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Old 06-23-2004, 05:30 AM   #16
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Love those books to... I've heard that no follow up after The teeth of the tiger is planned. Does anyone know if that's the truth?
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Old 06-23-2004, 05:50 AM   #17
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Well,

we could have known: resistance is futile .....
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Old 06-23-2004, 07:18 AM   #18
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She used to be on "boston public"right? my sisters loved that series, dont ask me why...anyway as much as i like to see republicans brought down, this seems to me as if shes trying to take revenge or something, i htink she's kinda making htis up
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Old 06-23-2004, 08:12 AM   #19
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ah well it could be a publicity stunt. Not the divorce ( maybe it is amicable) but the sex allegations. He gets more news coverage, and producers of TV shows/movies are reminded of her existance...
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Old 06-23-2004, 12:03 PM   #20
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she is rely rely hot.

and he's a tool, lol

dw guys i got the tom clancey joke
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Old 06-23-2004, 12:26 PM   #21
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ah well it could be a publicity stunt. Not the divorce ( maybe it is amicable) but the sex allegations. He gets more news coverage, and producers of TV shows/movies are reminded of her existance...
Actually they both blocked release of the divorce stuff and are defending each other now. It was released because the news media appealed the judge to release it for its effect on the guys campaign.
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Old 06-23-2004, 12:31 PM   #22
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if what he did was true, how the fuck does he think he can do well in office? from that picture they took of him, he looks like a shithead.
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Old 06-23-2004, 07:00 PM   #23
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Shitheads do pretty good in office
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Old 06-23-2004, 07:08 PM   #24
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Yarrrrrrrrrr
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Old 06-23-2004, 07:22 PM   #25
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if what he did was true, how the fuck does he think he can do well in office? from that picture they took of him, he looks like a shithead.
Perhaps you should talk to Clinton about that one.
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Old 06-23-2004, 07:25 PM   #26
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Did clinton force anyone to have sex at a bar with other people watching? This guy is a asshole. Clinton just got sex from asking. There is a clear difference. and he never videotapped it.
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Old 06-23-2004, 07:44 PM   #27
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Did clinton force anyone to have sex at a bar with other people watching? This guy is a asshole. Clinton just got sex from asking. There is a clear difference. and he never videotapped it.
If you read clearly mr. Ryan didn't make his wife do it.. he got mad at her for not. She even said he never hit her..
and from the way it sounds it never actually happened(she shot him down each time).

Mr. Clinton was put on trial for sexual harassment.. Whipping it out to someone with no provocation.. and of course as you said getting sex sleeping around on his wife.
Both are still legally ok(other then clintons sexual harassment suit which never stuck(hey but mr. ryan hasnt lost a trial either), but he perjured himself during and was let loose despite the federal offense), but he did do something majorly morally wrong.. Cheating on your wife.. Trying to get your wife to perform sex in public.. Both seem immoral enough to me.

So lets see.. both did something immoral..
Clinton though was also put on trial for actually breaking the law, and found guilty of breaking another law.. While mr. ryan has not broken a law in this case...

Very similar too me.. I sure wouldn't vote for either one of them.
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Old 06-24-2004, 07:29 AM   #28
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I suggest you keep your political BS in the forum where it belongs.
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Old 06-24-2004, 12:17 PM   #29
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I suggest you keep your political BS in the forum where it belongs.
I'm not really trying to present it as political. MY appologies if it came off that way.

Someone said Mr. Ryan wouldnt make a good rep because of this incident. I was trying to show precedent. How you feel about clinton is your business, but there is a parallel that would either validate or regulate Mr. Ryan depending on which side of the ken star thing you were on. Is his personal life important, that is the question you have to ask yourself.
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Old 06-25-2004, 06:04 AM   #30
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There is a difference between free will and pressure/force....

As long as nobody of us are even remotely certain of what happened, it's hard to pass fair judgement. If it wasn't forcefull, I give rats ass about it.
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