View Full Version : Its not big and its not clever but who does it?
TransAm
01-02-2006, 06:21 PM
I am talking about 'getting the back end out'
I guess this is really going to only apply to RWD although yes one can get the back end out on a FWD/4WD, but you have to be going a little bit quicker.
I'm talking here about when you take a 90 degree first gear corner, turning into a side road, that kind of thing, and letting physics slide the car round, not massive powersildes.
Well, like I said, it's not big, it's not clever but it is quite enjoyable... :wink:
NB, I dont do this if there are other cars about, people waiting to cross the road etc
komotar
01-02-2006, 06:35 PM
well, I tested a Skoda Octavia 4X4 the past week and we hed lot's and lot's on new snow and let me tell you, when you turn the ESP off, does that thing go sideways or what.....I just couldn0t stop driving around. Just put in in third or second an flor it, and even if you're in a straight line, the car tends to go sideways.
Probably the most fun I had with a car in december. The "drifts" were easy to control and seemed endless. At the end I was connecting corners like just the way I wanted to.
And in general, yeah, if I get a rear wheel car into my hands or a small fast FWD I usually try to do something with it. If not for anything else just to see, how good does the car transfer the weight from one side to the other....you know, sometimes quich S bends just aren't wnough :twisted:
TransAm
01-02-2006, 06:37 PM
God help me if I ever get a RWD rental car... tee hee.
I'd push the S2000 more if it wasn't me that had paid for it lol
Interesting about the 4x4 going sideways though..sounds like a lot of fun
T-Bird
01-02-2006, 06:44 PM
I powerslide all the time in both the T-bird and the Pathfinder it's great fun.
TransAm
01-02-2006, 06:47 PM
My friend (another of us Brits just recently moved here from UK) has bought an 02 Boxster S and REALLY knows how to drive it.
He had a Skoda 135 and a Ford Granada before - those two cars are both RWD.
I will get a vid of him sliding the Boxster about and post it up (also going to do a S2000+Boxster photoshoot but that's for another thread) :wink:
DeMoN
01-02-2006, 07:02 PM
I do it! Got caught by school police doing it too. G35 dont have good turning so when I do a U turn, I press the clutch, rev and release to make a small 180 to ensure not hitting the curb.
nthfinity
01-03-2006, 01:01 AM
i do it when phisics allow it :lol:
so, when its wet/dirt... and my Jeep is in 2wd, i just load up the side i want to kick out, then gas it more then i 'ought' to, and a nice controlable slide that would make Tiff prould
when its dry out, i really have to load up the side i want to kick out, once out... its controlable, but with the open rear diff... the power turns to a puff of smoke on the inside-rear tire, and the car will loose its massive angle
when its slick out (snow/ice/slush/mud) i engate 4x4 :twisted:
basically, i gas it, and can do ANYTHING i want :-D
type 1:
gas it, turn in, straighten steering... controll angle of slide with gas pedal
type 2:
gas it, catch slide with steering, and modulate the throttle
type 3:
turn in, gas it, turn wheel to way i want to next slide, lift off, gas it repeate
type 4:
go 50-60 mph, scandanavian flick + gas, neutral... hard steering in to throw the front end back around
type 5:
reverse, steering out, gas it... repeat
type 6:
reverse, 20-30 mph or whatever, neutral, hard steering to throw the front end around, 2nd/3rd gas and straighten (or gas and turn opposite for 540-720)
Well, has any other RWD other, I do it quite often, especially when wet :) you know it's dumb, but you just can't resist :D and you don't need to do a 2 miles long powerslide to enjoy it ;)
dingo
01-03-2006, 05:44 AM
Not me.
Well I got a civic Type R it's FWD.. If you are turning and suddnely liftoff the tail just brakes loss.. I really like doing that in that car..
The Evo works in the same way but you need to be going a lot faster entring a corner ..But not as fun as the S2000.. I can't really hold the Evo sideways for long it adjest it self in sec.. S2000 well it's very easy to brake the end holding it is a matter of balancing the throttle and the steering wheel, but very easy to loss control of the car..So I try not to do it in the S2000.. The Civic on the other hand is easy to do so and very very easy to control it as it's in a very low speed.
