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Old 06-21-2006, 02:32 PM   #1
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Introduction :
It started back in late 2004 with the introduction of the first all new Mustang in over 20 years, and immediate thoughts floating around in enthusiasts heads about what the next SVT Cobra might be. Roumors abound by its engine, its power, its displacement for two full years before we were told the realities about it. Now, just a few months away from consumer availability, we know the truth about this car.


Exterior:
The shape cannot be mistaken for anything else on the street, save another Mustang. But, a second glance shows this is no tuner body kitted pony car; but something much more sinister, with its more aggressive, and aerodynamically functional front facia, the aluminum hood, and the rear spoiler.

The whole car is so extremely solid, one might think this car is more atune to the stiffness of Keanu Reeves, rather then the loose and often face-lifted whacko-Jacko.... In fact, this might actually be a stolen German chassis! It is that solid.


Interior :
When comparing the interior against the Mustang GT, these two cars couldn't be more different then everso, and RC45. The 05+ GT holds a cirtain nastalgia about its design; yet is not as accute as what might be expected of a modern car. For example, the dials are easy to read on the new Cobra.

The color schemes seem to work well, I particularly like the red on black style, with the visible red stitching giving a higher quality feel. The seats are compfortable, and work much better in keeping your ass in place then the GT does.

The rear seats are just as compfortable as the front; but when standing at 6'2", I have a slight issue with being compfortable for a long haul.


How does it drive?
How do you think? Raw speed isn't that much further ahead of the 03/04 SVT Cobras, but usable power is even higher, thanks to the FGT Aluminum heads, and the extra displacement of the 5.4 Liter engine. What does this mean? You don't have to downshift to eat your local Civics, and Trans Ams alive, kicking and screaming


The steering is much more direct then the 03/04 Cobra and also much more immediate. I take this down to both good geometries, as well as having more then 3x as much chassis regidity as the previous generation.

Handling is eons above the 03/04 IRS Cobra... In fact, its suprising how much so, mid corner speeds are much higher. It is suprising that Ford could make this car handle as good as it does for being a 3900 lb. car. Well done!.


What are the most positive features of the car?
Handling, Power, Solid feel, and the sound! OH the sound!




What are the most negative features of the car?
You cannot buy one yet. It is a heavy car.

How do you think this car compares to its direct competition?
Nothing touches the Mustang Shelby GT500. Perhaps in a year, others will be close (a roumoured SRT-8 Challenger, and the roumored Camaro SS) As much as everybody knows that the number one reason why people buy the GT500/Cobra is because they couldn't get a Corvette... this car isn't the same as one. But... on the street, where everything counts, the better driver will win.


Conclusion
The car that will be the fastest from Ford for the interim without a supercar for sale.... the most accessible 500 hp you will find anywhere.

Specifications
500 hp/ 475 ft. lbs.
3900 or so lbs.
T 56 6 speed
5.4 liter supercharged DOHC V8
157 mph top speed

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Old 06-21-2006, 02:34 PM   #2
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So - hows the heater work then?
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Old 06-21-2006, 02:43 PM   #3
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I like it a lot, and it's a bargain for the performances
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Old 06-21-2006, 02:49 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by yg60m
I like it a lot, and it's a bargain for the performances
A C6 Corvette can be had for a couple (literally) grand more, which doesn't pig out on gas, and isn't a complete tank. The GT500 may have 500hp to the C6's 400, but the GT500 just weighs so bloody much that the extra power is completely negated in terms of performance, with the C6 equaling or beating the GT500 in basically every performance catagory. Sure the C6 doesn't have back seats, but it's not like you'd be buying a GT500 for an everyday soccer-mom mobile anyways.

Bottom line: I find it to be a huge disappointment.
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but it's not like you'd be buying a GT500 for an everyday soccer-mom mobile anyways.

Bottom line: I find it to be a huge disappointment.
have you driven both?

and why wouldn't you drive the GT500 every day?
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Old 06-21-2006, 02:54 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by nickthaskater
Originally Posted by yg60m
I like it a lot, and it's a bargain for the performances
A C6 Corvette can be had for a couple (literally) grand more, which doesn't pig out on gas, and isn't a complete tank. The GT500 may have 500hp to the C6's 400, but the GT500 just weighs so bloody much that the extra power is completely negated in terms of performance, with the C6 equaling or beating the GT500 in basically every performance catagory. Sure the C6 doesn't have back seats, but it's not like you'd be buying a GT500 for an everyday soccer-mom mobile anyways.

Bottom line: I find it to be a huge disappointment.
Well - chicks and hairdressers buy the C6 Coupe anyway... while manly men on a budget would get the GT500...
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Old 06-21-2006, 02:58 PM   #7
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Men on a budget that have no brains maybe. Yay for buying a glorified Mustang that weighs 3,900lbs and can't beat a car (even in a straight line) with 100hp less for essentially the same price.

I've seen more than a few 'chicks' driving Mustangs, hell, even a leading female on 'The OC' had a Mustang GT.

