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possessed_beaver 06-09-2003 12:50 AM

NISSAN SKYLINE
 
ok.. u guys all know how predictable i am.. so u probley saw a skyline topic comming.. and here it is!!!!

in all there supercar glory!

http://www.carsurvey.org/images/nissan_skyline_1.jpg
http://www.jbskyline.net/R34/GTR/R34...ront%20top.jpg

and look at this dream interiour:
http://www.jbskyline.net/R34/GTR/Sho...%20Cockpit.gif

love....
yes yes it is

avreyone bust out ya skyline pic's

SL55 AMG 06-09-2003 01:43 AM

Skyline a supercar?

BIG 6 Cyl

Enzo, Pagani, Veyron 16-4= supercar

Skyline is a 'sports'car......i dont like it :)

Over priced and not that fast

novass 06-09-2003 01:53 AM

careful SL55 your gonna incite a riot dissin the skyline. its not my favorite car, but they have been known to make quite a bit of power. power is somethin i will always like no matter where it comes from. you could attach a V8 to a pile of horse manure and ill drive it!!

SL55 AMG 06-09-2003 01:57 AM

no no i give props to the skyline just if it were my money.....atleast to import to the states and that crap much better stuff for same price thats all

No offense to the japanese fans

NSX is the same 80-90 grand for 3.2L 290hp Not worth it for me
just value for your cash here guys never driven either so i cant put them down

IMO!!!

666fast 06-09-2003 02:14 AM

Skylines are sweet, but not worth the money. If they were sold here without the giant markup, it would be different. But $90,000 for a Skyline is money wasted, you could have a very nice Ferrari or a really fast Corvette! Both of which I would rather have.
They are cool, just not worth the money when living in The US.

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/04/skyline.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/installs...14_68_full.jpg

novass 06-09-2003 02:15 AM

LOL...a lot of the japanese import fans get defensive whenever you say anything about their cars. maybe compensating for small cubic inches LOL. to be honest i like the best of everything, but like you said the skyline is way too expensive for what it is when its imported.

seems like everyone nowadays wants a skyline....if its gonna cost me the same amount as a 911 turbo, id take the turbo everytime. plus the steering wheel is on the proper side LOL

gis 06-09-2003 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SL55 AMG
Skyline a supercar?

BIG 6 Cyl

Enzo, Pagani, Veyron 16-4= supercar

Skyline is a 'sports'car......i dont like it :)

Over priced and not that fast

not that fast,arent u a silly boy.

for the class its in,its top of it.as youve seen these cars can handle power over 1000hp

in the uk the r34 cost 50k,i cant really think of many cars that can hang with it around a track,supposed to have the most advanced awd system.

sikx5 06-09-2003 08:24 AM

Skyline Pics
 
Hey fellas,
Has anyone got any wallpaper size pics of the skyline? its a legend in its own right. One of the nicest cars to come out of Japan i say...

Banchi105 06-09-2003 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gis
not that fast,arent u a silly boy.

for the class its in,its top of it.as youve seen these cars can handle power over 1000hp

in the uk the r34 cost 50k,i cant really think of many cars that can hang with it around a track,supposed to have the most advanced awd system.


I also dont believe that the skyline is a "supercar". And just because it can handle over 1000hp doesnt make it a "supercar". If I modified a Honda Civic to 1000hp would that make it a "supercar. Definately not. Skylines are nice and all, but clearly overpriced here in the U.S. and they definately do not get my blood pumping or my vote as a supercar.

:D

gis 06-09-2003 10:41 AM

in what i wrote,did the two words skyline and supercar go next to eachother,or even did the word supercar enter in what i said, :roll: NO,i said it was top of its class of cars

read next time

Jabba 06-09-2003 10:46 AM

hmmm its a tough one....its not quite a supercar like an exotic is such as an F50 or Diablo as I would say a test of a real supercar is that you shouldnt really be able to use it as a daily driver....

I wouldnt consider an F355 or F360 to be a supercar either but an Enzo or Zonda yes.....

The skyline is very special indeed....and its a supercar in its own way and certainely a supercar of its class IMO

possessed_beaver 06-09-2003 01:00 PM

ok u ppl r tools aye
im not making the argument of the price...
but i mite aswell talk 2 a brick wall.. they are a awsome budget supercar... end of story

b4 u start bagging them know stuff about them plz

gis 06-09-2003 01:51 PM

if yoou like the skyline you would buy regardless of the price

666fast 06-09-2003 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by possessed_beaver
ok u ppl r tools aye
im not making the argument of the price...
but i mite aswell talk 2 a brick wall.. they are a awsome budget supercar... end of story

b4 u start bagging them know stuff about them plz

$90,000 US Dollars is hardly a budget supercar. They might be in other areas of the world but not here in America.
I also know quite a bit about them, I do like them, it's just that they are not worth the money when bought here. If I lived in the UK or Japan it would be a different story.


