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admcewen 07-28-2009 07:59 AM

Ferrari 458 Italia
 
Well here she is...

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/241891/

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Se...new-V8-280709/

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/f...lia-2009-07-28

http://www.imotormag.co.uk/news/2936..._interior.html

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/au..._revealed.html

http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/23...58_italia.html

HI res:

http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/ferr...italia-1/full/

zeus_2011 07-28-2009 08:42 AM

Gets thumbsup from me....like the F40ish exhausts, looks better from the rear and probably even better in a different colour!

pitfield 07-28-2009 10:12 AM

an Evora with 370Z headlights

enzoferrari 07-28-2009 01:50 PM

They killed the 430 look, I dont like it :(

Minacious 07-28-2009 02:07 PM

I am going to need to see it in person, because based on these renderings, no.

HeilSvenska 07-28-2009 02:15 PM

That's such an unappealing name. And such an unappealing car.

I feel sick. It looks like one of the leftovers from the student design contest they had few years back.

MidEngine4Life 07-28-2009 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pitfield (Post 869131)
an Evora with 370Z headlights

I agree it does have similar lines with the evora. Far from 370 lights though. Its not too bad. Better than the California I think

fordgt84 07-28-2009 04:30 PM

I think the real thing will be far better looking than the 430..and I'm really liking the F40 exhausts too.

Emericaskate 07-28-2009 07:02 PM

yea nice touch with the f40 exhausts. Its hard to judge, im going to hold judgement until we see a picture of one in the flesh

Chaos in 1983! 07-28-2009 07:12 PM

I think it is beautiful, it is the first ferrari ever since the 355 that i've liked as soon as I saw the press pics, which usually give you the wrong idea of the car...

I love the longer look of it, the enzoesque profile, even the triple exhaust which I must admit looks a bit odd, but odd in a good way. The only think I am not totally comfortable with are the headlights, but I will not judge that until I have seen a good pic of the front.

pitfield 07-28-2009 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MidEngine4Life (Post 869141)
I agree it does have similar lines with the evora. Far from 370 lights though. Its not too bad. Better than the California I think

Don't get me wrong, I think it looks brilliant.

HeilSvenska 07-28-2009 09:47 PM

Although I'd never say that it's conventionally beautiful, there's no doubt that it'll make every other new car look 10 years out of date.

Minor gripes, the 3 exhaust pipes look kinda tacky. If the middle one were a big smaller...
Too bad the door handles aren't flush.

But the dash looks brilliant.

mayer 07-28-2009 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaos in 1983! (Post 869147)
I think it is beautiful, it is the first ferrari ever since the 355 that i've liked as soon as I saw the press pics, which usually give you the wrong idea of the car...

I love the longer look of it, the enzoesque profile, even the triple exhaust which I must admit looks a bit odd, but odd in a good way. The only think I am not totally comfortable with are the headlights, but I will not judge that until I have seen a good pic of the front.

Yep! I like the 360 and 430, but I haven't thought a Ferrari has looked downright effing awesome since the F355 (aside from the crazy looking Enzo).

I think this is one cool, curvaceous, and great looking exotic. Power is up, weight is down, shift speed is up, better handling, etc.....now if I only had the money, I'd put a deposit down.

EDIT: I'm also pleasantly surprised after the ugly California was introduced. Wonder how much it'll cost, and what it'll do to California sales if priced in the $200k range?

dons5 07-31-2009 12:59 AM

as usual as it happened with the 360, Enzo, F430, 599, etc etc

1. The cars dont look that good in pics, especially Ferrari's official preview pics.

2. The cars are so ahead of their time, that it takes time for people to like the look, then sooner or later they love the look.

3. Once you see it in real life (especially while moving on a road, not parked in some showroom), people are stunned and in disbelief in how unbelievable they look. Especially compared to any other current competitors car.

360 spyder pics to a certain extent can get a little boring nowadays, yet when I saw one parked last night I was there for 10 minutes in awe admiring its shape from every angle and couldnt believe how exotic and new it still looks, it looks like a new car, the 360 came out in 1999! Thats a 10 year old body style!!!!!! There was a db9 beside it and a brand new jag xk, while the Aston is obviously beautiful, it doesnt compare to the 10 year old body of the 360 spyder, just so much more exoticness and sexy. Of course the DB9 is very beautiful, but I cant look at it for 10 mins from every angle without eventually getting "used to it", the 360 even as I was walking away after admiring it for 10 mins, I would turn around to look back at it and still couldnt hold in the smile/laugh, the shape stays exciting no matter how long you look at it for.

Its the same routine everytime a new Ferrari comes out.

