*** 2005 San Marino Grand Prix ***

[Toronto]

San Marino: Grand Prix FINAL
Pos.No.DriverTeamCarTyreDetails
1 15 Alonso Renault R25M62 LAPS; 2 STOPS
2 1 M Schumacher Ferrari F2005B2 STOPS
3 3 Button B.A.R007M2 STOPS
4 10 Wurz McLarenMP4-20M2 STOPS
5 4Sato B.A.R007M2 STOPS
6 11Villeneuve Sauber C24M2 STOPS
7 16 Trulli Toyota TF105M2 STOPS
8 17 R Schumacher Toyota TF105M2 STOPS
9 8 Heidfeld Williams FW27M2 STOPS
10 7 Webber Williams FW27M2 STOPS
11 15 LiuzziRed BullRB1M2 STOPS
12 12 Massa Sauber C24M2 STOPS
13 14 Coulthard Red Bull RB1M2 STOPS
14 19 Karthikeyan Jordan EJ15B2 STOPS
15 18 Monteiro Jordan EJ15B4 STOPS
16 20 Albers Minardi PS05BOUT (Lap 23 - Mechanical)
17 2 Barrichello Ferrari F2005BOUT (Lap 18 - Electrical)
18 9 Raikkonen McLaren MP4-20MOUT (Lap 8 - Mechanical)
19 21 Friesacher Minardi PS05BOUT (Lap 8 - Mechanical)
20 6 Fisichella Renault R25MOUT (Lap 5 - Suspension/Crash)

[saadie]

im watching the race right now ...
WTF hapenned to raikonen ??? :? :?

[stradale]

Brilliant race!! :D Schumi is back! Great job by Alonso as well.

Raikkonen had a problem with his driveshaft, BTW.

[Ghostbat]

Brilliant race!! :D Schumi is back! Great job by Alonso as well.

Raikkonen had a problem with his driveshaft, BTW.

Well the last 15 laps were amazing but the rest was not that brilliant IMO. Feel so sorry for poor Kimi once again..

[saadie]

the race just finished ... was an awsome race .....
in this race alonso>schumi :mrgreen: .. i loved the he kept him behind himself ... 8) 8) .

they should change the Tyres and qualification rule to what it was in 2004 .... and there should be new engines in every race ... :roll:

[Max Power]

most exciting race this whole year, but fucking mistake by MS in qualy cost him huge.....dammit that was an awesome race

[saadie]

they said something like the wanted to save barichello's the engine fer the next GP .. lol thats absolutly wrong .. :?

btw .. i loved what JV did in the begenning and how he cracked webber ... hes finally showing tht hes comming abck 8) 8) 8)

[twboy1999]

man
that was one of the most exciting race

first part was boring.. after the first pit stop... shucmacher was on a rampage...
he was so freaking fast.. he was down over 20 sec behind alonso.. and caught up to him

i wish he pass alonso. but oh well

this really show that f1 acerodynamic is really influence by the car infront of them

and renault's traction off the corners are just amazing

[Joel]

Well I would just like to say that ITV's F1 coverage fucking sucks!!! Three laps to go with Schumi all over the back of Alonso and they cut to a 3 minute commercial break!!!!!!!!!!!!FFS :fist: :twisted:
:slap:
:2gunfire:

useless cunts

[komotar]

The second part of the race was awesome. Too bad for Kimi and Fisichella.

This season has been perfect so far. Every race had something interesting to offer.

I hope things continue to be this good.

[saadie]

@twboy yeah its called slip stream ... it works by the vortexe's created by the rear wing and the heat comming from the engine tht makes the area in the stream thin which had less drag and woom the car on yer back in way in front of yea ..... :mrgreen:

btw .. can anyone explain how the ferrari came out of nowhere and started doing 1:22 when th others were at 1:24 :| thats fecking amazing ... :|

[|Nuno|]

:shock: Mama mia!!! My hands are still shaking!

What an amazing race by Michael!! :shock: :D

Seems like Ferrari is back on track. :mrgreen:

Best race so far this year. Also, very good race by Alonso, Villenueve and Wurz. Shame about Kimi and Rubens tough...

Williams was quite disappointing as well...


