Clarkson is the man!
Clarkson was in South Africa (dont know if any of you know the little place I call home) recently together with Richard Hammond for the MPH 2007 show where you sit in a theatre and they show you all the latest cars! He entered the arena in a gallardo spyder doing drifts and filling the entire place with smoke. He told us about his Ford GT and how he has bought and sold it 3 times and finally decided to grow up so he bought a Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder (?)
After the show he gave out autographs and I had the oppertunity to speak to him. What a great guy, his passion for cars once again showed when I asked him if he will miss his Ford GT, he said that in an ideal world he would drive that car until its end but just had to face reality and sell the bloody thing...so my question is simple: What do you think of Mr Clarkson? |
any chance you took some pics?
I like Clarkson, he is very smart guy have a good sence of humor wich alot of people dont understand 8) |
I am with you racingfreak, Clarkson is the man. He has a very special sense of humor that i really enjoy in the show
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the title of this thread says it all.
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JC is almost a god among the journalist in general, and he is god among the TV motoring journalist; its more than enough to see how much influence he gets for brands for better or for worse
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good for you dude 8)
me, I love Clarkson I dont always agree with him (maily on German cars.. :lol: ) but he's awesome 8) |
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It has been authoritatively mentioned that Clarkson can't drive. --> http://www.motorworld.net/forum/show...light=clarkson :lol: :lol: :lol: |
I laugh at his jokes quite a lot...
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OK, so the first is a pic of my buddy with clarkson and the second one him getting out of the gallardo with the smoke still hanging in the air. He is quite a tall bloke as well, cause my buddy is 1.92m! (As far as I know jeremy is 1.93m.) Did you know that he has got 3 donkeys, was a passenger on the last concorde flight and his wife drives a aston martin V8 vantage..?
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nice way to twist that bit of information that others' weren't privy to to your own humerous content. The fact still remains, he didn't drive the GT in all those shots around the Bedford landing strip; and that he was edited in later to simulate the same movements. That is the basis of that fact, not on any other drives, besides his own Suzuki Liana lap time of 1:50. :| :| :| Sameer, your simply being a JC fanboy, and it makes no sence. I also contend that Clarkson is highly entertaining. About the GT being sold and bought back 3 times, refer to my other topic ;) |
It's kinda weird to see Clarkson in a Gallardo Spyder, specially after what he said about the F430 Spyder :roll:
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as an aside... the market may determin what cars he buys and sells now; G spyders and F430 spyders are both in demand whilst retaining thier value; while the FGT is set to come down in price... a bit at least. |
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the fact is, Jeremy Clarkson is entertainment; nearly EVERYBODY has accepted that a long time ago. I am mearly playing the devils advocate, and finding logical reasons for his actions. as to my sources, they are infallable, as they were the guys who made the car, dealt directly with him in his chronic "failures" of his Ford GT, were there to provide a test driver for filming, as well as the car... for christs sake. Where are yours? come to the table when you have something valuable to inject the thread with. I don't see you talking about the behind stories about driving the old RS2, or the backstories behind the various tests of the Audi TT etc. etc. etc. I am not trying to discretit him. He has long since done that on his own as far as being a honest journalist... he has long been a guy who changes his mind with the wind, and says one thing while doing another. I have nothing to do with influencing him. That, IMHO is a no brainer. I hope the guy stays on the air for a long time yet; and I assume you do as well... in the mean time, why don't you re-watch many of the old comparo's and see what he says, read what he says before you accuse me of discrediting him, nor attempting to discredit me with [b] zero substance [\b] to back up your claim. |
Ill miss the GT! But the Gallardo Spyder is truly an awesome car!
And for once I actually agree with Brembo in this topic! He think Ferrari's are god, quite right. But like he said who wants 5 way TC?? :| |
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I can't believe how below the belt you have gotten. Consider this an end. |
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WOW!!! I did not for one second think that my post would create such controversy!
