1995 Corvette ZR-1 best vette ... ever?

[RC45]

Originally Posted by Nocturn But the two cars were similiar I'm not talking about the LS6 since I havn't driven one of those, but I drove an SS, and Z28, 02/97 and the LT1 felt like it pulled harder. Both Camaros, both standards. I did dive a base model Vette and it felt a bit better but not by much (auto though).

So you are comparing a 1997 LT1 SS and a 1998 LS1 Z28? Or a 97 Z28 vs a 98 SS?

Both auto or M6?

Still - as I say - if you say so...

[Nocturn]

a 97 Z with a 02 SS, both M6.

[5.7 V10]

Not i my opinion, i say the 1963 Chevrolet Corvette Z06.

[RC45]

Well - big brakes and an endurance tank make the car a "factpory racer" - but I have yet to develop and real "love" for the mid-year Vettes shape... I like em... just not love em..

I really like the early C3's - my favourite being the '69 - maybe one day the mid-years will grow on me...

[nthfinity]

ive driven a M6 2000 camero Z28, and a 96 M6 T/A .... the LS1 definately felt faster, and more broad a torque curve... both chassis have similar wights, and weight ratios. but i guess thats just my opinoin lol. ill take the LS1 over the LT1 any day.

i agree the C4 styling is a bit aged compared with the C5. the ZR-1 handling charactaristics can be modified to go from extream to z06- like, but there is just no comparing the motors by perfromance numbers alone. just the price tag :shock: :roll:

[RC45]

Originally Posted by Nocturn a 97 Z with a 02 SS, both M6.

And the 97 is completely stock? You drove them back to back or 5 years apart?

These all make a difference on how your "seat of the pants meter" perceives the ride.

1997 Z28
LT1 V8
10.5:1
5.7l
305 @ 5200
335 @ 4000
M6
3.42:1
3310lbs

2002 SS
LS1 V8
10.1:1
5.7l
310 @ 5200
340 @ 4000
M6
3.42:1
3390lbs

But, just by numbers - I'll give you that much to say they are close enough to cause a "biased" person to come to the incorrect conclusion...

[nthfinity]

5,670 cc
325 @ 5200 RPM
350 @ 4000 RPM
6000 RPM

2002 camero SS vs your nubmers are the Z28 of the same year

also note, that its been said that the LS1 was pushing close to 350hp at the crank....

[RC45]

Originally Posted by nthfinity 5,670 cc 325 @ 5200 RPM 350 @ 4000 RPM 6000 RPM 2002 camero SS vs your nubmers are the Z28 of the same year also note, that its been said that the LS1 was pushing close to 350hp at the crank....

My bad... I have found 3 online sources incorrectly listing the 2002 SS specs..

BUt where are you getting the "recorded" 350 figure form?

[nthfinity]

i think it was a Chevy tuner magazine back when they got ahold of it in 2002... i dont own the magazine, but my roommate who is the local GM enthusiast has said that to me. i know its trap times are quite segnificantly faster then the Z28's with only 15 more hp, and 10 more ft. lbs. i suppose it could be due to a better torque curve, but i dont know.

its more heresay at this point. ive never been in an SS... im just able to compare the 'normal' v8's

[Nocturn]

Its pretty common knowledge on LS1 forums that the LS1 in the fbody is pretty much the exact same as it is in the vette, people have had their SS's hit from 300-320 RWHP on stock components. I imagine it looses some HP to the non dual exhaust on the fbody, but other than that I think its pretty much the exact same.

The actual cars were different, the SS had the SLP centermount cat back exhaust/ram air intake, and the Z28 had cold air induction and borla cat back.

Granted the SS feels fast, but it just didn't put me in the seats like the Z28 did.

[RC45]

Originally Posted by Nocturn Its pretty common knowledge on LS1 forums that the LS1 in the fbody is pretty much the exact same as it is in the vette, people have had their SS's hit from 300-320 RWHP on stock components. I imagine it looses some HP to the non dual exhaust on the fbody, but other than that I think its pretty much the exact same. The actual cars were different, the SS had the SLP centermount cat back exhaust/ram air intake, and the Z28 had cold air induction and borla cat back. Granted the SS feels fast, but it just didn't put me in the seats like the Z28 did.

Come back when you have a stock vs stock comparison ...

Now we find out that the cars had intakes and exhausts etc - who knows what the state of tuning on either car was

[nthfinity]

I imagine it looses some HP to the non dual exhaust on the fbody

ive never seen a single exhaust on a V8 Fbody......? let alone on any Corvette

[Nocturn]

Well the fbody's exhaust merges into a single pipe after the manifolds, then splits at the muffler.

Well the 02 was a dealer, and the 97 was my brothers car. 02 had about 700 miles on it, with the SLP parts. Ram air hood and cat back, where the 97 had what we put on it. Seems a reasonable comparison to me, the 97 may have had a bit more off the line, but the 02 would of had more come higher speeds with the RA set-up.

[RC45]

If you say so..

But head over to LS1Tech and start telling all those LS1 disciples that an LT1 is "the SB"

[nthfinity]

Well the fbody's exhaust merges into a single pipe after the manifolds, then splits at the muffler

i am not familiar with this..... um....

anyway, RC45.... is it just me, or is this kinda amusing ?

If you say so..