T-Bird: Pathfinder as in Nissan Pathfinder.. the 4X4.. :mrgreen: If so you got balls doing that in that car..
T-Bird
01-03-2006, 08:02 AM
Hell yes Evo I do it in that truck all the time even donuts and I've done 1 E-brake 180 before but that was pushing it. That truck can lay down some crazy patches too from a stoplight.
Albutzu
01-03-2006, 09:08 AM
I only bought a rwd car becuase I didn't know any better :P
TransAm
01-03-2006, 10:48 AM
^ I remember the avatar :lol:
sameerrao
01-03-2006, 05:55 PM
I have slid the rear in a RWD Boxster once and in a stupid Ford Ranger pickup and Mitsubishi Endeavor. My friend who had a S2K mentioned that it was absurdly easy to slide that car in the wet.
Can't seem to do it in my S4 under normal or fast driving conditions - don't want to risk doing something stupid just to find out.
My next car will be RWD - so I am sure tail out shenanigans would be on the menu.
Of course our dear friend RC might be no stranger to a lil rear wheel action :D
DeMoN
01-03-2006, 06:17 PM
its best to practice when wet, you dont need that much speed to make it slide and tires wont fade as fast. Thats how I learned to control it.
TransAm
01-03-2006, 06:53 PM
What is wet again? :lol:
Hell yes Evo I do it in that truck all the time even donuts and I've done 1 E-brake 180 before but that was pushing it. That truck can lay down some crazy patches too from a stoplight.
I got the bigger brother but I dought you heard about it Nissan Partol but I can't do much with that big thing coz it would flip.. You on the other hand got guts doing a 180 E-Brake.. hehehe..
T-Bird
01-03-2006, 11:34 PM
yeah I've heard of the Patrol but we don't have that here it goes from the Pathfinder to the Pathfinder-Armada nothing in between. I have done drifts in Super duty pickups before though but obviously I learned it all since I got my license in the winter and being that the Thunderbird was my first car I had to learn quick (V-8 RWD with an LSD means you learn quickly hence the single handed powerslide)
crayzayjay
01-11-2006, 07:42 AM
Even in my shitty FWD 75bhp Golf i've gotten the back end out. On dry roads, and without using the handbrake :D
I do it rarely though, the car handles like a boat :lol:
ARMAN
01-11-2006, 01:30 PM
...Next car in mind - M3 E30... probably in a year or so :twisted:
What date should I book my tickets on? :P
I park with handbrake when come home(when theres ice or snow ofcourse 8) ) cause otherwise I have to turn my car around in 2-3 parts, so in the morning I dont have to sruggle turning it cause the road is full of parked cars just pulling the handbrake and a little bit work with accelarator does the job :)
TransAm
01-11-2006, 08:33 PM
^ I'm coming to Prague just to see this with my own eyes! :shock: :lol: :lol:
dutchmasterflex
01-11-2006, 09:31 PM
there's nothing like the feeling of sliding into a corner.. I have more experience with FWD over steer.. i pretty much learned how to drive by whipping around my mom's paseo convertible on mountain roads..
Had a real scary experience driving my friend's E30 318i Baur back from manhatten.. as I was getting on to the george washington bridge back end swings out I slowly catch it just barely before hitting the inside wall of the ramp.. was my first time in the rain with no LSD and RWD..
ive managed to get the back end out of the fiesta a few times,there is a certain few round-a-bouts in my town which when taken at the right speed,especially in damp conditions its easy to get the back end out and control it :D
black_magician
02-01-2006, 11:35 PM
God help me if I ever get a RWD rental car... tee hee.
I broke a transmission on a rented ford explorer once.
I was in an open field 'getting the back OUT' when it stopped shifting :( .
Top Gear Top Tip, Explorers can't go sidways off-road. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
ferrarif1fan89
02-02-2006, 12:11 AM
where i live, i there are LOTS of old gravel roads that they smooth out and are travelled sparsely, and since my caddy is AWD, i get MONSTER 4wd drifts. its incredible tossing a car the size of it around, not necessarily fast (or i'd bin it REAL quick), but just feeling it slide the way you want to. its an incredible and addicting feeling.
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