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I like Clarkson and love Top Gear but I don't view either as the end all, say all in automotive journalism, nor should anyone else IMO. Speaking for myself and I assume others here, I will never buy a car because someone tells me too nor will I not buy one because someone tells me not too. I take all the information given from shows like Top Gear, magazines, test drives, other owners, etc and form my own opinion. If I like something I will buy it, I could care less what someone down the block thinks of it.
I actually find it funny when his biased opinion comes out. Every time he reviews something British, I can almost expect what he is gonna say. "The interior is shit, the engine is shit, it looks like shit.........but......its the best car in the world." Thats a bit of an exaggeration, but I love how he disses a car then promptly follows it up with a "BUT" and says the complete opposite. That being said, I do think Clarkson has credibility through his experiences and he is a great TV personality, but at the end of the day he is just another opinion and Top Gear is just a TV show. I still love to watch Top Gear and Clarkson's DVDs are always entertaining. |
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furthermore, I have often mentioned sources (e.g. Kip Ewing, or sometimes others who wish not to be specifically named... christ, some of these guys will have to deal with Jeremy Clarkson in the future you know). Next, why would I lie? I enjoy Clarkson reviews, and always have. There is no agenda to discredit him; if that is what you see this as, then that is your opinon based on the material I have provided. There is no agenda in the truth. Is there nothing you can bring out that can possibly discredit me... through even now, you are only at slander (think of Rosie accusing Trump of being bankrupt) When in fact you are only out to get me (why?) I know 3 people in Michigan who have dealt specifically with Jeremy, two of which were during the Ford GT project, and one during the making of Motorworld Detroit (Green 68 GTO convertible found in it). Quote:
Since I took over the American Muscle forum, you have been out to discredit me; and still yet, you can't provide any single evidence I have lied, streatched the truth, or made up stories. Non stop slander... this is beyond opinion. Somehow, not one of the stories I posted did people find outrageous, and not plausable even; except you, and a few fanboys. Are you a fanboy, or are you simply a biggot, pregudice prick? Quote:
It is as a good friend suddenly telling the world lies about me... and drama? no; again, you are making accusations without backing a single thing up with evidence. Perhaps you take political views personally? I for one know you have spoken behind one member of that group's back to another member... Nice way to continue being a friend, isn't it? Get a life; make some contacts, get to know people who have more then 1/2 a brain... maybe then too you'll get some back stories on cars, people involved in cars, big stories that have since gone cold... but alas, you haven't... ever. What exactly do you contribute here? I've gathered a small amount of photo evidence that I know who I say I know, obviously, its a waste of time for the likes of you; but I won't take this slander. I've worked too hard to start making up stories now, in the past, or ever. http://www.nthimage.com/create_hits/...Tai_Tang_1.jpg SVT/APC chief http://www.nthimage.com/create_hits/...milo_pardo.jpg http://www.nthimage.com/create_hits/...433%20copy.jpg Legendary Ford, independant [Caddy 16 concept even] Desinger, Buck Mook http://www.nthimage.com/create_hits/...378%20copy.jpg GT engineer, GTX engineer/designer etc. Kip Ewing (you may recognize him from the many Shows about the GT/GTX1) http://www.nthimage.com/create_hits/...410%20copy.jpg The man responsible for the 94 Mustang project... and other projects in the works ;) Ben Schwie. Ford Designer, Peter Horbury's GT GM Legendary designer Steve Pastiener's car How would I get access to, and drive these cars? http://www.nthimage.com/create_hits/...FR_plate_1.jpg http://www.nthimage.com/create_hits/...T_3%20copy.jpg http://www.nthimage.com/create_hits/...0_1%20copy.jpg http://www.nthimage.com/create_hits/...n_3%20copy.jpg How about some direct contact information? http://www.nthimage.com/create_hits/proof/2-road.jpg or some of the guys I know in the racing world? http://www.nthimage.com/create_hits/...6_3%20copy.jpg maybe perhaps this guy has had many stories to tell? http://www.nthimage.com/create_hits/...ars%20copy.jpg Are you still willing to call me out? or are you still just as much a coward to continue accusing me with absolutely ZERO evidence to back your case up. In the end, it doesn't matter who supports your view, as it is simply wrong. |
Hey nth, do you have the last picture of the garage in high res?