If taking a C6 Coupe over the GT500 makes me a chick or a hairdresser, well, good luck seeing how much I care because the only thing you'd be seeing in a GT500, is a standard Mustang interior, and my rear licence plate.
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Old 06-21-2006, 03:00 PM   #8
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the only thing you'd be seeing in a GT500, is a standard Mustang interior, and my rear licence plate.
shows how much you know about mustangs, nearly nothing... and shows you didnt' read the review either

the interiors are vastly different
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Old 06-21-2006, 03:03 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by nickthaskater
If taking a C6 Coupe over the GT500 makes me a chick or a hairdresser, well, good luck seeing how much I care because the only thing you'd be seeing in a GT500, is a standard Mustang interior, and my rear licence plate.
So - you are more concerned about interior than anything else then?

Interesting - but a badly driven C6 Coupe would be struggling to keep up with a badly driven GT500.

That 100hp is a big difference... just ask all those C5 Coupe guys in the 350bhp cars that got their arse handed to them by 450bhp SVT's
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Originally Posted by nthfinity
the only thing you'd be seeing in a GT500, is a standard Mustang interior, and my rear licence plate.
shows how much you know about mustangs, nearly nothing... and shows you didnt' read the review either

the interiors are vastly different
Haha shows how much I know about Mustangs? The only thing different in the GT500's interior are the seats, the steering wheel, and some SVT gauges. The rest is standard fare.

And no I haven't driven both, but I've read up on both quite a bit, have seen reviews etc. Enough that I feel I can formulate a reasonably educated opinion on the matter.

I know for a fact that the C6 is faster in a straight line, and around a track, I know the C6 has more cargo space, I know the C6 drinks less fuel, I know the C6 doesn't have an irritating blower whine, the C6 doesn't understeer like the front-heavy GT500, and reportedly, the Corvette has a lighter clutch than the GT500, making everyday driving a lot less of a chore.

So yea, based on those facts, and probably others that I haven't bothered to get into, I would gladly take the C6 over the GT500. If I were to get a Ford, I would just get an '04 Cobra instead. It's cheaper, it makes a crapload of power, its lighter, it has IRS, and it's pretty much just as quick as this new GT500.

Don't know anything...Sure.
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Haha shows how much I know about Mustangs? The only thing different in the GT500's interior are the seats, the steering wheel, and some SVT gauges. The rest is standard fare.

And no I haven't driven both, but I've read up on both quite a bit, have seen reviews etc. Enough that I feel I can formulate a reasonably educated opinion on the matter.
contradicting statements here, mate.

so, when you drive both, then make an educated opinion.

oh, and I've driven the 03/04 Cobra at some lenght, and the 07 is MILES better in most regards, and on the street, the GT500 is faster by a lot... but in the 1/4 with a pro driver, the GT500 will only be slightly faster...

the difference comes from the torque delivery.

the C6 doesn't feel as fast on throttle as the GT500... its in a different segment.
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Old 06-21-2006, 03:17 PM   #12
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How is that contradictive? I don't have to drive both to have an opinion on it, because it's just that, an opinion. You don't have to agree with my opinion, or take anything I'm saying as fact, so no, I'm just fine and dandy using the knowledge I have to make an opinion on the matter.

Car and Driver agrees with me anyways haha, and I'll take their view over yours any day of the week.
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Old 06-21-2006, 03:21 PM   #13
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Is it possible to have a stripped out mustang with 500hp? C'mon.. even the last Cobra SVT R was a fat pig..but sure looked mean as hell!

Mustangs were oringially pony cars.. the lighter quicker of the muscle car era right?

Either way, AMAZING pics nfinity.. you sure are improving quite drastically with all these amazing indepth photoshoots.

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Old 06-21-2006, 03:23 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by nickthaskater
How is that contradictive? I don't have to drive both to have an opinion on it, because it's just that, an opinion. You don't have to agree with my opinion, or take anything I'm saying as fact, so no, I'm just fine and dandy using the knowledge I have to make an opinion on the matter.
Hehehe - so whats the point of a 'Members Review" if people are just going come in and quote car & driver etc etc and CLAIM that they know which is better.

JabbasWorld has a rule... Pics or STFU.

So - untill you HAVE driven both, perhaps you shoudl keep the "opions" to the regular Car Chat forum.. as this one is about ACtual Member Reviews - where counterpoints need to be validated by test drives.

Which again, is why I say there should be at least some rudimentary test data recorded to back up what the reviewer says.



I can tell you this much, in my opinionthe C6 Coupe is a slow turning, bad handling, numb, dog slow, poser chick car

But without some test data for me to back up my opinion - it's just my biased, subjective opinion.

Originally Posted by nickthaskater
Car and Driver agrees with me anyways haha, and I'll take their view over yours any day of the week.
And here I thought that "we trust the opinions of a fellow enthusiast more than a magazine tester".. Apparently not..
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Old 06-21-2006, 03:30 PM   #15
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Why would I trust his opinion more than that of a professional reviewer? You think the people who make a living out of driving and writing about cars aren't 'fellow enthusiasts'?

Jeez you people sure can be stuck up around here.
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