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fsandys 04-24-2006 08:22 AM

Ferrari to build new 'Dino' ...
 
Hmm, I hope this isn't a repost,

According to 'Channel4 Car' (original article by italiaspeed) Ferrari are planning to build a new 'Dino' to rival the V8 vantage, 911, etc.

http://www.channel4.com/4car/news/ne...?news_id=12219

To me, this is a really strange and dubious report, as I have recently read an interview with a Ferrari boss in which he said that Ferrari had no plans to make a lower-end car, they wanted to maintain the current status of the Ferrari 'brand' and not add to the lower end of their vehicle types.

Personally I was impressed with the official interview and really glad, I hope this news is not true. :?

I'll try to find the interview and quote him exactly.....

Chaos in 1983! 04-24-2006 10:55 AM

we've heard this one several times before, and I'm pretty sure this will not happen...

DeMoN 04-24-2006 11:13 AM

IF they bring back the DINO, why would it be cheaper than the f430?

Erez 04-24-2006 12:33 PM

we can only hope they will make a new dino.. well i know i'm hoping..

nejcdolinsek 04-24-2006 12:34 PM

Theres no way in hell they'll do it. If they do, I'll be PISSED OF :x :x

Fleischmann 04-24-2006 01:26 PM

They won't make it, Ferrari would loose it's exclusivity. But they could name the future 430 replacer (rumoured to have a 4.5L V8) the Dino.

numerouno 04-26-2006 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fleischmann
They won't make it, Ferrari would loose it's exclusivity. But they could name the future 430 replacer (rumoured to have a 4.5L V8) the Dino.

This seems to be the most logical decision for Ferrari.

LEXION 10-11-2006 02:02 PM

Quote:

"Last May I was invited to place a order on the much speculated Dino. I put down a deposit fully refundable incase the project did not get the green light.

Today i recieved a phone caller from the sales manager letting me know that ferrari has officially given the go ahead and that the Dino was planned for production. Unofficiall pictures were published in the german Auto Bild Magazine.

Coupe allocation for end 2007 and Spider for 1st quarter 2008 "

Se solo potevo tradure... Almeno e una persona che dice che Ferrari gli ha invitato a comprare la nuova Dino che vienera in 2007 e la Spider in 2008.

Huckfeldt impression:

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1...dinont5wr7.jpg

TopGearNL 10-11-2006 02:25 PM

Like some people say, this will not happen. Maybe they will name a Ferrari Model the Dino but they won't make a budget Ferrari Im pretty sure of that :wink:

pitfield 10-11-2006 02:37 PM

I'm sure a lot of people would ditch their 911 if there was a 70k Ferrari. Perhaps the cash would give much needed cash to the rest of Fiat.

TopGearNL 10-11-2006 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goodduck
this rumor has been around for a while. i dont think they could even do it logistically. IMO there are too many 360's out there. and making a dino would make that even worse. everyone would try to get one. it would fuck up the exclusivity.

Exactly thats the thing :!:

chest3r 10-11-2006 03:15 PM

I thought this were good news but after reading your posts I changed my mind.

You're absolutely right, it would be very bad to see as many Ferrari as I see 911's now. A Ferrari isn't a car for anyone and it should stay that way 8)


BTW. I read in a portuguese forum that Ferrari is developing a 4WD system called "insertable 4x4". Read more here:

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/10/11/f...ps-4wd-system/

ae86_16v 10-11-2006 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goodduck
this rumor has been around for a while. i dont think they could even do it logistically. IMO there are too many 360's out there. and making a dino would make that even worse. everyone would try to get one. it would fuck up the exclusivity.

I remember they were talking to the Boss about this when the 599 was released. He said they will not make a Dino, because they do not want to dilute the brand.

He said they want to focus on getting cars to the customer faster instead of these extended wait list a la 2 years for the F430.

acmarttin 10-11-2006 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chest3r
BTW. I read in a portuguese forum that Ferrari is developing a 4WD system called "insertable 4x4".