Quote:

Hey fellas,
Has anyone got any wallpaper size pics of the skyline? its a legend in its own right. One of the nicest cars to come out of Japan i say...
Here ya go.
http://www.fantasycars.com/derek/car...tr_2.jpg<br />
http://www.fantasycars.com/derek/car...ssan/gtr_4.jpg

SL55 AMG 06-09-2003 06:21 PM

what did i start :roll: :cry:

should have listened to u novass

666fast 06-09-2003 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SL55 AMG
what did i start :roll: :cry:

should have listened to u novass

Heh, it's all your fault.

Seriously though, the Skyline is a nice car, but I probably won't ever buy one unless they are officially sold here.

novass 06-09-2003 07:35 PM

ive never heard anything bad about the skyline and ive seen plenty of fast ones on video, but thats just it i have only seen one in person and it was at a car show. its a nice car, but for americans it practically doesnt exist. im not dissing the skyline, i think its a good car, 2turbos and all wheel drive is always good but because of its price and unavailability here i dont know much about it. if Nissan would sell them here for the same price my opinion would definitly change.

possessed_beaver 06-09-2003 10:36 PM

guys the point im trying 2 make is that it's a good car....
and unfortnautley it costs you so much, and actualy if u brought on direct from japan for a track car it would be pretty cheap!
something in the range of $50 000 and below (doing rough calculations)
but unfortanutaly thoes companys are making BIG profits..

by been a import yard, not a private importer

666fast 06-10-2003 12:42 AM

We all know it's a good car, there is no argueing that. Anyone who says it's junk needs to be beaten.
Just so everyone knows, we can get Skyline's for less than $30,000 here. but who wants a Skyline GTS?
The other major problem with a Skyline in the States is the insurance. God only knows what that will cost!


Trust me, if I could have a R34 for list price, official car (not imported) and actually had the money, I'd buy one.

hyspeed 06-10-2003 03:31 AM

nice car nice car....yes yes....(in a silly tone) lol.

to me, it was the most high tech car until the Volvo S60R came along.....

SDK2003 06-10-2003 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gis
in the uk the r34 cost 50k,i cant really think of many cars that can hang with it around a track,supposed to have the most advanced awd system.

I've been in many standard and modded Skylines R34's around a track and they are not that great.
They look good on the road and are very quick but are outclassed by cheaper Mitsubishi Evo's on track

gis 06-10-2003 06:14 PM

well the evo is faster than the skyline,lighter aswell,so around a track i can understand they are

Kilalee 06-10-2003 09:29 PM

I think I like both about the same, but I think around the track the EVO is better. Then again............

SilviaS15Cwest 06-10-2003 09:52 PM

Skylines are cute and all but there not Super car status. Nothing under 100,000 bucks can be super car status.

PaulGT2164 06-11-2003 12:20 AM

the skyline is awesome, its prolly the meanest 4 door 6cyl car you can buy, and i drive some mean 4 doors often (audi S4, 13.9 sec Galant, new maximas, beemers, etc)
and in the countries where they are sold, they are a really good deal for the money, seeming the punch they pack and the performance.

its pointless to argue its price in the usA cause they where never sold here. 90k is too much for it, but seeming you can by them slightly used in japan for around 20-25k dollars thats a hella deal

possessed_beaver 06-11-2003 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilviaS15Cwest
Skylines are cute and all but there not Super car status. Nothing under 100,000 bucks can be super car status.


that's the beauty... it is cheap, and it's a supercar!

1zippo1 06-11-2003 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilviaS15Cwest
Skylines are cute and all but there not Super car status. Nothing under 100,000 bucks can be super car status.

I won't argue if it is a supercar, people seem to have different images of supercar's. Tiff called the Pagani a real supercar and sayed the name supercar was somewhat abused these days. And to compare a Nissan Skyline with a Pagani ... well that's not really fare, is it?

I don't think a car has to cost 100,000 bucks before it can be called a supercar. I think the radical could earn that name, certainly the :1500cc - 252 bhp version. Why? because it is faster then, about anything on the track really (stock car's). Ok, you can argue, it's not an exotic car and it doesn't look like much (in my oppinion). But it's my oppion! The same goes for the Skyline, it has it good points and for some people who like it, it might be a supercar, for others just a good sports car.

stracing 06-11-2003 01:06 PM

they are a thing of beauty and i absolutely love them.

whether they are a supercar or not, they alwasy get heads turning.

as for power, i think the manufacture agreement restricted them.

SDK2003 06-11-2003 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stracing
as for power, i think the manufacture agreement restricted them.

Yeah, stock they are 280bhp but very easily tunable to 450bhp+

The Skyline is a GT car not a Supercar, classed the same as an an E39 M3 and Porsche 911

gis 06-11-2003 04:07 PM

they say 280,but many people here in the uk have dyno'd them at around 350hp

d100x 06-11-2003 05:30 PM

Skylines, like Supras, do not come standard with a significant amount of power, but have a lot of potential. There are more than a few with well over 1000 hp. Also, there are some cars that cost less than 30 000 pounds (UK) that do 0-60 in 3.4.

