Cheapest car to break 12s for 1/4 mile barrier.

[sau_mathur]

I would like some reasoning and good sources debate. Im choosing 12s because in my opinion, it is a decent, fast and respectable time in the 1/4 mile. I would like to know the cheapest possible car & setup YOU think can hit 12s. Car can be street legal/illegal. The price includes the cost of the car and the mods (if any). Decent looking beast too..hehe!! And give ur reason too!!

I dont own a car yet (sniff sniff) but saving up for one..!! hehe

Let the debate begin!!!!

[Mopsdrops]

Tune a little Corsa or something ?
the cheapest I could think is a Ford GT: it costs about 100.000 pounds, = €150.000 = 150.000$ if i'm right...

[BADMIHAI]

Well... That would be a DSM Talon. A boost controller, 3" exhaust, maybe increase the boost, and there you are.

[leinad111]

I say a VL Turbo. Then get it modified by Nizpro and it will run 11s. :)

A VL Turbo is a 1986 Holden Commodore with a turbocharged RB30 just incase you didn't know.

http://www.nizpro.com.au/images/vl5.jpg

[twboy1999]

honda civic

dodge neon srt(really easy to get to 12's)

[chaos]

Tune a little Corsa or something ?


funny u shud say that.

guy i know has a nova which recently took the uk fwd quarter mile record.
11.3s i believe it is.

under £3k odd in total i think, will ask him.

[Kangaroo Boy]

VL Commodore..Pick it up Calais for 7 grand,10 more grand gets you 350bhp Monster doing high 12s,With Rb30et unless you swap the engine over to another Nissan engine...But sadly its a car that is only in Australia and New Zealand.....Alot Cheaper than a Civic.....

[Tumbler]

import a tunned r32 gtr for like 16 grand

will do 12s all day every day

vl's may do 12 but handle like shit

[Kangaroo Boy]

WRONG...R32 GTR is like 45 grand...And we talking a straight line..Not corners..

[DMbaseball1604]

well if you are talking about the cheapest thing...get a supercharged corvette..that ill prob do it..but it is the cheapest one for a reason, its not quality built and its a chevy...but its a pretty good value I suppose

[RC45]

Why modify? The Z06 is a 12s car out of the box... as will a F550 and a 996TT...

I love these types of topics... they are utter bullshit... all benchracer talk...

Let's SEE some PROOF of these "Only takes $300 and a can of oil to go 11s" cars.

If all it takes is a DSM and $250 in Wal-Mart money to run 11s - how come these 11 and 12s cars are not lined up 6 deep at the drag strip every night?

And when the quesiton is "cheapest" - does that mean cheapest TOTAL price for car and mods, or just mods - or just car? And private party cost? Or dealer "in house" cost?

Parts and labour add up real quick - and often times the REAL cost of the cars that tuning shops produce for bragging rights have 10's of thousands of dollars of work done on them - but they will only quote 3 major components as "needed to run at this speed"....

LOL - :lol: - really funny topic.

[MercedeSChink]

you can definitely take a civic and add a t3 or t4 turbo on to it, exhaust, intercooler, then strip everything out to barebone, nitrous will cost you like 1 g, i think that will sum up to around 10 to 15 gs...

[tuffguy]

If all it takes is a DSM and $250 in Wal-Mart money to run 11s - how come these 11 and 12s cars are not lined up 6 deep at the drag strip every night?

because there weren't a lot of turbo models sold, and not everybody who bought them modified them. i don't know how accurate the figure actually is, but i've heard that only ~10% of the ones sold were the turbo models. and not all of them were modded. the new non-turbo V6 models are selling WAY better than the old turbo models.

1st gen upgrade path - http://www.roadraceengineering.com/1gupgradepath.htm

2nd gen upgrade path - http://www.roadraceengineering.com/2gupgradepath.htm

[RC45]

you can definitely take a civic and add a t3 or t4 turbo on to it, exhaust, intercooler, then strip everything out to barebone, nitrous will cost you like 1 g, i think that will sum up to around 10 to 15 gs...

Fine - so other that in 2F2F - where exactly are all these cars?

People WAY UNDER estimate the REAL TOTAL cost of modifying cars to this extent.... way under estimate....

[coloradosilver]

I'm with RC, Modifying can get REALLY expensive. With the money that you sink into a beater car to get it to run low times, you can just buy something like a Z06 that will run those same times stock all day long, and you'll still have the street legal and reliability factors well in check.

My car runs 11's, but it wasn't cheap to get it there.

[Tomerville]

Well... That would be a DSM Talon. A boost controller, 3" exhaust, maybe increase the boost, and there you are.


I doubt that will fill the bill, 4G63s aren't that quick for that little modifications.

Since you live in Australia, why not go for a Holden Commodore?

[5vz-fe]

I know u are not looking at a car that will just do a straight line but just for the record, I think TopGear did the test. And old Jaguar + NOS will beat the Porsche Turbo. and the turbo is a 12 second car.

[RC45]

I know u are not looking at a car that will just do a straight line but just for the record, I think TopGear did the test. And old Jaguar + NOS will beat the Porsche Turbo. and the turbo is a 12 second car.

...and it about died by the end of the day...