What? Did Audi buy Ferrari and nobody told me?? :roll:

bmagni 10-11-2006 09:10 PM

this ain't gonna happen.
"Ferrari won't lose its exclusivity"...they say it all the time...

RC45 10-11-2006 10:37 PM

Its probably a FWD Alfa with a Ferrari badge ;) :P

That's why they say "4WD option" - that means they stick a rear diff on the FWD platform ;)

blue8 10-13-2006 03:57 AM

"According to Automotive News, Ferrari is hard at work on a new “entry-level” model (we use that term loosely).
Details are scarce, but the model is reportedly a 2+2 with a V8 powerplant and a hard top convertible mechanism, all of which sounds suspiciously like Maserati’s plans for the next GT.
The publication believes that the model will bow in Europe sometime in 2008, with a U.S. launch likely the following year." - Winding Road (taken from Automotive News: Ferrari plans entry-level V-8 2+2)

Not sure how reliable this is. I suppose this is different from the Dino. I agree though that Ferrari would lose exclusivity if they carry out these rumored plans. And please, I don't want a Ferrari SUV (as Lamborghini is supposedly planning) !!!!

blue8 10-13-2006 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dani_d_mas
^ this car is called Maserati Gransport :wink:

haha... silly me :) well it's a relief to know that that entry-level 2x2 won't be badged a ferrari

tom333 10-16-2006 04:03 PM

Ferrari SUV?!?!?! that's blasphemy. Almost alll SUV's are disgraces to their company.

TopGearNL 10-16-2006 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom333
Ferrari SUV?!?!?! that's blasphemy. Almost alll SUV's are disgraces to their company.

I agree with that to a certain point, I like the XC90 8)

blue8 10-22-2006 05:06 AM

According to the article found in the attached link, the plans for an "entry-level", Porsche-911-fighter, "Dino" Ferrari are undergoing.

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...4/TOC01ARCHIVE

fsandys 10-22-2006 01:16 PM

Sucks if this is true :(

Plus, it would make the Ferrari management liars since I have read a reputable interview where they said they would concentrate on other areas to make profit rather than devalue the brand with lower cost GT cars.

acmarttin 10-22-2006 04:14 PM

Yeah....
Well on the plus-side now maybe someday I could afford a Ferrari. But then I'd WANT something else. Which is a sad thing to imagine :cry:

TopGearNL 10-22-2006 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dani_d_mas
First an entry-level V6 Ferrari......... then - a SUV :? :? Time will tell...

Anyway - I think this is just another rumour. It's been all over the net for the last two years that Ferrari was working on a Dino-style entry-level car... but I still don't think they will go for it, especially considering the HUGE financial success of the F430 :bah:

Yeah exactly, why would they do that :bah:

I bet Enzo Ferrari would turn in his grave if this was to happen :x

komotar 10-28-2006 03:47 PM

I was just browsing the CAR magazine site and guess what they'll have in the next issue...

Quote: "It's true! After all the denials from Maranello, we've got the exclusive news that Ferrari will build the Dino – a spiritual successor to the super-cool '60s icon. Full details inside…"

I still doubt it, but CAR ussualy doesn't talk shit, so...but I still doubt it, and I wish it wouldn't happen :?

Anyone interested, go to their site and click on what'll be in the next issue and scroll down 8)

Erez 10-28-2006 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopGearNL

Yeah exactly, why would they do that :bah:

I bet Enzo Ferrari would turn in his grave if this was to happen :x

I bet he would do it! if it was the last way to finance the F1 team ;)

but yeah.. i sure hope the day will never come!

bmagni 10-28-2006 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by komotar
I was just browsing the CAR magazine site and guess what they'll have in the next issue...

Quote: "It's true! After all the denials from Maranello, we've got the exclusive news that Ferrari will build the Dino – a spiritual successor to the super-cool '60s icon. Full details inside…"

I still doubt it, but CAR ussualy doesn't talk shit, so...but I still doubt it, and I wish it wouldn't happen :?

