MY04 Subaru WRX (Opinions needed....)

[corvette97]

hey dude! your car looks awesome!!!

im still thinking wether to get a 2005 wrx or a 2004 leon,

i just have a question how many kms per galon are you getting with the current mods?

Get a WRX, you won't regret it. I had a few other cars on my mind when buying and I'm so happy I went with this car.

With the current mods I get use about 11L/100km, which is about 22 mpg according to the online convertors. It is actually still very similar to stock, thanks to great work by my tuner.

if you dont mind i have a few more question... :oops:

1. is that MPG normal driving or very conservative driving?

2. when you are hitting 100 km/h whats your RPM? (a lot of highway driving 100 km/h when i go to the coast)

i recently tested a MY03 impreza with greddy turbo-back, it was impressive but laggy but i definitely fell in love with the car, so im looking for a 05 with the best interior. i wount even think in a leon if i wouldnt know the things i know about imprezas, a guy was killed and his car was found later without wheels and interior, another guy got his 04 and got stolen 2 months later and finally my cousin who has his 2nd STI got the first stolen

so im really :?

[dingo]

1. That fuel consumption is my average weekly usage, which includes driving to work (freeway) and going out at night etc. If I go for a spirited drive on a Sunday morning then I might get 100km less out of a tank, but you have to accept that.

2. At 100kmh I sit on 3000rpm.

Yes they are laggy when stock but once you get into modifications you can reduce it considerably with the right tuning/mods. I hit full boost just after 3000rpm now, really doesn't bother me.....if there is lag then change down a gear. ;)

As for theft it isn't a problem here anymore. Not sure if US cars are the same but all Aussie WRX's (02 onwards I think) are fitted with a Brant Alarm which requires you entering a 4-digit PIN before the car will start. I haven't heard of anyone locally get their WRX/STi stolen.

Insurance may be an issue aswell, better get a quote before you buy. I am paying $AU 1200 a year in insurance which is actually reasonable considering I am 24yo and the agreed value of the car (with mods) is $AU 40K.

[corvette97]

so you when spirited driving you get 100 km out of a tank or 100 km less on a tank ?

[dingo]

100km LESS out of a tank....or about 20-25% worse fuel economy.

Thats pretty much full-on Touge style :P driving though.

[corvette97]

oh i see, so i just have to find a good place to service the car and that would be it, and get a GPS alarm thats all. and wait till jan or feb cust i cant sell my car right know cus its a 2005... bastards! haha :D

thanxs on the info Dingo! :D

you have a turbo back or just cat back

[Erez]

all Aussie WRX's (02 onwards I think) are fitted with a Brant Alarm which requires you entering a 4-digit PIN before the car will start.

over here every car is fitted with it.. you can't get you car insured without it..
if not perfect as the most important thing is to have it fitted by someone you trust, cause he knows where the tracking device is..

100km LESS out of a tank....or about 20-25% worse fuel economy.

Thats pretty much full-on Touge style :P driving though.

I have to say, last car I had all i could do was full-on Touge style driving.. :roll: :lol: just couldn't bring myself to drive "normally" :lol: (got avg of 300-350km for 55L tank)

[TopGearNL]

Updates looking fine Dingo! :mrgreen:

[dingo]

corvette97 - I have a full 3" Turbo-back Exhaust, bear in mind you should get an ECU retune (I have) after fitting one. ;)

[corvette97]

well we dont have any custon tuning here in guatemala, not even a dyno and the only 2 easy options are UTEC or COBB AP, so i,ll go with Cobb acces port (500usd cheaper)

i just have to figure out if ill have any trouble since they only have maps for 91oct maps (i think), we get 93 95 and 98 oct, we'll see. do you think i might have problems if i fit only a turbo-back? i know that i wont get all the potential of a turbo back without tuning, but problems? let me know :D

so, whats next on your mod list? you should get a STI hood scoop... that and the stock WRX wing looks hot! and then some hids :D

[dingo]

The general advice is to get a retune after fitting a TBE, not that I've heard of any major damage occuring when not doing it. It may run a little rich and be sluggish, up to you in the end. Have a little read of the US WRX forums as their advice will be more applicable to you.

My next mod? Bigger turbo and intercooler, fuel pump, injectors and a retune....next 4 weeks or so hopefully, just need to save a little more $$. :D I will fit an STi scoop eventually too to help get more air into the TMIC.

