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Old 12-13-2006, 05:19 PM   #16
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Have you ever driven one? I haven't either, but I personally know of about 10 people who have, and they all say the same thing: that's it's not just the speed that you are left with, but the way that the car does what it does and how it seemingly defies what you think is possible. They also say that its brakes will snap your neck, that it grips like glue and will corner like a beast. It's also 100% confidence inspiring, totally comfortable inside and is basically the shit.

My PERSONAL opinion is that the car is wonderful in what it can do, and I respect it for that, but it also doesn't inspire me to want to own one.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:31 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by TeflonTron
Have you ever driven one? I haven't either, but I personally know of about 10 people who have, and they all say the same thing: that's it's not just the speed that you are left with, but the way that the car does what it does and how it seemingly defies what you think is possible. They also say that its brakes will snap your neck, that it grips like glue and will corner like a beast. It's also 100% confidence inspiring, totally comfortable inside and is basically the shit.
Exactly.. all these are only possible because the car has computer systems to keep accelleration, braking and turning at a level than does not exceed the levels of tyre adhesion.

It's the most basic of concepts that any competant driver knows and understands.

Any modern ABS car will produce "neck snapping braking" - many cars will leave you with seat belt bruises they stop so hard.

Any high HP car with traction control and assisted mechanisms produces spleen squashing acceleration.

And any big tyre and active handling equiped car can induce awe inspiring turning forces - there is nothing unique about this.

All that they designers did was ask "Can we produce some computers and driver aids to support more input power and keep the mayhem in control?"

And they did.

The same systems and software will be sold to other car makers who will produce a Veyron performing car without the glitz and glamour and do so for $200,000
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:42 PM   #18
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The Veyron is really no no different to a Skyline or an Evo in most regards. An Evo should not be able to corner like it can, but it has so much electrical wizardry that it can. The same holds true with the Skyline.

I know that a lot of modern cars can stop on a dime, but I think that they Veyron is in a class of its own, above even the McLaren Mercedes SLR.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:43 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by TeflonTron
Have you ever driven one? I haven't either, but I personally know of about 10 people who have, and they all say the same thing: that's it's not just the speed that you are left with, but the way that the car does what it does and how it seemingly defies what you think is possible. They also say that its brakes will snap your neck, that it grips like glue and will corner like a beast. It's also 100% confidence inspiring, totally comfortable inside and is basically the shit.

My PERSONAL opinion is that the car is wonderful in what it can do, and I respect it for that, but it also doesn't inspire me to want to own one.
I personally know one owner, and have personally met 6 more that I can't be arsed thier names, as I only met them once so far LOL. I wonder if i met Tom Celini...

that said, it means nothing.

the car is spectacular in terms of performance, and style, and computational output I love it. RC is just out of his mind, and hates it because everso loves it

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Old 12-13-2006, 06:13 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by RC45
Originally Posted by TeflonTron
Have you ever driven one? I haven't either, but I personally know of about 10 people who have, and they all say the same thing: that's it's not just the speed that you are left with, but the way that the car does what it does and how it seemingly defies what you think is possible. They also say that its brakes will snap your neck, that it grips like glue and will corner like a beast. It's also 100% confidence inspiring, totally comfortable inside and is basically the shit.
Exactly.. all these are only possible because the car has computer systems to keep accelleration, braking and turning at a level than does not exceed the levels of tyre adhesion.

It's the most basic of concepts that any competant driver knows and understands.

Any modern ABS car will produce "neck snapping braking" - many cars will leave you with seat belt bruises they stop so hard.

Any high HP car with traction control and assisted mechanisms produces spleen squashing acceleration.

And any big tyre and active handling equiped car can induce awe inspiring turning forces - there is nothing unique about this.

All that they designers did was ask "Can we produce some computers and driver aids to support more input power and keep the mayhem in control?"

And they did.

The same systems and software will be sold to other car makers who will produce a Veyron performing car without the glitz and glamour and do so for $200,000
personlly i dont think you could drive a 1000hp car with full confidence without these driver aids,yes theres many 1000hp modified cars,supras,skylines and your friends very own vette,but i doubt he could take his vette round a track or on road and drive it 100% without any aids at all
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Old 12-13-2006, 06:16 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by gis
personlly i dont think you could drive a 1000hp car with full confidence without these driver aids,yes theres many 1000hp modified cars,supras,skylines and your friends very own vette,but i doubt he could take his vette round a track or on road and drive it 100% without any aids at all
Thats the point - the Veyron is simply a rolling PS2 - a very expensive rolling PS2
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Old 12-13-2006, 06:33 PM   #22
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but at least with there "rolling PS2" they wont simply die the second they decide to use its power,coz im sure if you werent concentrating 100% in a veyron the aids would make sure you could try again......were as im sure the second you have a lapse of concentration in the 1000hp vette your not gonna try it again,unless your lucky.

keep in mind the rolling PS2 costs as muc as it does is simply because everything thats the best for a car.this car has it,but having this power to accelerate probably as quick,maybe quicker then your friends vette,this veyron can cruise in comfort whilst you look at the best materials used to make the interior
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Old 12-13-2006, 06:38 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by gis
but at least with there "rolling PS2" they wont simply die the second they decide to use its power,coz im sure if you werent concentrating 100% in a veyron the aids would make sure you could try again......were as im sure the second you have a lapse of concentration in the 1000hp vette your not gonna try it again,unless your lucky.

keep in mind the rolling PS2 costs as muc as it does is simply because everything thats the best for a car.this car has it,but having this power to accelerate probably as quick,maybe quicker then your friends vette,this veyron can cruise in comfort whilst you look at the best materials used to make the interior
I am calling it a rolling PS2 because of its computer aids - just like playing GT4 with all aids on

Remember that the aids will be reducing the 1000hp net-effect on the wet track down to about 500hp levels.. so a 599 would probably out run the Veyron on the wet track any way

SO at the end of the say, the 1000hp computer aided Veyron is really no different to a 700hp non-T/C Supra
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Old 12-13-2006, 06:42 PM   #24
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ps2?
more like PS3

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Old 12-13-2006, 06:44 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by twboy1999
ps2?
more like PS3

haha
Thats true, think of the Veyron an AUdiTT-HD
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Old 12-13-2006, 06:47 PM   #26
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well if u bring a wet track into it......surely the veyron wins yet again over equally powered cars,or any RWD/FWD car as it has its aids and 4wd.yes its very expensive an even an impreza or evo would outrun a 1000hp supra or vette in the wet,but the veyron woudl just do it faster
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Old 12-13-2006, 06:52 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by gis
well if u bring a wet track into it......surely the veyron wins yet again over equally powered cars,or any RWD/FWD car as it has its aids and 4wd.yes its very expensive an even an impreza or evo would outrun a 1000hp supra or vette in the wet,but the veyron woudl just do it faster
So in other words, it is just a rolling drivers aid
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Old 12-13-2006, 06:59 PM   #28
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lol u have an answer for everything dont you?

i dont see how u cant respect the car for what it is
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:01 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by RC45
Remember that the aids will be reducing the 1000hp net-effect on the wet track down to about 500hp levels.. so a 599 would probably out run the Veyron on the wet track any way
Best post of this whole thread! :roll:
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:01 PM   #30
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Until you've seen one of these cars launch and disappear off into the distance you have no idea of the event they are... I was a sceptic until recently, but now I have huge respect for it.
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