Anyone interested, go to their site and click on what'll be in the next issue and scroll down 8)

i really hope not !! only if its very limited production and expensive, then its ok

komotar 10-28-2006 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmagni
Quote:

Originally Posted by komotar
I was just browsing the CAR magazine site and guess what they'll have in the next issue...

Quote: "It's true! After all the denials from Maranello, we've got the exclusive news that Ferrari will build the Dino – a spiritual successor to the super-cool '60s icon. Full details inside…"

I still doubt it, but CAR ussualy doesn't talk shit, so...but I still doubt it, and I wish it wouldn't happen :?

Anyone interested, go to their site and click on what'll be in the next issue and scroll down 8)

i really hope not !! only if its very limited production and expensive, then its ok


my thoughts exactly 8)

fsandys 10-29-2006 08:24 AM

Noooooooooooooooo! http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8233/ragewj7.gif

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8233/ragewj7.gifhttp://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8233/ragewj7.gifhttp://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8233/ragewj7.gifhttp://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8233/ragewj7.gifhttp://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8233/ragewj7.gif

fsandys 10-30-2006 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAR Magazine
And as the F430 replacement is set to move from £122K to an estimated £140K base price in 2009, there'll soon be room for a new model to fill the vacuum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAR Magazine
Competing against the Aston V8, Porsche 911 Carrera S, Audi R8 and strangely more expensive Alfa 8C, the Dino is expected to carry a £94K price tag.

From the stats they've quoted, I cannot understand how it only gets compared to a Carrera S!! It would eat it alive.

blue8 10-30-2006 03:19 PM

Well even if that Dino would be an "entry-level" Ferrari, it's still a Ferrari -- performance would still be topnotch :!:

TeflonTron 10-30-2006 04:27 PM

Wasn't the original Dino actually badged as a Fiat, and never as a Ferrari? What was that all about?

TeflonTron 10-30-2006 05:30 PM

Ah, okay. Why was that then? Dino was Enzo's son, right?

nthfinity 10-30-2006 05:45 PM

lest we forget that Dino powered the Stratos as well... might we see that 'new' stratos on the road as well?

I honestly have no problem with Ferrari building a V6 model with amazing curves and proportions, and flaired fenders etc.

Ferrari's weren't always 200-600,000$ monsters new... you used to be alble to almost afford one in the past (a FErrari for 10,000 $ where a Vette was $5,000)

TeflonTron 10-30-2006 07:21 PM

Ferrari are a business and are in business to make money, and a "cheap" Ferrari will be very profitable, but at the same time they must be careful not to dilute the brand. They have to be very careful as to how they procede, IMHO.

nthfinity 10-30-2006 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dani_d_mas
Well - even if they finally produce it - be sure it won't be cheaper than 100,000€... :wink:

Anyway - a 300hp mid-engined high-revving V6, with electro-gizmos and around 1200kg should be great! :D

300hp seems still too low for a modern v6 even from the boys in red; look at the final iteration of the Dino V6...

100,000 E.... unfortunately, it will sell because of it's name... but say.. if it were to be 2x the price of a Vette, then it may be tangable, even if slower :P

chest3r 10-30-2006 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dani_d_mas
Well - even if they finally produce it - be sure it won't be cheaper than 100,000€... :wink:

I read in a Portuguese magazine ( from Auto Bild group ) that it will cost 140.000 euros without taxes. I don't remember how much power they said it will have but guess it would be something between 400 and 450. It if will cost something like 150/160k euros I guess it's not very expensive.

vexor 11-01-2006 02:05 PM

Spy shots


http://img156.imagevenue.com/loc363/..._122_363lo.jpghttp://img164.imagevenue.com/loc481/..._122_481lo.jpghttp://img138.imagevenue.com/loc493/..._122_493lo.jpghttp://img130.imagevenue.com/loc330/..._122_330lo.jpg


Quote:

Spy photographers have captured what could be the first proof that Ferrari is working on a new Dino. These pictures purportedly show a test mule of the new car, which became the subject of multiple rumors in recent weeks. Based on a F430 body, the test car doesn't give away anything about how the Dino will look, but it does seem to confirm development is underway.