its pretty damn cool!!, is it a private garage or what? |
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pm me, and i'll see about sending something of nicer resolution to you. |
hmm I just wish Clarkson could keep his facts about American V8's straight
ie the "4.6 litre Mustang GT" that he raced against a horse (was actually the dismal 4.0 V6) in the last episode of top gear he refers to the C6 Corvette as having a 5.7 litre instead of a 6.0. meh oh well, he still puts on a great show |
All the facts you say that clarkson got wrong has to do with american cars right? Well to be honest, I couldnt care less what he says about "AMERICAN V8" cars, as they are what is wrong with cars today, they have ancient engines that weigh more than north america, their stiling is boring, the interior is worse than what you get in the 1:43 scale model of the same car, they run on leave springs and they do not posses a dictionary with the word "corner" in it! The original Ford GT40 was a piece of art, as well as beautiful to look at but since then it has only gone downhill I'm afraid. They also posses the art of getting the same power from an engine twice the size of anything from europe. I've been in an Ford GT and a saleen, I've driven a ford mustang and they dont even compare to their european counterparts that I've driven, including the enzo, f430, gallardo or even a m3 for that matter!That is why you get a place called Europe or "EUROPE LAND" as the americans like to call it, so you can buy an european car and stay the hell away from anything made in the states!
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Man guys its a TV SHOW it HAVE to be entertaining or it will be boring as any other automotive shows around thats why TG has that much of success just compare it to the "honest judging" 5Gear.
Its the wacky comments that Clarkson spit out and twist facts sometimes that are the essence of the show's success.. the way he tell you that that car a total crap but its the one you should buy that all makes it the show it is. You dont listen to anyone while buying the car but yourself and if you do than its too bad cause any of journalists are biased on certain brand or country of manufacture. Journalists try hard not to show you they are biased on some car but that is EXACTLY what Clarkson do he will argue and argue and argue wich means he does it opposite way than others ;) |
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First.. the m3 engine is about 100 lbs heavier then that corvette 6L. Push rods are generally lighter engines then dohc engines. And the corvette engine puts out more bhp. ITs actually a common swap to put an ls1 in a m3. In fact that corvette itself is lighter then almost anything bmw makes. The corvette set a blazing nurburing run faster then almost anything made in europe. Its quite telling that your arguing american cars lack by comparing a 70k corvette to a 500k enzo. The corvette is certainly not the best car in the world, but youd be hard pressed to find a better performance per dollar. |
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Where's brembo :P |
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As for the interior I get the impression you havent driven one or you are exaggerating. The corvette is certainly not the crowning achievement in interior but it is leaps and bounds above the fiat. It doesn't fall apart, it doesnt squeak, it doesnt rattle. The parts you actually touch are good quality, the seats are comfortable. The dash isn't the best material admitedly.. But one could say the same thing about recent bmws. Is it all that important that the dash is soft touch as opposed to say, driving dynamics? Quote:
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So you're South African then hey? BTW - Call bullshit on your "drivign experiences" as you seem to be highlighting the incorrect features. From my recolleciton, the Enzo interior is actually not that much to write home about... neither is the M3. BTW - why would you be comparing a Mustang to anything European? It's a cheap sporty car - that brings up the question, what car were you comparing it to? And - also, what area are from in RSA? That makes a huge difference, and your background - and your wealth and station - there is no doubt certain groups within ZA have certain flawed views and these are very easy to brign out into the open. |
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He is very good at panderign to local animosoties to drive his mediocre humour home. I often wonder how much of a "great guy" he really is behind the scenes, because most of the time he just comes across as a prick with a car show ;) |
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It's all about entertainment, and yes, JC does exagerate, and most of the time he doesn't focus on the technical aspects of a car, but rather what feeling it gives you. And I quite like that.