[corvette97]

wow!! what turbo are you getting VF39??

[dingo]

Nah a VF34 most likely, still trying to find one though. Hoping for about 400hp or so, should be fun! :D

[ViperASR]

Hey Dingo, out of curiosity, if you are spending all this money on your WRX to make it go faster, why didn't you just start with an STI? They have the 3.0L motor and such, plus a better suspension set-up.

[tuffguy]

US STi has a 2.5L.

The 2004 WRX only had a 2.0L.

[gis]

the imprezas here have the 2.5 in the 06 models onwards

and im guessing he got a WRX because straight out an STI and insurance cost a lot more than a regular WRX,and to be honest i think he is as fast as an STI now and even with mods cost less than what an STI would have

[tuffguy]

Turbo's gonna cost $1k, intercooler's gonna be $1k, it's gonna need wider rims/tires, suspension will need to be upgraded, stronger clutch, fuel pump, etc. If you consider how much money one would have to put into a $24k WRX to make it perform like a $30k STi, you might as well buy an STi.

And the warranty would be shot to hell. No dealership will honor any warranty claims.

That is, if he got it new. If he got it used, then it's a different story.

[dingo]

gis is right - after these mods I'd blow away a stock STi (its close already as is with 320hp) and I still haven't spent the $AU 10K extra that you'd pay for an STi here.

A year ago when I was looking for a car I didn't have the money for an STi anyway, plus insurance is even worse. This way I get an individual WRX the way I want it rather than a stock STi I couldn't mod for awhile. ;) Plus I they didn't bring red STis into Australia, so factor in a paint job on top of the STi cost. :P

I don't need wider rims/tyres (have 18", 225 tyres currently) or a clutch at this stage. Suspension has already been tweaked too. I will be getting a turbo, bigger TMIC, fuel pump, decapped injectors and an ECU retune - I will get change from $AU 4500.

I bought it 2nd hand (a year old, 16,000kms), but my warranty is over soon anyway so I'm not too worried about voiding it.

The stock market is booming and my investments are paying off, might aswell spend them and have some fun! :D

[gis]

yea i remmeber talkin to you about the price of the car and how much more an STI is.should be great once the other mods are done.400hp must be good fun :D

[corvette97]

you're gonna have to upgrade to a STi tranny, as far as i know the wrx stock tranny is good for "only" 350-400 hp :D

btw today i went to the dealer and theres a 2004 wrx 11500 kms RED!!! 17k usd, but dont want to copy you h :) heheh guess i'll have to wait for a 2005 blue, black or white

[dingo]

Yeah I don't think a gearbox upgrade will be needed at this stage, I have friends running similar setups with the standard 'box.......I guess I'll find out when it breaks. :D

[dingo]

400+hp here I come..... :twisted:

Note: 550cc injectors missing from this photo.

http://www.ozcarsightings.com/temp/mods.jpg

[MartijnGizmo]

Woah, awesome!!!!!

[cooperluke]

WOW... you're going to dyno it after,right?

Wanna see the results!! :D

[dingo]

BTW, I dont mean 400hp at the wheels.....might get around 280-300hp ATW which equates to around 400 at the flywheel. ;)

cooperluke: yes of course I will dyno it, thats where the ECU tuning takes place so I will get before and after runs.

[gis]

drooool

looks good mate,cant wait to see the results :D
any idea when it will all be ready and fully fitted?

[dingo]

drooool

looks good mate,cant wait to see the results :D
any idea when it will all be ready and fully fitted?

Its booked into the workshop next Tuesday (12th Dec) for fitting and then tuning the ECU (couple of hours) will happen either that night or on Wednesday.

I can't wait to get the external wastegate on (purple thing on the left in the photo), its gonna sound insane when that opens! :twisted:

[TT]

That's exciting dude!

[ARMAN]

Ho-lee-shit :shock: Cant wait for the vids to hear that monster :twisted:

[TopGearNL]

400HP!! :D

I want vids!!! :twisted:

[MartijnGizmo]

You should make some before/after-videos of the speedo etc. :D

[gis]

^^^ oh yes,thats a great idea.make some vids now or your speedo 0-60,0-100,flyby and a launch and then do same afterwards.that be really interesting to see :D

im lookin forward to hearing that wastegate......oh boy :twisted:

[sameerrao]

Congrats!

