Should GM?

[blah]

Should GM allow one of its other subsideraries to make a car as powerful, or more powerful than the mighty Corvette? If so who should do it?

I think Pontiac should have made the new GTO more powerful, it runs what 14.1 stock right now? If any company in GM makes a corvette killer it should be Pontiac, they dont get shit. Their best car was killed off cuz of the damn camaro, and now the GTO has been pussified.

[possessed_beaver]

yeh they should, then they mite stand a chance against europian cars

[novass]

i agree they should make more fast cars, can never have enough of em LOL

[666fast]

Of course they should. Originally the GTO was supposed ot have more power than the Corvette.

[blah]

Yea it was, but now its a Luxury Coupe more than the Muscle Car it should be. Im so upset that it runs a 14.1 stock. It doesnt deserve the GTO badge name, just name it Wanna be and lets move on. I hope that the bring back the Chevelle and actually give The Corvette Design team something to do.

[AlienDB7]

Definitely a Yes! Wonder why GM didn't use the Holden HSV for the GTO instead. They could put a tuned LS6 to make it the perfect muscle car. With the new engines co-developed with Fiat, I think GM should be able to put out some "modern" high performance cars in the near future.

[possessed_beaver]

yeh thet GTO is a POS, basicley it's a 2 door verion of the HSV
all of thoes cars use the same LS1 V8 engine
they are very luxurious thoe.
but most of them are automatic (aparantley) because thats what most customers want,
and aparantley it's the same auto used on the V6 engines, and aint a very good gearbox..

[heath]

wheres the "I don't care" option?? The americans need to make a decent car first...then improve on it.

my 2c anyway...

[sportVeloce]

Im seriously considering holding a POLL to not hold anymore POLLs for at least a Month. Jeeze im sick of these useless POLLs.

Anyway, the HSV GTS is a nice car. Im in agreement with the post of disbelief by alienDb7 about Pontiac not using it for the GTO. Everyone knows its an HSV so why didnt they make it a decent HSV? I think the Commodores would do well in the US market. They are large and Yank tank like, kind of like the Lincons, caprices etc.

[stracing]

and get ford to bring on the falcon eh?

i wish they can move that battle away from me. i'm so sick of reading a commodore vs falcon over and over.

[sportVeloce]

I noted the HSV because the Pontiac GTO is basically an HSV. Ship a few XR8's and im sure they would do well. I just think the Yanks would like the Aussie cars, like the Holdens and Fords (family sedans). Bloody Magna and Camry I hope they all get exported. Btw they are already in the USA. I saw them recently in LA.

[possessed_beaver]

http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news_reports/images/xr6t9.JPG
XR6 turbo
http://www.discountnewcars.com.au/carimages/ford_falcon_xr6_turbo_ba.jpg

turbo 6, with lots of displacment, and ALOT of potentiol!!!!!
closest thing to a aussie built skyline

[stracing]

i'm surprised by the efficiency of the xr6 turbo. only about 15% power loss from flywheel to wheel

[possessed_beaver]

i'm surprised by the efficiency of the xr6 turbo. only about 15% power loss from flywheel to wheel
acording to the people in fords marketing office :P

http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/articles/featurepics/1833.jpg

220kw @ 6psi.. what would happen if i put the boost up :twisted:

Data
WARRANTY: Three years/100,000km

ENGINE: Type: 5.408-litre SOHC 24-valve V8, cast-iron block/alloy head
Induction: variable inlet and exhaust camshaft timing
Location: front-mounted, longitudinal
Bore/stroke: 90.2mm/105.8mm
Power: 220kW @ 4750rpm
Torque: 470Nm @ 5250rpm
Compression ratio: 9.7:1

TRANSMISSION: Adaptive four-speed semi-automatic only

SUSPENSION: Front: independent by double wishbones, coil springs, anti-roll bar
Rear: independent by multi-links, coil springs, anti-roll bar

STEERING: Power-assisted rack and pinion
Turning circle: 11.0 metres
Turns lock to lock: 2.8

DIMENSIONS: Length: 4916mm
Width: 1864mm
Height: 1444mm
Wheelbase: 2829mm
Track front: 1553mm
Track rear: 1571mm
Kerb weight: 1786kg
Fuel capacity: 68 litres

STANDARD EQUIPMENT: Anti-lock Braking System
Electronic Brake force Distribution
Traction control
Limited-slip differential
Twin front and side airbags
Dual-zone automatic climate control
Remote central locking
Electric mirrors/windows
Cruise control
Six-CD Premium sound system
Trip computer
Leather upholstery
Leather steering wheel and gear knob
17-inch alloy wheels
on-glass antenna
Multifunction steering wheel
60/40 split-folding rear seat
Four-speed automatic transmission with sequential manual control
Independent rear suspension
Dual horns
Colour TFT display screen
DVD satellite navigation
Power adjustable pedals
Six-way memory power driver's seat
Reverse parking system
Automatic headlights
Driving lights
Illuminated vanity mirrors
Front door/footwell lights
Woodgrain inserts
Full chrome/grey mesh grille

[stracing]

i'm surprised by the efficiency of the xr6 turbo. only about 15% power loss from flywheel to wheel
acording to the people in fords marketing office :P

hahaha yea a ford engineer told me
nah it was from a dyno sheet i saw from an owner.

[Billyjuan]

Well i think GM should make faster cars to compete against European cars lol. Had to say it because I am from California and i am piss off because we get crapy and downgraded cars from japan or Europe here which blows.