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Old 04-01-2008, 10:10 AM   #31
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Even Motortrend thinks the Z06 is slow these days

http://blogs.motortrend.com/6238202/...low/index.html
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:02 AM   #32
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Originally Posted by gobs3z View Post
Even Motortrend thinks the Z06 is slow these days

http://blogs.motortrend.com/6238202/...low/index.html
April Fools!!

Just read it! Hahahahahahahahha! LOL
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:59 AM   #33
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Until someone pulsl the GT-R motor out and puts in on an engine dyno, the %age drivetrain loss is simply a guess by all parties.

Once this has been done, people will see the drivetrain loss of Nissans AWD system is more than the approx. 12% loss on a DynoJet dyno for the C5/C6 drivetrain.
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Old 04-01-2008, 12:06 PM   #34
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The best write up of a vette I've ever read.
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Old 04-01-2008, 12:09 PM   #35
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Originally Posted by RC45 View Post
Until someone pulsl the GT-R motor out and puts in on an engine dyno, the %age drivetrain loss is simply a guess by all parties.

Once this has been done, people will see the drivetrain loss of Nissans AWD system is more than the approx. 12% loss on a DynoJet dyno for the C5/C6 drivetrain.

I agree that the loss has to be more than 12%...there is no way its under 15%.

I have a hard time believing the GTR produces 530hp. If it were that much, the 997 TT would never be able to keep up. I know Nissan didnt freak up the gearing on the low gears that bad.
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Old 04-01-2008, 07:58 PM   #36
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-100 mph: GTR>Z06 (AWD, short gearing, better tires and seamless shifting from DSG overcompensate for the lesser P.W.R & T.W.R);
Did you look at the graph from motor trend on the previous page. Anything above between 70 and 80 is the z06. Why is it important? Well first because if the vette is ahead by 70 mph, then that means it accelerated faster long before that point to catch up from its 0-60 deficite. Also probably because along with the track articles it proves the koolade is a bit tainted. No one has done a legitamate (read not driven by a nissan driver or a track with a top speed lower then an auto cross course) track comparison.

Once this has been done, people will see the drivetrain loss of Nissans AWD system is more than the approx. 12% loss on a DynoJet dyno for the C5/C6 drivetrain.
No one has argued with you re: greater. What Im pointing out is that the 11 percent of the z06 is 450 rwhp to 505. If the nissan is 430 rwhp, as these tests indicate (oh and tests on a coupled dyno gave at best 450 rwhp as we would expect, which would be road conditions) then 505 engine hp to 430 rwhp would be higher then 11 percent, and actually it would be what we would expect. 15 percent drive train loss is perfectly reasonable. Any more then that that rear better have its own cooling system.
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Old 04-03-2008, 08:16 AM   #37
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MOTOR TREND 2009 Nissan GTR Handling Test: Godzilla turns and stops as eagerly as he charges.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._handling_test



Done with Bridgestone Potenza RE070R RFTs.
Braking: 100-0 mph (feet)

Dodge Viper SRT-10: 274
Mosler MT900 Photon: 275
Porsche Carrera GT: 277
Ferrari F430 F1 (std launch): 278
Dodge Viper SRT-10 Coupe: 280
Porsche GT2: 280
Nissan GT-R: 280


Cornering: Figure-8 time (sec) / At avg g / Skidpad g

Porsche GT2: 22.90 / 0.90 g / 1.10 g
Mosler MT900 Photon: 23.30 / 0.90 / 1.07
Saleen S7 Twin Turbo: 23.41 / 0.90 / 0.99
Porsche Carrera GT: 23.80 / 0.86 / 0.99
Porsche 911 GT3 RS: 23.90 / 0.81 / 1.05
Lamborghini Murcielago LP640: 23.90 / 0.84 / 1.05
Dodge Viper SRT 10: 23.90 / 0.86 / 1.05
Ariel Atom: 24.30 / 0.79 / 1.04
Nissan GT-R : 24.30 / 0.81 / 0.97
Hmm, that's pretty damn good considering its weight.
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Old 04-06-2008, 05:54 PM   #38
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Yes, it performs well and will eat through tires nicely.

Car and Driver, the magazine that tested the GTR running to 60 in 3.3 seconds, also agrees that the car's horsepower rating is probably an underestimate. See the letters to the editor section of this month's issue.

The car's trap speed at the end of the quarter mile says alot about how much work it has physically done and therefore it says a lot about the power as well. Here's a link to one of those ball park figure quarter mile calculators. Such calculators are far from perfect and don't take many variables into account but they do a fairly decent job regardless.

http://www.tunercalcs.com/hp-from-qu...rap-speed.html

The reason the straightline performance of the GTR is ever so fascinating is because it's obvious that the advertised power figure is wrong no matter how much traction magic and "more efficient horsepower distrubution" the computer dishes out.
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Old 04-06-2008, 08:26 PM   #39
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Z06 vs GTR on the streets:

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/first...n-gt-r/734036/
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...post1564834849
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Old 04-06-2008, 10:05 PM   #40
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The first story of the Vette driver is pretty alright, but the second one kinda make me feel like he's a jerk.
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