[Wutputt]

Nice set of new parts. Santa Claus is coming early this year at Dingo's place :D
The pipe in the middle, is that a new downpipe or a replacement for your pre-cat?

btw, 400 bhp :shock: your scooby will be fast!

[dingo]

Not sure I'll have time to make all those videos guys, you might just have to do with "after' vids. ;)

Wutputt: Yes thats my new down-pipe which is needed to fit the wastegate (came with my exhaust when I originally bought so I already had it lying around).

[corvette97]

VF34 them huh? thats great!!!

thats great! your car will soon be a monster!!!

rember to get a better brake system, maybe a used STI one???

and get the STI hood scoop, it may help the bigger intercooler!! + your car will look meaner :twisted:

just to let you know, i'll have mine around feb 07 :D, just have to wait and find a 2005 (already have a blue one just trying to convince the guy hehe)

Congrats Dude!!! :D

EDIT: GET some sways ASAP, or atleast the back one :)

[dingo]

Swaybar and brakes are the next things on the list, but I'll probably just make do with DBA rotors (slotted) and new pads.....STi calipers are too expensive atm.

Congrats on your car (for when you get it), look forward to seeing pics! :D

[TopGearNL]

/\/\ Sounds like an expensive list Dingo :P

Congrats from me too corvette97 on the new car!! :D

[corvette97]

thanx dingo and topgearNL! :D

its dificult to find an adult owned WRX around here, all the others are trashed :?, so i have 2 on the list. One already has a price, the other one still waiting for an answer

will hopefully post pics the same day i get it :D

Dingo: how good are wrx brakes? when i test drove one i felt they where strong... couldnt really tell, it was just a 10 km drive haha .

[dingo]

Dingo: how good are wrx brakes? when i test drove one i felt they where strong... couldnt really tell, it was just a 10 km drive haha .

The brakes are great, for daily road driving there really is no need to change anything. The only problem is on trackdays where they will begin to fade and maybe could do with a little more performance.

First step is to put better pads in (Ferodo DS2500's for me) and you will notice an improvement already. After that some bigger slotted rotors (DBA4000 or 5000), new fluid and maybe braided lines will suffice....you really don't need much more.

I will see how the stock ones hold up with the new power at my next trackday, then make a decision from there. :D

[corvette97]

any updates on the 400hp monster??

a friend already bought MY future WRX :D, he will use it till feb 07 im happy :D the only thing i dont like is that is silver :?

[dingo]

A few complications..... :cry:

Pulled 282hp ATW (about 405hp at the flywheel) and 360Nm ATW (~500Nm) but some probs with the gate not opening properly in 2nd gear and boost cut issues.

Took it to the drags anyway for a quick run and managed a 13.3sec pass with slipping clutch aswell....should get high 12's with probs sorted.

At the workshop again today to weld internal gate and then more dyno tuning tonight, so hopefully tomorrow it'll be all up and running.

Pulls hard though when boost comes on! :shock:

[spanky]

Pulls hard though when boost comes on!


I bet it does.... Has all the mods changed when the boost comes in?

[gis]

cant wait to see it mate. :D

[TopGearNL]

A few complications..... :cry:

Pulled 282hp ATW (about 405hp at the flywheel) and 360Nm ATW (~500Nm) but some probs with the gate not opening properly in 2nd gear and boost cut issues.

Took it to the drags anyway for a quick run and managed a 13.3sec pass with slipping clutch aswell....should get high 12's with probs sorted.

At the workshop again today to weld internal gate and then more dyno tuning tonight, so hopefully tomorrow it'll be all up and running.

Pulls hard though when boost comes on! :shock:

hope all the complications are solved Dingo :x :D !

[dingo]

Nope, tuning held off another day......hopefully tomorrow night now......aiming for 300hp ATW.

Should hear the ext. gate through a tunnel!!!!!!!!!! :shock: :drool:

[TT]

And I bet if they could calculate the HP at the pistons they would do (I suppose it would be even bigger)...

Dingo, I hope you'll sort the probs out quickly and go out and enjoy the new Rex of yours :D

[dingo]

Just spoke to my mechanic/tuner - the gate problem has been fixed and it now feels much stronger and holds boost better (1.4bar/20.5psi) before....dyno results should be interesting. :D

..Might sound a bit stupid, but what kinda hp is usually shown on the car spec sheets, at the wheels or the flywheel?