[blah]

A Mustang 5.0 is the cheapest in the states. you can pick one up for about 1500-2500 bucks, gears and intake eqaul hgih 13s low 14s, a few internals and you got 12s. now if u really wanna go fast turbo out a Mustang GT or a F-Body LT1, american cars respond extremely well to turbos.

[hemi_fan]

a 5.0 mustang can be picked up for about $4000 canadian in nice shape. Throw on some 4.10 gears, Drag Radials (still street legal), and put $7-10gs into the engine (Heads, Cam, Intake, Internals, Supercharger, maybe NOS), and you will be able to run 12s very easily. Plus parts for them are readily available for them so you can usually pick them up cheap.

[JiggaStyles09]

a 5.0 mustang can be picked up for about $4000 canadian in nice shape. Throw on some 4.10 gears, Drag Radials (still street legal), and put $7-10gs into the engine (Heads, Cam, Intake, Internals, Supercharger, maybe NOS), and you will be able to run 12s very easily. Plus parts for them are readily available for them so you can usually pick them up cheap.


i pretty much agree with that, thats the way i would go.

[skituner]

i would for a porsche 944 or 968
but i hear that they are hard to tune

[initiala4]

DSM Car will do 12s easily with a few mods

[graywolf624]

Many cars will: third gen camaros, mustangs, ect.

The most rediculous thing I have ever seen?.. a sub 10 second pinto that cost 9000 dollars. It ate engines every few runs.. but still.

"dodge neon srt(really easy to get to 12's)"

An srt is not what I would consider a cheap way to do 12s.

Break down of some options.
stock late 80s camaro 350 l98- cost 1500 dollars
stock quarter 14.6 sec

parts options:
ls1 engine and t56 transmission- instant 12s.. cost 4000+ instalation.

turbo + modified internals- cost 2500- 12s

bore and stroke the engine.. 12secs yet again.. 383.. price will vary but prolly the cheapest.

A lt1 camaro firebird or 90s mustang gt is fast, but honestly you can do better per cash with a 80s version of either.

I would also suggest an old 240z.

I would not suggest any fwd car. To get 12s your generally looking at more..
Why?

Well frankly there are a million of those cars out there i suggested, they have the largest aftermarket community of any other cars on the market, they are fairly fast and reliable stock, they dont have the fundamental flaws of alot of these fwd cars.

[sau_mathur]

And when the quesiton is "cheapest" - does that mean cheapest TOTAL price for car and mods, or just mods - or just car? And private party cost? Or dealer "in house" cost?


The overall cost is what I am after.
And yeah..the Holden Commodore is pretty good, but i cant stand it! Everyone, their dog, and their dogs pups owns one of those.

[novass]

Well im not sure what pollution regulations, if any, you have there. Here, if the car was made pre-1974 (i think its up to 74 now but im not sure) you dont have to worry about smog and shit like that. My answer would be any classic American muscle car that came with a V8. Its very easy and cheap (at least here anyway) to make those cars run 12s and lower.

[Tumbler]

WRONG...R32 GTR is like 45 grand...And we talking a straight line..Not corners..


dont call me wrong u bogan. u can import r32 gtr's from japan using the 15 year rule and get them on the road for less than 16k and they will chop any wogadore in a straight line and the corners

[Tumbler]

and if u want to do 12's the cheapest way is to get a old rx3/808 or rx7 or r100 and chuck in a 13b turbo from a series 4/5 rx7, with microtech a front mount and a bigger turbo you will do 12's for under 10 grand total

[rob_e1]

Nobody has suggested a caterham..?? Stock R500 is 11.9 according to this site:
http://www.syclone.freeserve.co.uk/rivals_cars.htm

Whilst an R500 is expensive (new) you can buy a used caterham in the uk from about £7k.. lots of engine and tuning options :P

[nthfinity]

i love 5.0 stangs :)
here's one of my favorite sites i bookmarked long ago...
http://members.tripod.com/~juan_espero/engine.html
high tech=high dollar :wink:

[Bloodline_Rex]

the cheapest is take awd turbo dsm or subaru alittle bolt on action and you got 12's spending a little for the body and a DD 12 sec car

[DanielW]

A Mustang 5.0 is the cheapest in the states. you can pick one up for about 1500-2500 bucks, gears and intake eqaul hgih 13s low 14s, a few internals and you got 12s. now if u really wanna go fast turbo out a Mustang GT or a F-Body LT1, american cars respond extremely well to turbos.
turbos are expensive. the aftermarket is not very big and all the piping required and tunning of the car will cost a lot of money. go with a mustang 5.0 and slap on a supercharger on it. or do the same with an f-body.

[Bloodline_Rex]

are you crazy the aftermarket isnt big. do research on the aftermarket of import cars and how it has grown quickly and yes soon it will be just as big a the american aftermarket. dont get me wrong i love american cars and thats what i first started working on as a kid. but all you have to do is port and clip the stock turbo put a front mount other minor mods and your there and you dont have to worry about a belt coming off your supercharger. both turbos and superchargers are expensive it all depens on how fast you want to go. I will take a turbo over a supercharger anyday

[DanielW]

please re read my post :roll:

i was referring to turboing a 5.0 or an f-body not turboing a civic or something. and yes when it comes to domestics as far as money is concerned supercharging is cheaper. i know for the vette a SC will cost you 5-6k and you can bolt it on yourself. while a turbo setup for the C5 will cost you around 12-15k.