And funny how the portuguese commentators kept saying that Michael was low on fuel after he started putting those uber fast laps, and yet he pitted later than Alonso and Button... :mrgreen:

[Max Power]

surprisingly shumi didn't try to hit alonso to try and pass him, he lost more points had he chosen the do or die strategy....perhaps shumi is getting soft :wink:

[|Nuno|]

FASTEST LAPS:

Pos No Driver Team Lap Average Speed Time


1:: 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 48 216.946 1:21.858

2:: 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 22 214.987 1:22.604

3:: 10 Alexander Wurz McLaren-Mercedes 24 213.902 1:23.023

4:: 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 22 213.619 1:23.133

5:: 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 8 213.201 1:23.296

6:: 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 23 213.016 1:23.368

7:: 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi Red Bull Racing 46 212.710 1:23.488

8:: 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 37 212.420 1:23.602

9:: 8 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW 54 211.623 1:23.917

10:: 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 45 211.371 1:24.017

11:: 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 44 211.358 1:24.022

12:: 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 20 211.177 1:24.094

13:: 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 19 210.836 1:24.230

14:: 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 17 210.364 1:24.419

15:: 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 13 210.325 1:24.435

16:: 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 22 209.813 1:24.641

17:: 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 19 209.620 1:24.719

18:: 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 4 207.305 1:25.665

19:: 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 18 203.143 1:27.420

20:: 20 Patrick Friesacher Minardi-Cosworth 5 201.041 1:28.334

[jon_s]

Well I would just like to say that ITV's F1 coverage fucking sucks!!! Three laps to go with Schumi all over the back of Alonso and they cut to a 3 minute commercial break!!!!!!!!!!!!FFS :fist: :twisted:
:slap:
:2gunfire:

useless cunts

I absolutely ageee! I was fucking livid when the advers went on. I think we should all send an email about that. They spoilt the best battle in F1 for the last 3 years. What useless idiot decided to do that.

Go here to express your opinion on the advert placement:
http://www.itv-f1.com/ContactUs.aspx

Appart from that, fantastic race! Ferrari showed their typical genius when Shumi jumped all those places. Alonso worked hard though, and deserved that win 100%. So much for Shumi trying to psych him out pre race.

Button was caught sleeping which was a shame, but certainly an improvement. Hope the season continues to be as exciting. Although, going on Ferrari's performance, they could dominate again!

[nejcdolinsek]

My god that was BY FAR the best race of the past I-don't-know-how-many years!

All I can say is hats off to Alonso for keeping Schumi at bay, and a legendary drive from Michael. MY GOD HE WENT FAST :shock:

It looks like FERRARI IS BACK :D

[Pimp Racer]

BAR Honda in 3rd and 5th place! Yes! :mrgreen:

[saadie]

ohh ...so yer standing between the window and th TV ... waiting for the commercial .. lol

btw now we know who can show us the race LIVE .... :mrgreen: ..
you know u can start tht webcam thingy on a page and we can see it LIVE lol :mrgreen:

[sikx5]

That was a great race, schmi coming from 13th to 2nd!! Quality stuff!!

The car has blistering pace, he was awesome on the brakes, but the renault just had too much torque out of the corners and always got that car length between them in the straights. Great battles there for sure...cant wait till the next one.

:P :P

[twboy1999]

sorry i didnt explain myself more clearly
i was referring to the dirty air not the slipstreem

schumi was over 1 sec a lap faster.. yet he couldnt pass him.. yes alonso mention he break harder for his own protection.. but this yr's higher nose also doesnt help either

[jenkF1]

ITVs coverage did piss me off, but after a boring start that final showdown between Schuey and Alonso was legendary. Alonso proved today that he is a racer. Before then all his wins have been pretty easy. Schumacher proved a point today and I was so gutted he didnt get past Alonso. It was like the first time since 2001 I was chearing on Schumacher!

ITV Highlights are essential to watch tonight even if it means feeling shit for work!

[phantomfocus]

The coverage of the race just ended here in the states. All I can say is WOW! That is how grand prix racing should be, full of tension up to the last moment. I have to hand to Schumi, what a brilliant drive even though he did not come thru with the win. After Kimi fell out, I thought the race had been handed to Alonso(Here we go again). But after the cars began to pit Michael's pace was outrageous! He was absolutly fyling. His pass on Button might have one of the most amazing things I have ever seen. Button got caught sleeping, and shumi nailed it! But Alonso did do a fine job of holding him off to pick up his third in a row.

If Schumi can hold his errors in qualifying, I think were in for a totally different rest of the season! :)

[noosee]

Very good rece.
2 bad Schumacher didn't win. But 2nd from 13th position is very good. :D

[5vz-fe]

^LOL.......
Great race overall, but it's kind of werid to see Ferrari suffer reliabilities now. Mclaren is not the place to be, Kimi has the speed and consistancy, but Mclaren time after time fail to provide him with a car reliable enough to finish the race.

[gucom]

up untill now, during htis season, i was always glad the Ferrari's weren't fast and reliable enough...but today i really wanted schumi to win, he deserved to (but then again so did alonso). Brilliant race :D

[|Nuno|]

^^

Ah, the Foster's chicks... Gotta love 'em... :mrgreen:


Seems like Jenson is in trouble. From grandprix.com:

As night was falling in Imola word went around the F1 paddock that there might be a problem with the BAR-Honda of Jenson Button. The car remains in the scrutineering area at the moment.