As brembo said car manufacturers quote at the flywheel as its a higher figure.

Thats why I mentioned my flywheel figures as otherwise alot of people would look at my post and think "282hp....is that all?" and not realise that is at all 4 wheels. ;)

[gis]

ah good news that its sorted.bet your gonna find it hard to sleep tonite before picking her up tomorrow,lol and making some videos obviously,lol :wink: :P

[TopGearNL]

Take if for a blast Dingo when your baby is ready for it!

And you too :mrgreen:

[Rex]

400+hp here I come..... :twisted:

Note: 550cc injectors missing from this photo.

http://www.ozcarsightings.com/temp/mods.jpg

Dingo, what turbo is that?

[dingo]

IHI VF34.

Update: still waiting for final tune, currently have car but driving around with a 3000rpm limiter which is boring as bat shit. :( Fingers crossed for tomorrow now, though I won't hold my breath.

[Stoopie]

^ What, you're really taking it over 3000rpm? You daredevil! :P Hope the final tune will be worth the money for you :D

[gis]

ahhhh you have the power just not bein able use it,lol thats a bit frustrating isnt it? lol :wink: :P

hopefulyl some good news will come for you tomorrow and then unleash the power :D

[dingo]

Its extremely frustrating, especially when you have some riced up Civic/Excel next to you being a tosser and you wanna show them who is boss.... :P

[gis]

wouldnt surprise me if you were still faster with a limiter at 3000rpm,lol :P :wink:

[Rex]

IHI VF34.

Update: still waiting for final tune, currently have car but driving around with a 3000rpm limiter which is boring as bat shit. :( Fingers crossed for tomorrow now, though I won't hold my breath.

Nice ... I bet you'll enjoy the new power but I think ... soon you will need more power ... :wink:

[TopGearNL]

Its extremely frustrating, especially when you have some riced up Civic/Excel next to you being a tosser and you wanna show them who is boss.... :P

LOL!

Show them Dingo whoes boss! :D

[dingo]

Yay, car is done!!! Finally!

No improvements in peak power/torque figures but better mid-range and doesn't die off as quickly top-end.

External gate opens a bit in 1st and then fully in 2nd onwards, sounds insane. :D

Hopefully get some vids tomorrow.

[cooperluke]

Must be a nice monster, would love to own some 4wd beast like that! :D

[TT]

YAY! Didn't take that long afterward!

Be safe with it, and can't wait to see the next mods :P

[gis]

cant wait for the vids mate,glad its all done :D

[MartijnGizmo]

Vids! Vids! Vids! :P

[Rex]

IHI VF34.

Update: still waiting for final tune, currently have car but driving around with a 3000rpm limiter which is boring as bat shit. :( Fingers crossed for tomorrow now, though I won't hold my breath.

Nice ... I bet you'll enjoy the new power but I think ... soon you will need more power ... :wink:


Yes I am 100% sure he will soon look at ways to get more its like an disease or an drug you need more to get your fix.....been there done that....hmm maybe I`m still there in fact.... :oops:

It almost happens to everyone who loves to modify their car ... including me :oops: :? :lol: ... Let see after he gets use to the new found power ... maybe ... in 2 weeks time .. start to plan on .. let say .. 18G ... next step maybe FP Green ... then jump to GT35R .. :twisted:

[dingo]

A couple of quick vids I made last night/today, nothing special as I don't have much time but gives you some idea. Sound of the gate is more brutal in person than the vid portrays....

Driveby: http://www.ozcarsightings.com/temp/gate1.wmv (sorry for long delay in the middle, I don't edit vids well)

In-car tunnel: http://www.ozcarsightings.com/temp/gate2.wmv

Will make more next week probably as I'm off work.

[gis]

thats sounding mighty good mate,so are you happy with it?....for now,lol

[MartijnGizmo]

Ok, so now we've heared the sound. Now I wanna see awd-donuts, drift, trafficlight-kills, etc. :P

j/k sounds great dingo!

