Bugatti Veyron - not coming till late 2005

[Toronto]

well it ain't going to be out till late 2005 (says "car" may 2004) this time the interior is not up to the VW standards, i don't think this car will ever come out and if it does the hp will be down around 800-750, just cause they first said 1000, now 900, i think then it is going to be much lower VW should just scrap the car, it is was ugly from the start in my books, just let it die.

[Sir_GT]

Well, I would have to disagree with you about the looks (I'm always for companies/brands that try to establish their own thing), but I'm a little annoyed with the "just air, still nowhere" status of the car.

VW should just shut up until its actually out.

[FerrariFerrari]

That's it! :x God fuck the Veyron and its design groupe!!! :x That's
all I have to say.

[bobafett]

VW cut back their power because they changed their top speed claims from 400 km/h to 350. The car is hugely unstable at speed and as a result they decided to reduce power to a "safer" amount. Apparently the car is suffering huge mechanical problems.

Like I said before. Up to VW spec? Give me a break... they can't find someone to sew suede??

This car is vaporware. Or better yet, vapor-where! :D

--Dan

[FerrariFerrari]

The car is hugely unstable at speed and as a result they decided to reduce power to a "safer" amount. Apparently the car is suffering huge mechanical problems.How did VW blow it so badly? This has to do something
to their image. Not to many companies have made claimes
so high and delivered so little as this.

[bobafett]

Uh...Koenigsegg? They never delivered. Although a friend of mine went out there, drove the cars, checked em out, etc. etc. and is absolutely in love with the engineering of it. He said the door mechanism alone is mechanical genius.

I don't think this will do much of anything to VWs image - they may not be able to revive the Bugatti brand as well as they had hoped (racing??), but that's about it.

--Dan

[nthfinity]

How did VW blow it so badly? This has to do something
to their image. Not to many companies have made claimes
so high and delivered so little as this.

well, they didnt do it like a macca to begin with. there are cirtainly ways to aerodynamically help a car improve stability at speed... but 400kph is a rediuclous speed that is supposed to be restrained to tuners, and salt flat rockets. i think the initial problem is that it is far from 'form follows function' it was designed, sure, its designed with funtional inlets, but lets see some funtional cross sections, and air channeling to improve stability....

i disagree to the 850 mark...... if they dont come within 50hp of their original goals, or, at least, thier claim of 14.7 seconds to 180mph... who would want it when there truly so many options!

[MB300E87]

i think they should have scrapped the damn thing and cut their losses a long time ago. kind of like that supercar they had going for a little while with the VW badge on it but then it promptly disapeared.

i wish buggatti would make sedans. they're probably look really good.

there were pics of some modern buggatti sedan concepts.. anyone have those?

[twboy1999]

i think they konisegg ccr would kill it
so much lighter and 800hp+

veryon just 1 fugly heavy car

[HeilSvenska]

Damn Germans and safety and quality!

[Max Power]

haha
...right, Fuck all this safety crap, just strap 1000bhp to the back of a chair put some wheels on it....what else is there?

[Drogear]

This damn car has been nothing but troubble since it was developed. Every few months it seems that it runs into new problems! I agree that the car should be scrapped because part of the whole draw of the car was the 1000hp. Now that it has alot less, it is not so spectacular anymore. I did see one as Pebble Beach last year and it is a very sexy looking car but I still think that the project should be killed!

[bobafett]

Damn Germans and safety and quality!

You mean damn VW for *not* being able to engineer something safely and having no Q.C. ...

--Dan

[PATo355]

Man if they promise us to develop a 1001 HP car and make so buzz about it for like 3 years , everything with less than 1000hp would be a shame , btw the whole development shit was because of the 1000hp , that car was not born to revive the Bugatti brand , or to make a beatutifull car , it was made to be by far the most powerfull car in the roads , and 1001hp seems like its up to

[schnell318]

I don´t give a fuck about that car anymore... it was supossed to be the greatest ever :?

[FerrariFerrari]

Just look at what happend to the XJ220 and you will see that
the supercar market doesn't take it kindly when manufacturers
deliver less than their original claims. And with the XJ220 they
at least came extreamly close to their original claims(IMO they
may have actually beaten their original claims), with the Veyron
there not even going to be in the same market.

[racer_f50]

Uh...Koenigsegg? They never delivered. Although a friend of mine went out there, drove the cars, checked em out, etc. etc. and is absolutely in love with the engineering of it. He said the door mechanism alone is mechanical genius.


Koenigseggs might not be reliable and all that, but according to some chick that was a guest on Top Gear, someone got a Koenigsegg up to 242mph during a cannonball/gumball run (i don't recall which). so i'd say its lived up to its specs if that holds true.

*okay, just did a search about a Gumball. and the guy really did hit 240mph.
here's a quote from teh site

While that caused a fair amount of laughter, the car's owner shut everyone up when he overtook a huge convoy at 240mph in Texas. It was so fast his speedo blew up.

http://www.maxpower.co.uk/cruises/cruises_patrol_template.asp?idArticle=2481

[skituner]

ahaha that Koenigsegg story is great
26,000 for a gas cap
then going 240
damnnn i love that car

[FerrariFerrari]

It was so fast his speedo blew up.
Is that really true? :? I have heard it said several times
with seriousness, but I just can't delieve it. :lol:

[bobafett]

I have an indirect connection to the gentleman (he owns China Whites, where a friend of mine is a regular VIP), so I will ask through the grapevine and try to get the real deal about this speedo blowing nonsense.

--Dan

[possessed_beaver]

LEMON!!!

btw i have seen the gumball movie, the owner of the konisegg seems like a bit of a wanker.. the kind of guy that would make things up, and the konisigg broke down a few times, lol

[DMbaseball1604]

I never liked the looks of that car from the begining...they just need to scrap it or get it out into production within the next 6 months

[PATo355]

I have an indirect connection to the gentleman (he owns China Whites, where a friend of mine is a regular VIP), so I will ask through the grapevine and try to get the real deal about this speedo blowing nonsense.

--Dan

What is China Whites ? some kind of club ?

[bobafett]

Famous club in London.

--Dan

[novass]

I have an indirect connection to the gentleman (he owns China Whites, where a friend of mine is a regular VIP), so I will ask through the grapevine and try to get the real deal about this speedo blowing nonsense.

--Dan

Was that the guy in the new gumball video driving a Murci? I saw a few China White stickers on his car, I assumed it meant something other then heroin LOL

[RC45]

I am guessing that Bugatti (VW) is using the same PR company as Sony and Polyphony for GT4... just "announce but never release" seems to be their way of doing things.... :P

[bobafett]

Novass: I don't know. Maybe he brought a second car? I know a few people brought two cars (one for gf / friend / etc).

--Dan

[veilsidebr]

this car is too heavy and even with 1000 hp engine, the acceleration and top speed would be downcreased, and i read on a magazine that the gearbox and engine are passing for a reliability trouble, and the car is making up to 340 of top speed...not so expected as it´s 400 up limit....