*** 2005 German Grand Prix ***

[|Nuno|]

FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! :x :x

I can't believe this! Alonso is one lucky mofo... Now it's over, both Champioships for Renault... And I that can't stand that damn thing he does with his fingers. Oh well...


And damn, the soft Bridgestones are really crap on a race distance... On the other hand, the harder compound is worthless on Qualifying... :bah: Ah, and by the way, Michael said on RTL that he had a fuel delivery problem and that the engine sputtered for a moment and that's why Fisi went past.
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Final Results:


Pos No Driver Team Laps Time/Retired Grid Points


1 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 67 1:26:28.599 3 10

2 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 67 +22.5 secs 19 8

3 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 67 +24.4 secs 2 6

4 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 67 +50.5 secs 4 5

5 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 67 +51.6 secs 5 4

6 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 67 +52.2 secs 12 3

7 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 67 +52.7 secs 11 2

8 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 67 +56.5 secs 13 1

9 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 67 +69.8 secs 10

10 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 66 +1 Lap 15

11 8 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW 66 +1 Lap 7

12 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 66 +1 Lap 8

13 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 65 +2 Laps 16

14 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 64 +3 Laps 9

15 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 64 +3 Laps 14

16 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 64 +3 Laps 20

17 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 64 +3 Laps 18

18 20 Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 63 +4 Laps 17

Ret 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 55 +12 Laps 6

Ret 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 35 Hydraulics
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Fastest Laps:



Pos No Driver Team Lap Time Of Day Average Speed Time

1 9 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes 24 1439 219.924 1:14.873

2 5 Fernando Alonso Renault 21 14:30:00 218.866 1:15.235

3 3 Jenson Button BAR-Honda 19 14:27:42 217.111 1:15.843

4 10 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 54 15:13:07 217.011 1:15.878

5 6 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 21 14:30:28 216.977 1:15.890

6 17 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 23 1405 216.455 1:16.073

7 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 18 14:26:23 216.381 1:16.099

8 14 David Coulthard Red Bull Racing 18 14:26:33 216.000 1:16.233

9 15 Christian Klien Red Bull Racing 45 15:02:02 215.992 1:16.236

10 12 Felipe Massa Sauber-Petronas 45 15:01:52 215.845 1:16.288

11 16 Jarno Trulli Toyota 45 15:02:30 215.320 1:16.474

12 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 47 15:04:41 215.168 1:16.528

13 8 Nick Heidfeld Williams-BMW 10 14:16:19 214.946 1:16.607

14 4 Takuma Sato BAR-Honda 27 14:38:52 214.615 1:16.725

15 7 Mark Webber Williams-BMW 46 15:17:11 214.397 1:16.803

16 11 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-Petronas 26 14:38:09 213.511 1:17.122

17 18 Tiago Monteiro Jordan-Toyota 12 14:19:23 210.821 1:18.106

18 19 Narain Karthikeyan Jordan-Toyota 7 14:12:49 210.535 1:18.212

19 21 Christijan Albers Minardi-Cosworth 11 14:18:02 209.963 1:18.425

20 20 Robert Doornbos Minardi-Cosworth 44 15:04:00 208.369 1:19.025

[Ghostbat]

And I that can't stand that damn thing he does with his fingers. Oh well...

That has ticked me off too. Especially since he only wins (well almost) because Mclaren fucks up..

[gtx28]

I really dont like montoya but he raced well, starting at 20th and ending up in second he raced very well. WTF happened to kimi he was in first I jumped up to use the restroom and then hes gone????

This is the first f1 race ive had the pleasure of watchin in almost a year, this is the first weekend ive had off from work in ages. So someone fill me in what happened to schumi? Is it his car like the announcers are speculating or is he not the driver he was last season??

[sameerrao]

Exciting race! Great drives by JPM, Michael and Kimi.

Kimi would have easily walked the race if his car had lasted - he had a good speed advantage over Alonso. JPM drove from the back of the field to second. Excellent race pace. I saw that he made up about 3 spots within 200 metres from the start and made a bunch more after the first corner incident. Thereafter he drove fast and intelligently to finish up on the podium.

Michael was suffering from fading tires - his front left and right rear were in bad shape half-way thru the race. He still drove brilliant to keep Button and Fisi behind for several laps despite his problems.

Toyota seems to have lost its shine - its going backwards. Williams showed a brief glimmer of hope in qualifying but it all turned to naught.