[cooperluke]

Great sound, but, are you going to floor it to redline on the next vid? :D

[ashsimmonds]

did you upgrade to a VW engine? :p

[ARMAN]

Drive safe Dingo, sounds badass :twisted:

[Wutputt]

Nice new sound, Dingo. How much traffic light sprints did you win thanks to these mods? :P

[komotar]

mean sound 8)

thx for the vids...keep'em coming 8)

[dingo]

Exciting development today....got launch control installed on my car (all software, no hardware).

Basically I can hold the throttle flat to the floor but revs are limited to 5500rpm and 0.5bar of boost is built up while standing still! Did a few trial launches tonight and went alright....

More trials tomorrow when my tuner comes over and we'll do some tweaks.....will try to get video. :D

Nice new sound, Dingo. How much traffic light sprints did you win thanks to these mods? :P

I dont street race anymore.....got caught at 170kmh on the freeway (100 speed limit) recently so I have to behave myself now. :D

[tuffguy]

Exciting development today....got launch control installed on my car (all software, no hardware).

Basically I can hold the throttle flat to the floor but revs are limited to 5500rpm and 0.5bar of boost is built up while standing still! Did a few trial launches tonight and went alright....
Launch control rocks. I have mine set to 6000rpm and 10psi. :D

Gotta take it to the track one of these days...

[tuffguy]

Driveby: http://www.ozcarsightings.com/temp/gate1.wmv (sorry for long delay in the middle, I don't edit vids well)

In-car tunnel: http://www.ozcarsightings.com/temp/gate2.wmv

Will make more next week probably as I'm off work.
Are you fully boosting in the first one? The sound is... different than what I'm used to from WRXs/STis. It sounds hollower than usual.

[TopGearNL]

Sounds great Dingo!!

Love what your doing to it!

[dingo]

^^I didn't know u could get mods like that. You should get something to divert more power to the rear. :)

Verso Automotive - its a new company here (started by a friend) and they have developed these things to run off the stock ECU. Anti-lag and ECU controlled IC waterspray is next.

Driveby: http://www.ozcarsightings.com/temp/gate1.wmv (sorry for long delay in the middle, I don't edit vids well)

In-car tunnel: http://www.ozcarsightings.com/temp/gate2.wmv

Will make more next week probably as I'm off work.
Are you fully boosting in the first one? The sound is... different than what I'm used to from WRXs/STis. It sounds hollower than usual.

No not full throttle, and remember the when the gate opens you lose some of that boxer rumble sound.

[corvette97]

dingo are you on NASIOC?

you car is famous!!

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=296267&page=95

[tuffguy]

^^I didn't know u could get mods like that. You should get something to divert more power to the rear. :)

Verso Automotive - its a new company here (started by a friend) and they have developed these things to run off the stock ECU. Anti-lag and ECU controlled IC waterspray is next.

Driveby: http://www.ozcarsightings.com/temp/gate1.wmv (sorry for long delay in the middle, I don't edit vids well)

In-car tunnel: http://www.ozcarsightings.com/temp/gate2.wmv

Will make more next week probably as I'm off work.
Are you fully boosting in the first one? The sound is... different than what I'm used to from WRXs/STis. It sounds hollower than usual.

No not full throttle, and remember the when the gate opens you lose some of that boxer rumble sound.
That sound at 5 seconds into the 1st vid still sounds strange to me... very different than what I'm used to.

I can't tell from the pic, but is that a Type S BOV or a Tial wastegate? If it's a wastegate, how are you liking it?

[dingo]

dingo are you on NASIOC?

you car is famous!!

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=296267&page=95

Haha, cool!

"Nicest red 04-05 I've seen" Thats nice. :D


That sound at 5 seconds into the 1st vid still sounds strange to me... very different than what I'm used to.

I can't tell from the pic, but is that a Type S BOV or a Tial wastegate? If it's a wastegate, how are you liking it?

5 secs in....thats the wastegate screaming. Trust me, in person it sounds like most other modded WRX's - very tough from the outside IMO. Had a mate drive it past me a few times last night and I liked what I heard. :D

Its a wastegate and I'm loving it at the moment! The sound is insane in person, especially in enclosed areas (tunnels or the city). I love "gating" cyclists or motorists with the window down....they shit themselves. :twisted:

[tuffguy]

Its a wastegate and I'm loving it at the moment! The sound is insane in person, especially in enclosed areas (tunnels or the city). I love "gating" cyclists or motorists with the window down....they shit themselves. :twisted:
I'm jealous.

