/\/\ The Canon is more expensive over here in any way then the Nikon.
I have already chosen the camera I am going to buy following all of your comments and reading various reviews. Thanks for all the links which led to most of them
I am going to take the Nikon D50. I already knew that even before I saw this on the net, that the D50 is currently on offer in a local camera store for 469 Euro's including lens!!
See \/\/ !
http://www.fotoklein.nl/pdf/krantweek27.pdf
Everywhere else on the net it isn't cheaper then 500 Euro's for just the body without lens!
So you understand that Ill be hauling my ass tomorrow since the offer isn't for ever, Ill probably will buy it and then save up for a lens that is better (thanks wae86_16v and MartijnGizmo!)
RC, I am a beginner at this I know, and I agree that it depends more on the person then the equipment for the outcome of the pic. But I have a bit of experience with many normal digital camera's and phones.
Update very soon, with a purchase I hope