I remeber when looking at photos of the Enzo when new, wow I was like what in the hell is that shit. Have you ever seen it in real life??? lolol wow the thing is STUNNING x10000, Keonegsegs, Ascaris, Veyrons, Carrera GT, Merc SLR, Gumbert Apollo, SSC Ultimate Aero, etc etc. Nothing can compare to an Enzo when it comes to pure style and exoticness, except possibly a Zonda, but even that has all the big wings and wild over the top styling cues where the Enzo is just more pure. Oh ya, and it came out in 01 or 02, its 7 or 8 years old!

This routine happens all the time with every new Ferrari just get used to it.

yg60m 07-31-2009 03:16 PM

I like it very much ! :thumbup:

HeilSvenska 07-31-2009 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dons5 (Post 869262)
360 spyder pics to a certain extent can get a little boring nowadays, yet when I saw one parked last night I was there for 10 minutes in awe admiring its shape from every angle and couldnt believe how exotic and new it still looks, it looks like a new car, the 360 came out in 1999! Thats a 10 year old body style!!!!!! There was a db9 beside it and a brand new jag xk, while the Aston is obviously beautiful, it doesnt compare to the 10 year old body of the 360 spyder, just so much more exoticness and sexy. Of course the DB9 is very beautiful, but I cant look at it for 10 mins from every angle without eventually getting "used to it", the 360 even as I was walking away after admiring it for 10 mins, I would turn around to look back at it and still couldnt hold in the smile/laugh, the shape stays exciting no matter how long you look at it for.

I'll have to disagree and agree. A new Ferrari is an occasion, but these new Ferraris just aren't doing anything for me. The 360 and the 550 and the 456 aren't touted as design icons, nor do I think that people think of them as memorable, but I like them a lot more than any of the new Ferraris. The point I'm trying to make is that Ferrari designs haven't been successful automatically because they were Ferraris, but because Pininfarina actually did design cars very carefully, with classic proportions. Not ostentatious or shouty, but proper. Now days, Ferraris look crass with unusual proportions and intriguing yet frankly unattractive adornments that seem to be more for novelty than anything else. I'm sure they're very functional too seeing how it's Ferrari.

It's interesting that you "get used to" a DB9. It's one of those cars that make me appreciate its design more and more as I stare at it. It's a GT done right. Everything looks effortlessly perfect. Classic example of how a luxury car should look. Strong stance, simple yet effective outline, with few detailed adornments. I think the same way about the 360. I think that's why it looks so good. The F430 look like a 360 with too much makeup on (which in a way, it is). The 612 is just bizarre, and the 599 is hideous. And California, in a way, reminds me of the Mondial cabrio.

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Originally Posted by dons5 (Post 869262)
I remeber when looking at photos of the Enzo when new, wow I was like what in the hell is that shit. Have you ever seen it in real life??? lolol wow the thing is STUNNING x10000, Keonegsegs, Ascaris, Veyrons, Carrera GT, Merc SLR, Gumbert Apollo, SSC Ultimate Aero, etc etc. Nothing can compare to an Enzo when it comes to pure style and exoticness, except possibly a Zonda, but even that has all the big wings and wild over the top styling cues where the Enzo is just more pure. Oh ya, and it came out in 01 or 02, its 7 or 8 years old!

This routine happens all the time with every new Ferrari just get used to it.

I was really excited when the Enzo came out. I went to the LA auto show, went into the Ferrari booth and saw it, took a picture with it etc... Then I got to see it more times, and frankly, it's an ugly car. Interesting? Yes. Technically brilliant? Yes. Pretty? No. It's not remotely attractive in my eyes. The shape is really interesting. The cutlines are pretty elaborate. All the panels, I'm sure, are very functional. But everything's so wrong. The proportion's hideous. So much front overhang. The doors are massive and unwieldy. The surfaces are pretty flat and uninteresting by themselves. The car seems to have been designed purely on aerodynamic experimentation rather than any sense of aesthetics.

I'd say, for an identical car, the MC12 looks much better, if not overadorned. At least they bothered to stretch the rear end out to balance the front overhang. It's funny that you mentioned the Carrera GT, because I was just thinking this morning that Carrera GT is possibly the "prettiest" car out of the group. It's got everything right, yet because it hasn't got a visual gimmick, it's apparently the most forgettable.

BTW, the Zonda and the Koenigsegg's designs are much older than the Enzo. They're actually from the 90's.

No doubt the new Ferrari will be highly reviewed, and sought after. The real question is, do people buy new Ferraris because they are plain beautiful anymore?

Mattk 08-01-2009 04:55 AM

It caught my eye when I was reading the Saturday paper earlier today, but I can't say it did much else. But, as everyone else has said, we haven't seen it in the metal yet, so there's much to look forward to.

dons5 08-01-2009 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeilSvenska (Post 869288)
I was really excited when the Enzo came out. I went to the LA auto show, went into the Ferrari booth and saw it, took a picture with it etc... Then I got to see it more times, and frankly, it's an ugly car. Interesting? Yes. Technically brilliant? Yes. Pretty? No. It's not remotely attractive in my eyes. The shape is really interesting. The cutlines are pretty elaborate. All the panels, I'm sure, are very functional. But everything's so wrong. The proportion's hideous. So much front overhang. The doors are massive and unwieldy. The surfaces are pretty flat and uninteresting by themselves. The car seems to have been designed purely on aerodynamic experimentation rather than any sense of aesthetics.