I'll bet that it doesn't sound as intimidating as this:

Duck BOV on a wrx hilarious - YouTube

:twisted:

[Stoopie]

Wawawiewa :D

[TopGearNL]

Its a wastegate and I'm loving it at the moment! The sound is insane in person, especially in enclosed areas (tunnels or the city). I love "gating" cyclists or motorists with the window down....they shit themselves.

That puts such a big smile on my face :D

[corvette97]

now on looks, it only needs the STI hood scoop and some HID kit :twisted:

[dingo]

Your thoughts please.....

Got bored tonight so I took the rear spoiler off to see how the spoiler-less/wingless look goes....I'm still undecided.

Will leave it for a day or two then make a decision, easy enough to put back on. :D

http://www.ozcarsightings.com/wingless1.jpg

http://www.ozcarsightings.com/wingless2.jpg

http://www.ozcarsightings.com/wingless3.jpg

[TT]

Always liked the wingless look. Either this or another wing, possible not overdone, but the simple WRX one isn't really my fav option, so :good:

[Stoopie]

I think it looks really cool without, it seems like a more 'normal' car, other than the 'racy' car it looks like with the wing on it. And because of the huge power in it, it's just cool to let it look so normal IMO :D Let someone challenge you in front of the traffic lights, I promise you'll have a great laugh ;)

*edit: Or like TT said, put some other wing on it, I'd say a real big one, like the Evo has :D

*edit 2: I've found a pic of it, the WRX version:

http://www.scoobytuner.com/Images/Subaru%20WRX%20STi%202004%20-%20Rear%20Wing.jpg

[dingo]

Well I was already "challenged" on the way home from my mates place where I took it off.....some guys pulled up next to me (some crappy car) and started gesturing at me. I dropped it back to 3rd and left them behind, couldn't help it.

Not sure I want an STi wing on it, I am on the lookout for an S203 one though.

[Stoopie]

^ The S203 wing looks pretty cool too, but my choice would be the STi wing. Cool you left those guys behind, sure it'd be fun doing :D

*edit: Do you listen 'Snap - I've got the power' whilst driving? ;)

*edit 2: How about this wing?

http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news_reports/images/subaru-wrx-06-4.JPG

Cool! :D

[ashsimmonds]

it's an improvement. kinda like shaving the mo off your sister before taking her to prom. :P

[sameerrao]

It looks more stealthy w/o the wing assuming a red car can be called stealthy :)

[tuffguy]

I prefer the spoiler-less look or the spoiler from the STi Limited. But then again, I'm a little biased:

http://www.technogeeky.com/cars/Evo_ix_se/Album/large/0008.jpg

[ViperASR]

I actually like it without the wing, but if it was my car, I would leave the wing on.

[gis]

surprisingly it looks pretty dam good,ive seen 2 imprezas here with no wings,a white one and a blue one,they didnt look good,but i think the colour of your car makes the wingless look good.

but if you have to get another spoiler,please get the S204 one.....please :D

[TopGearNL]

surprisingly it looks pretty dam good,ive seen 2 imprezas here with no wings,a white one and a blue one,they didnt look good,but i think the colour of your car makes the wingless look good.

but if you have to get another spoiler,please get the S204 one.....please :D

I absolutely agree, normally I don't like the impreza without a wing but it suits it well in that colour :D

But on the end of the day its your car Dingo, you do what you like! :wink:

But I have to say the S204 looks so much cooler than the STI version!

[stradale]

IMO it looks better without the wing. Yet, with the colour and mods you have done a wing really suits the car. I like the Sti and S204 wings a lot better than the S203.

[corvette97]

although my first option to get a wing would be a cheap ass STi replica...

i like this look...

WRX wing with Roof vane found in the 06 STi

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/7968/handsdownstation1rk1rk9.th.jpg (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=handsdownstation1rk1rk9.jpg)

This STi look a like wing, with an adjustable top... brand i dont know

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8978/symmsdone4224mq1.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=symmsdone4224mq1.jpg)

OR STi Wing with Vortex Generators...

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1774/728348158fullmh1.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=728348158fullmh1.jpg)

[RC45]

The car has been modded - why bother being stealthy? You paid for it - enjoy it - stick the farging wing on and go kick some exotic arse.. :P

[MartijnGizmo]

My vote goes for the S204-wing, looks very nice!