's are expensive, but not that expensive.
Not to be insensistive to the fact that 2 people died in this crash, it is indeed a sad event, but how can a police officer afford a Ferrari? ...and not an extremely old or run down one at that?
I was wondering the same exact think....... :hmm:
Anyway - that was a serious serious crash :?
RIP
... and what a nice car this silver 512tr was :(
Huh?
A 512TR ia a $100K car. After 15 years on the force, making maybe $60K a year, not including overtime and bonus pay - and cosidering he might have good credit and put $50K down and paid off the rest at $800 or so a month why couldn't a cop (or any other hard working person) afford a 512TR?
See - not to sound insensitive, but I have noticed MOST folks seem to worship people who own super cars like they are some kind of god or something just because they have "unobtaibly expensive" cars - when point of fact is that anyone can afford something if you plan correctly - and remember you must not always think of super performance as the sole playground of the uber wealthy - a used super car might be cheaper, but it is just as fast and capable as it was when it was new.
;)
All y'all need to stop thinking int terms of "only the super rich can have col fast cars' ;) :P
ZfrkS62
05-24-2006, 08:56 PM
RIP to both occupants
hopefully someone doesnt' decide to sue Ferrari, the cops estate, the actress who's fence they crashed into and the power company for putting the pole there like they fucking did with the CGT :roll:
I would like to know what happened to cause the car to veer left, but i have a feeling someone is going to fudge some numbers in the investigation so that it doesn't look like the cop fucked up :roll:
Veered.. probably is their explanation for a snap over steer moment .
Probably over cooked it into a bend and the car just got away from hime - no foair no foul. One of those "shit happens" things.
ZfrkS62
05-24-2006, 09:34 PM
Veered.. probably is their explanation for a snap over steer moment .
Probably over cooked it into a bend and the car just got away from hime - no foair no foul. One of those "shit happens" things.
unfortunately that "oh shit" moment cost 2 people their lives :(
Zot09
05-25-2006, 01:25 AM
Sad news to hear; rest in peace.
nthfinity
05-25-2006, 09:40 AM
^^^^^
that would be difficult to buy one under a recruit's paygrade... but detectives, and guys who have moved up in the force often make upwards 60-80k USD per year... in the right areas... and in Malabu, im sure its even higher
here, a waiter isn't slumped into anywhere near that of a police officer's social and economic abilities... unless the waiter is going to school for the criminal justice system.
a builder... well, periodically, builders start up thier own contracting business; and make a fortune... and the workers after they are established often drive around 30-40k cars/trucks ;)
Not to be insensistive to the fact that 2 people died in this crash, it is indeed a sad event, but how can a police officer afford a Ferrari? ...and not an extremely old or run down one at that?
...replica?
...kit car?
Saved for a damn long time, spent little money on other things. 512TR's are expensive, but not that expensive.
Indeed, same old wrong comment.. actually many ppl can afford a Ferrari, even a V12. Not only a cop is not badly paid (well, I actually have no idea about US, but around here they start at some 4200 USD / month and the pay raise quite quickly to 6000+ without major efforts), but well, you just have to live in a pretty modest house, avoid having 3 childrens and a wife, and hop, you'll have your Ferrari quite easily afterall...
Pretty sad thought that when an average person buy a Ferrari, everybody point the finger wondering where he stole the money, while when the same person buy a nice house and send his 2 or 3 sons to University, nobody seems to argue :bad:
Anyway, well.. sad news actually :(
ZfrkS62
05-25-2006, 11:59 PM
^^the kids thing is key. unless you have a decent nest egg before having any, you'll be hard pressed to hold on to any cash.
Not to be insensistive to the fact that 2 people died in this crash, it is indeed a sad event, but how can a police officer afford a Ferrari? ...and not an extremely old or run down one at that?
...replica?
...kit car?
Lots of cops have Ferraris!!! Didn't you ever watch Miami Vice?
:lol: :lol:
Caplax40
05-27-2006, 09:12 PM
^^^^^^^^^^ There's a local police officer (don't know his position exactly) that has a beautiful black 348.
sikx5
05-28-2006, 01:12 AM
Poor car and drivers. Defintley bad news when an incidents like this happens. :cry:
pimrusis
05-29-2006, 02:27 AM
I mean, sure most people could afford to buy a Ferrari... but most of those people couldn't afford to insure it, gas it up, pay for maintainence or afford the other car that a person who owned one probably would need.
Although its good to think that someone can live the dream.
LotusGT1
05-29-2006, 02:44 PM
sure they can have all the fun they want, but they are suppose to be adhearing to the laws that they enforce which i doubt very well he was doing. so, i dont feel for him one bit!!
:roll:
Sometimes you're such a dick.
TransAm
05-30-2006, 04:33 PM
I mean, sure most people could afford to buy a Ferrari... but most of those people couldn't afford to insure it, gas it up, pay for maintainence or afford the other car that a person who owned one probably would need.
Although its good to think that someone can live the dream.
Cheaper than you'd think if you are only using the car as a 'toy' for the weekends.
As others have said, the key to being able to afford supercars on average wage is being very careful with your money and staying single!
As TT said, most people end up spending all their money on raising children and providing a home for the family.
Mortgage on a four bedroom house in a nice area might be 4 times as much as renting a one bedroom flat in an ok-but-nothing-special area...
Mattk
06-04-2006, 09:58 PM
Not to be insensistive to the fact that 2 people died in this crash, it is indeed a sad event, but how can a police officer afford a Ferrari? ...and not an extremely old or run down one at that?
...replica?
...kit car?
Owning a nice car does not necessarily mean one is rich. Some people want to own a Ferrari, so they save up to pay the deposit, and live within their means to pay off the loan. Ferraris are not prohibitively expensive, although you could probably buy a small apartment with the money you need to purchase one.
Policemen in New South Wales start off at around $42000, so around $30-31k in US money. Considering this bloke has been a cop for some time, you would expect him to earn a decent wage. Also, Americans earn slightly more money than Australians, on average, but the cost of living is a bit higher...
DeMoN
06-04-2006, 10:37 PM
It all depends on priorities... he might have a crap house.
novass
06-04-2006, 10:50 PM
I am not sure why everyone keeps refering to this car as a 512TR when everything I have seen says that this is a Testarossa and yes, there is a difference. Since everyone already seems to be preoccupied with the cost factor, a Testarossa will fetch anywhere in the neighboorhood of $40,000 to $80,000 USD and a 512TR will bring $80,000 to $110,000.
While they are very similar in design, the cars have some significant differences. Most notable, size of the car (512 is smaller) and horsepower (Testarossa has 390 vs the 512's 428)
I think the main reason I will continue to call it a 512TR is the year given. ;) If it is a 1993 car then it should be a 512TR if I am not mistaken - didn't the Tstarossa run from 1984 through 1991, the 512TR from 1992 through 1994 and the 512M from 1994 through 1996?
R8audi
06-05-2006, 04:33 AM
Did you see how passenger side of the car was completely crushed... They must have hit that telephone pole real hard!
I thought they designed their poles with a weak point at the base so when incidents like this occur they just snap over.
Oh well, still hectic! :?
novass
06-05-2006, 04:11 PM
I think the main reason I will continue to call it a 512TR is the year given. ;) If it is a 1993 car then it should be a 512TR if I am not mistaken - didn't the Tstarossa run from 1984 through 1991, the 512TR from 1992 through 1994 and the 512M from 1994 through 1996?
You are correct sir. I didnt even look at the year :oops: Carry on LOL
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