The "word" is that the car was too light...


On a side note, anyone knows of a site that has a full lap chart? I had a link for one but lost it...

[|Nuno|]

I heard on TV that Button's problem was related with the petrol used...

"According to Austria's ORF channel his car was found to be too light after the race."

I guess we'll have to wait and see...

[ae86_16v]

Excellent race. Michael was just so freaking fast. The first 20 laps or so, I thought that there was no way anyone could even compete with Alonso especially since Michael was so far behind.

But man, he was fast. I wanted him to pass Alonso too, but just not enough laps to pull it off I guess.

Best race of the season! Farrari is BACK!!!

About the coverage: Man, and I thought CBS did a bad job when they went to commerical with 8 laps to go. I was saying you gotta be kidding right? I guess ITV was worst in that sense.

Overall, CBS did a pretty good job commentating. They were explaining everything though, such as pitting, downforce, oversteer, understeer ---> I guess for the people that never watched it before.

Good job CBS. Look forward to the next race with you guys.

[e46drew]

here is a link to f1 .com, its the page to todays race

WOW the last ten laps, intense, one of the best races in a while

III in a row for Alonso, Shumi was on his ass

this is for you Nuno

http://www.formula1.com/race/circuitmap/735.html

[|Nuno|]

this is for you Nuno

http://www.formula1.com/race/circuitmap/735.html

Thanks, but that's not what I was looking for. :)

The link that I had contained ALL laps of all drivers. Quite neat, but I can't find the site anymore. :(



And it seems that Button's case is resolved:

confirmed after six hour wait
Sun Apr 24, 2005 09:16 PM BST

IMOLA, Italy, April 24 (Reuters) - Briton Jenson Button's third place in the San Marino Grand Prix was confirmed after a six hour wait on Sunday.

The BAR driver had long left the Imola circuit by the time Formula One race stewards gave his car the all-clear after summoning team representatives and weighing it both with and without fuel.

"Immediately following the end of the race the car was weighed in the configuration it had finished and was above the minimum weight limit," the stewards said in a statement issued by the governing FIA.

"It was subsequently drained of fuel and then re-weighed and found to be underweight.

"The stewards after hearing the explanation of the competitor's representatives and studying all the available documentation decided that the matter requires no further action."

Button's podium was BAR's first of the season after three races without points.

[ZfrkS62]

holy crap! that race was probably the most exciting race yet :shock: Ferrari once again pulled the pitstop magik and got Schumi right on Alonso's ass. Had that 1st stop been just a half second shorter, he might have come out in front of Alonso. But then again, we might not have had quite as exciting final battle :D

What the hell was going on with Massa? Twice he got into Coulthard. The first time he loses his wing, the second time he just pushes him out of the way. And what happens to him? NOTHING!! Why is Ralf being scrutinized again? Whatever it was, it didn't get televised or mentioned, so it couldn't have been too big :?

[szumszer]

alonso had a super race and is having a very good season; I have to give him credit for not cracking under pressure from charging schumi hanging on his back and have to say that it is schumi who was cautious as he settled for second, wasn't he supposed to drive like he had nothing to loose; I would say alonso was driving like that instead as he held on to the first place and did not give up his position, he was not cautions in his defense nor allow schumi to get an easy win ... alonso's drive in the last 15 laps was flawless, he deserved to win this one today ... on the other hand schumi would have won the race outright had he not made that mistake in qualifying ... but he is back, so it should be interesting to see how alonso does next time ... this was a great race, probably the best this year, so far

[ZfrkS62]

^ I thought for sure Schumi would force a mistake from the Spaniard, which he did, just not a big enough one to exploit. Looks like Renault is substantiating the worries they were illiciting at the beginning of last year :D

[dingo]

WHAT A RACE!!!! Thats what us fans want more of, I was literally on the edge of my seat (or couch :P ) for the first time in a long time watching F1 :D I was hoping MS could get past for the win but a 2nd is good for him right now, and Alonso just keeps proving how good he really is :D
Again Webber was in a good position but somehow couldn't hold it and finished outside the points :(
This gives me hope for another good race in Barcelona :D

[RAMMIUS]

Schumi made that race beautiful , and he couldn`t win because you cannot take over in Imola , but man what a race !!!!
Schumi is the mannnnnnnnn !!!!!!!!

[jon_s]

and he couldn`t win because you cannot take over in Imola

I don't think the cars that were in front of him would agree. Button certainly would not. Lets be fair, Alonso did a fine job.