So Jezza is the man. |
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The best I've got in my garage is a porsche...hardly something to write home about. And consider me finished with this topic, because we all know that neither those that love american cars, nor those that love their european cars will ever change their opinion so this arguement is rather pointless... |
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What Porsche do you have again? |
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By your standards, I may not have a camera, have seen a vector; let alone gone to 147 mph in one, not driven 2 ford GT's, or a Shelby GT500, or Cobra, or NSX, or STi, or etc. etc. etc. since I must get my photos and video from other people, and be a "Donnie" type character, or Krazy Hawaiian even :roll: Quote:
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This is NOT a case of that. This is a case of you accusing me of lying, and making up the stories which I have presented here. Point me one single location where I have not brought credible information. Keep watching, and you'll see me end up being right, just like I have been the last 3 years. I am a conduit in which this story gets told on a larger level then simply person to person. Opinions are far different from facts, you have attempted to inject a fog into the casual reader's mind to the difference between the two. You have failed miserably at trying to discredit these posts. Quote:
Here, I'll give you an example so your seemingly puny brain can comprehend. Opinion Jeremy Clarkson must be an idiot. Fact Jeremy Clarkson unknowingly activated his credit-card sized pocket alarm system time and time again, even while driving. He then wanted a buy-back from Ford. Quote:
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Sameer is another story. I never said you were brainwashing me. I simply expect you to bring to the table any evidence that I was lying, or making up this story rather then simply accuse me of lying. Obviously, this is too much to ask from the likes of either of you. Quote:
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Ask everso, T-bird, graywolf, vansquish, garrets_turbo, blacktransws6, r2r... T-bird can even tell you the difference between even a year ago, and now as to how good my connections have become. Your argument failed before it started for these reasons -You have no reasonable claim to support your assertation of your defamation of my character - No evidence of past falsification of stories - No character evidence - No contradicting evidence - You simply skip right to the name calling, and libel. An obvious sign of somebody with no argument. Even the like's of Mattk knows that. Oh just for the record this is the internet so some things are not that easy to get across, but I have nothing personal against you....[/quote] |
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Isnt the Point of Top Gear Average guys driving super cars and writing talking about there opinions..
If clarkson is a crap driver and is able to hold a race car driver in a lambo while driving a Evo and his an average guy ... that.. to me is impressive. His input about cars are real... i had a 1990 180sx.. The stuff used in the car is cheap early 1990's technology it was crap.. cloth that is used to carry potato's in the back of a horse carriage. Plastic all over.. but... regardless of that.. It was a fantastic car to drive. awsome handling nice sound.. and thats what clarkson does, gives a honest average Joe's opinion. Liking it or not is upto you .. But coming on here and bitching about the guy is completly stupid and very childish. what have we learnt: JC is a Average Joe. JC gives HIS own honest opinion JC is a average driver JC Has his tv show which non of us do. JC doesnt care what you and me think of him. Pok |
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Seriously tho, Is it so hard to believe that Jeremy is a pompus asshat who is extremely enjoyable to watch? Quote:
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I've backed mine up. |
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as I have long been saying, I am who I say I am, and know who I say I know ;)
this topic has run it's course |
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again, I'm not asking for agreeing with my opinions. Maybe something is lost in translation. But when i bring stories, they are the word of those who are the absolute authority one way or another. The vector posts i started making nearly a year ago... notice how much "trouble" that stirred up, yet it ends up being me who is right, and they all took note. Some people haven't... time and time again... C6 SS bottom end issues... you heard it here first (and possibly only here) V6 Solstice confirmed here, and only here... as a one off prototype, and not a production car, nor future production car 300 hp turbo solstice GXP in 2008... heard it here first Baja Truck.... heard it here first the list goes on and on with no falshoods, streatches, or outright lies. |
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