666fast 06-11-2003 05:54 PM

300 plus out of a stock V6 isn't significant? I'd say it's pretty damn good.

stracing 06-12-2003 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 666fast
300 plus out of a stock V6 isn't significant? I'd say it's pretty damn good.

if its NA, then yea. but with two extra turbos!! 300 doesn't sound much

SDK2003 06-12-2003 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stracing
Quote:

Originally Posted by 666fast
300 plus out of a stock V6 isn't significant? I'd say it's pretty damn good.

if its NA, then yea. but with two extra turbos!! 300 doesn't sound much

The Turbos run low PSI as standard which explains the low bhp figure

toprpm 06-12-2003 05:44 PM

this is what i call skyline
 
Skyline gtr 34. 600+HP 6 manual. 2000 model upgraded by fujimora auto
bought for $36,000 dollars. location UAE





http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/219...4865889_vl.jpg
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/219...2236279_vl.jpg
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/219...5001691_vl.jpg
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/219...5279134_vl.jpg

WhiteP 06-13-2003 05:14 AM

Skyline GTR is fast but not faster than those high price tag supercars (zonda, mclaren) of course. The skyline series has a very long history and they won many many championships in Japan. In 199?, a skyline GTR R32 outrun all the cars in a completition in just half a lap, nobody can see its taillight.

The engine RB26DET is very tunable, it can easily be tuned to 1000hp. Of course, Civic can be tuned to 1000 too, but how long can the engine withstand the heat without blowing up?

The AWD system is basically a RWD system with more traction. Thanks to the ETS system. Most of the torque and power goes to the rear wheels on GTR so the balance of the car in the corner is amazing. There are also many electronic gadgets in the GTR.

However, the heavy weight of Skyline is the main disadvantage for the car. Unlike other supercars that have aluminum, carbon fibre bodies.

Anyways, with just a bit money, GTR can be very fast on the road.

gis 06-13-2003 06:41 AM

the r34 v-spec 2 comes with carbon fibre on it doesnt it

toprpm 06-13-2003 06:53 AM

no ..the r34 - vspec 2 ..does not come with carbon fiber ...

possessed_beaver 06-13-2003 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gis
the r34 v-spec 2 comes with carbon fibre on it doesnt it

to my knowlage, it comes with carbon fibre spoiler, and under the body

the skylines got banned from the races in australia
cuz they kept winning

toprpm 06-13-2003 10:47 AM

thats true ...and not only australia ..also Germany ..i as i know .

gis 06-13-2003 11:00 AM

yeah thats what i was yold,carbon fibre bonnet (hood,to others) and carbon rear spoiler

toprpm 06-13-2003 01:58 PM

the carbon fiber you see in the pic i posted ....cost a bout $3000 it isn't cheap

gis 06-13-2003 02:00 PM

i didnt doubt that it wud be cheaP,im just sayin that the r34 vspec 2 comes stock with carbon fibre on it

toprpm 06-13-2003 02:14 PM

yeah under the car from the front to the back ....i had to cut a peice of the back kit .so i can fit the exhsaust system .....

maalox 06-14-2003 12:30 AM

I've always thought of the GTR as a sports car like a 911 of a 360. They're definitely not supercars, but they're not touring cars like a true GT. They emphasize balance over overall pace ( = better in my opinion). It could stand to lose some weight though.

SDK2003 06-14-2003 06:32 AM

A 'sports' car does not have 4WD


Sports Cars :

Porsche Boxster
Honda S2000
BMW M Roadster (Z3 possibly)
Lotus Elise
TVR cars
etc


GT Cars :

Aston Martin DB7
Jaguar XK8
Noble M12 GTO
Nissan Skyline
Porsche 911
Etc

1zippo1 06-14-2003 06:54 AM

Noble M12 GTO = a GT car?? I don't agree with that, first of all it has a lightweight body + a turbo carged enigine. And there is minimal confort.

I think that is a more pure sportscar then any of the car's in your sports car list.

maalox 06-14-2003 02:42 PM

SDK, all the cars you listed as sports cars are roadsters; was that intentional or just a coincidence?

I think the old formula of sports car = light, fast, rwd doesn't necessarily apply so much any more. The Skyline and GTO are definitely not Gran Turismos since they are so stiffly sprung. GT cars should effortlessly travel hundreds of miles on an autobahn (for example, an SL55, or maybe even a 911 Turbo). If anything they emphasize track performance over everyday drivability (that's why the M-Spec GT-R was created: the regular GT-R was too nervous for high speed commuting).

Anyway, just my opinion, I'd be interested to hear more of what you have to say.

Flawless 06-14-2003 11:34 PM

Quote:

I think the old formula of sports car = light, fast, rwd doesn't necessarily apply so much any more
To a certain extent I would definetly agree with you. But sports cars still= light fast. RWD does not appy so much because of what is accomplished now with awd.

SFDMALEX 06-15-2003 12:06 AM

All I can say about Skylines is that they are good cars but nothing special. I rarely ever saw a video of one or one in person that is not modified. Thats the problem with the car they are all modded because they are not good enough in their stock configuration. Thats what I dont dislike about the car, they always need to be modded to perform good. Yes a modded skyline will win against a stock F355, but If I start modding the 355 the skyline is going to get smoked like a peace of ham on a bbq. A 355 with a twin turbo only(only a twin turbo and a new ECU chip) can pump out 560hp at rear tyres and 0-60 3.7sec.


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