Mclaren is the best car in the field if it can reach the end. But Raikkonen hasnt had a troublefree race for ages.

As Nuno pointed out, it really looks like Alonso can walk this championship - 36 points is too much to recover especially when McLaren reliability is suspect.

[kksh]

FUCK!!!!!!

Again another retirement. Norbert Haug was saying that his engines produce more power than even last year. I don't want more power. Just reliability. Give kimi an engine with 30 hp less and he'll still get pole and still win every race.

Gosh........ Alonso doesn't deserve the Title. It's the renaults that deserve it for not breaking down.

Nextweekend will be a sad race for me.

5vz-fe, talk of the devil eh?

[5vz-fe]

lol...didn't take much to predict this....
2 race in a row Kimi's engine broke @ pratice....this week it didn't. so it gotta break at race.

Mclaren never had a reliable engine.................Norbert Haug clearly sux at his job.

[SFDMALEX]

Who I cant stand the most is that dick Alonso. I like Renault, great team, great car, but I cant stand Alonso. That shit with his fingers, the shit talking from the little bastard. He's trying to put on a good boy image while being a tottal jackass. Rubino is the good boy of F1...Alonso is just a little prick who when talks, talks shit.

What has Alonso done thats so impressive?
The only reason he wins is because of others peoples mis fortunes, and when he did get pushed by Micheal he drove as defencive as one can.

Dick dick dick.

What I want to see is Micheal battle with Kimi just before the retirment. Because Kimi looks like a Champ, doesnt talk shit and does his job, and has a hot girlfriend even though a midget himself

[5vz-fe]

^^ I agree.....

Example:

"I think for the coming races we need to improve our package if we are to beat them because they are a bit quicker than us," he said. "But the race is 70 laps, not 30, and you don't get any prizes for being fastest at half-distance. We finish the races, and they don't always."

http://f1.racing-live.com/f1/en/head...25021657.shtml

Even tho this is a true fact, it is not something that he should say to the public.

Hockenheim : fastest laps in the race
1. Kimi Raikkonen - McLaren Mercedes - 1'14.873 - lap 24
2. Fernando Alonso - Renault - 1'15.235 - lap 21

and I don't think .36 second is considered a bit quicker.

[SFDMALEX]

Let him talk shit, even if Kimi blows up again we still know who the real champ is.

[Max Power]

Schumi?...

has Barrichello given up...he's been out of the points and compared to Michael is a lot slower, not just at hockenheim...after Monaco I figure he got fed up and quit racing...

[5vz-fe]

Originally Posted by Ronin005 ok its been a day since the race and well now i can talk. im not asking for death only a broken leg for alonso and i will be happy once again. as many have said he does not deserve the title one bit and is a plain and simple ass. though, to be honest i wouldnt mind if he won the title and then had the badluck that Ferrari is having this year to see how he would handle it. notice how the Ferrari boys havent really made many excuses, al lthey say is they will continue to test. ahh i cant talk about it, i only get more and more aggrivated and frustrated. well we can all stop blaming MB for the engine trouble. it wasnt the fact THIS TIME. http://www.f1racing.net/en/news.php?newsID=93770

haha, still can't prove if Kimi will finish the race with out that problem tho lol. As for alonso, I just hated that guy............I bet he think he's better than everyone and that kimi/schumi is fast is becoz of his car.

[SFDMALEX]

Alonso is a grade A asshole. I remeber him making a comment that he knows a lot of people in Karting that could be great in F1....WTF??? All Karting is good for is learning how to race. They are way to light to really teach how to drive a car on a limit...And he's talking about Karting guys in F1.

[kksh]

Totally agree with you guys.

I hate alonso to his guts. He's talking trash like he's the best etc. The fuck's just plain fucking lucky. He's got no pace of Kimi. He can follow JPM but everytime he tries to do that to Kimi, he gets left for dead.

He's trying to make himself look good by saying how much better Mclaren is etc. He still doesn't remember how much of a beating he got when kimi's engine didn't blow or he isn't handicapped with a 10 place gridslot penality.

[Toronto]

your team builds a car that lasts the whole race, and an engine that last 2....
just cause others can't doesn't mean your lucky, it means you have a better team and a better car (not a faster car)

[SFDMALEX]

Originally Posted by Toronto your team builds a car that lasts the whole race, and an engine that last 2.... just cause others can't doesn't mean your lucky, it means you have a better team and a better car (not a faster car)

He's still a dick though Renault is a great team, but Alonso is still a big great dick.