I'd say, for an identical car, the MC12 looks much better, if not overadorned. At least they bothered to stretch the rear end out to balance the front overhang. It's funny that you mentioned the Carrera GT, because I was just thinking this morning that Carrera GT is possibly the "prettiest" car out of the group. It's got everything right, yet because it hasn't got a visual gimmick, it's apparently the most forgettable.

I dunno I think the Enzo looks bette rthan the Maserati MC12 and at the same time looks just as, if not more "right" and proportioned then the mc12. I was staring at an mc12 maybe 2 or 3 years ago, and yes its definetely up there, but its no enzo. The long and super duper low front overhang and nose of the enzo perfectly matches the long flattish rear. I hate the cars these days comming out with boxed and big looking flattened out front ends, the enzos is super low and thin, like most cars used to be until around the early 2000's ( i think it has something to do with pedestrian frontal impact safety laws or something). I cant explain it, the enzo is just perfect to me.

I saw a carrera GT downtown maybe 2 summers ago, beautiful, gorgeous etc I had to go around the block, park and walk to it to look at it for like i dunno 15 or so mins. But after that I was like ok ya its freakin beautiful but time to go now (although i had to do a quick final drive by before going home lol), but it just wasnt exotic enough like a "hypercar" should be. The Enzo, i just couldnt believe it, the Carrera GT was like oh my fuckin god that thing is sooooooooo fuckin NICE!!, but the Enzo was just like, hoooolllllyyyyyyyyyyyy fuuuccccckkkkkkkkkk, wow, omg, holy shit, wow, wow and you can never get over it lol.

Im rambling on and all this is pointless cause everyone has there own oppinions, but the Carrera GT looked too similiar in real life as it does in pics and vids (same with the Audi R8), so I was SLIGHTLY just SLIGHTLY TINY bit disapointed when i saw it for the first time in person. When I saw the Enzo though in real life, it just blew me away, i was speechless, literally.

I think Tiff Needel on 5th Gear said the same thing in a really old review, says something like "looks akward and funny in pics, kinda ugly. Then you see it in person and its just stunning".

In your defence though, i remember an article maybe 1-2 years after the Enzo came out where Ferrari themselves stated if they had the same tech as they had at that time back when they made the Enzo, they could have made it more beautiful. So I guess even Ferrari agree they werent satisfied with it truly 100%, looks wise.

RC45 08-01-2009 11:44 AM

One of the ugliest most mixed up looking Ferraris of the modern era.

The 355, F40 and 550/575 where the last great looking Ferraris of their respective ranges - everything since then has been getting steadily worse and worse.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeilSvenska (Post 869288)
No doubt the new Ferrari will be highly reviewed, and sought after. The real question is, do people buy new Ferraris because they are plain beautiful anymore?

Few new F-cars purchased today are because of the engineering or design - they are just the appropiate status symbol of the time.

gigdy 08-04-2009 11:10 AM

Id still let it impregnate me.

numerouno 08-27-2009 07:34 PM

Wow! the updated images make it look even better for me! A definite calssic to be in the near future! :thumbup:

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5vz-fe 08-28-2009 12:03 AM

Thanks for the hi-res photos numerouno

The front of the car doesn't look like Ferrari. I esp hated it being double badged (the lower one on the front air vent is very out of place)

The way it channel air into the engine is quite nicely done tho. I don't like the dual single tail lamp design, make it looks like a frog.

5vz-fe 08-28-2009 03:07 AM

^A pretty low budget production film by Ferrari standard. and the music......

That said, the aero engineering is quite amazing

nthfinity 09-02-2009 01:00 PM

http://speciali.ferrari.com/458italia/index_en.html

the Performance tab is online today :)

loliea 09-02-2009 03:38 PM

The front looks like a Citroen concept car... but I like it so far.

admcewen 09-15-2009 08:40 AM

Just found more Hi res ones!!

http://www.netcarshow.com/ferrari/2011-458_italia/

fireguy 09-15-2009 04:19 PM

here is the first official video by ferrari......it's a nice one too!


hemi_fan 09-15-2009 06:58 PM

very nice! I see they haven't lost their ability to make music out of gasoline and metal.

nthfinity 09-16-2009 02:02 AM

"filmed by Alexander Paul"

Well, I already liked this car... now I'm bursting with anticipation :D

MidEngine4Life 09-17-2009 05:15 AM

Sweet video. Still think the back of the car is hideous though


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