The prototype's front fenders are a little wider and the side rocker panels are missing due to a different cooling system. It also looks like the area around gearbox and rear axle is slightly different. Another characteristic that identifies the test car as a mule for the Dino is its engine sound — spies say it was less sharp sounding than the a F430, and just plain different. Output is expected around 400 horsepower.

Spies also noticed both a BMW M6 and Aston Martin V8 Vantage going in and out at the Ferrari facility in Maranello, so it seems like they are the main target for the Dino as well as the legendary Porsche 911. While the F430 is about 160,000 euros, the Dino will start between 100,000 and 110,000 euros.
- LeftLaneNews.com

chest3r 11-01-2006 07:02 PM

Damn!! I was searching for this topic to post those pics, but I'm late :roll:

If the experts say that test mule is a new Ferrari model, than I have now doubts about the most recent news. I just hope it will look good cause I already know it will be a great car :lol: :P


Quote:

Originally Posted by dani_d_mas
^ that's the price of a F430 in Spain! :?

:roll: :roll: Is it ?? In Portugal it costs 180.000 euros. At least it has a positive side: Portuguese Ferrari drivers have more money than spanish ones :P

tom333 11-09-2006 02:33 AM

Chance of Ferrari building a new dino.... 0.

cooperluke 11-09-2006 06:44 AM

Very beautiful, very "sharkish"! :D

tom333 12-01-2006 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom333
Chance of Ferrari building a new dino.... 0.

Wow, tom333 you were right!!!

Yesterday and the LA autoshow Ferrari Press Conference Amedeo Felisa said they will not build a cheaper Ferrari.

fsandys 12-01-2006 03:34 PM

FANTASTIC NEWS if it is guaranteed! :D


I just have one question since I was pretty sure they would not do it, it's just all the press and others seemed to sure they DEFINITLY would.

Where do they get this carp from then?? :?

TopGearNL 12-01-2006 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fsandys
FANTASTIC NEWS if it is guaranteed! :D


I just have one question since I was pretty sure they would not do it, it's just all the press and others seemed to sure they DEFINITLY would.

Where do they get this carp from then?? :?

If theres no news they just make things up I guess :?

Chaos in 1983! 12-04-2006 10:58 AM

I don't buy that story, it seems to fabricated...and why on earth would they test a front engined car on a mid engined mule? stupid, and what's this about a V-10 F430...it all seems too made up.

IMO I still think there will be no dino...

fsandys 12-04-2006 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dani_d_mas
... reminds me of the Cayman :wink:

And that is not enough to make you NOT want it to be built?
:wink:

Is for me!!!

chest3r 12-04-2006 06:46 PM

They might say it's not gonna be built but now I'm sure it will :D

Wanna see why it reminds you of the Cayman ??

http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/ferrari_dino_4.jpg
http://img418.imageshack.us/img418/8815/1053bigqt0.jpg

http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/ferrari_dino_1.jpg
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5087/1050bighq3.jpg

Someone has been playing with a F599 and a Cayman :P :mrgreen:

fsandys 12-04-2006 07:11 PM

LOL that's unquestionable! :D

(You're sure it WILL be built? :? )

chest3r 12-04-2006 07:22 PM

^^ I noticed the photoshops were based on the Cayman but I found the original pics in a portuguese forum :)


fsandys: We can only be sure when Ferrari says something :wink:

TopGearNL 12-04-2006 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chest3r
^^ I noticed the photoshops were based on the Cayman but I found the original pics in a portuguese forum :)


fsandys: We can only be sure when Ferrari says something :wink:

So well found!!

fsandys is owned 8)


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