06-22-2004, 03:03 PM
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well are those in US dollars at the second part?
360CS about $180,000
Murcielago $300,000
SLR probably around $400,000
GT2 around $150,000
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06-22-2004, 03:14 PM
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purchasing power parity ..
An economic method of comparing real money valuation by looking at the costs of a similar item across locales.
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06-22-2004, 03:45 PM
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This is a repost but ....
RS6 Avant 190 thousand dollars
Ferrari 360 Spider 320 thousand dollars
Porsche 911 GT2 374 thousand dollars
MB SL500 200 thousand dollars
Porsche Cayenne Turbo 180 thousand dollars
Porsche 911 Turbo 210 Thousand Dollars
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06-22-2004, 03:47 PM
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Can't buy any of them cars over here. Pay the price in Germany, then a bit more to get it taxed.
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06-22-2004, 03:56 PM
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Here in brazil there's a pretty basic equation for cars..especially the ones we all like (ferrari, porsche, bmw etc...)
1. Take the price in dollars, and double it...
2. Convert this price into the currency here (real) by x' it by 3.16(the present value of the dollar in reais)
3. add tax and shipping rates(could get to about 50 000 reais, depends a lot on the car) and you roughly have a price of a good car here in brazil..
For example, Lambo Gallardo, 1, 010, 000 reais roughly (i can't remember properly)
Mini cooper S - 53,000 US$...about 160,000 reais, the price of a '96 carrera 2
shocking isn't it...that's because i didnt mention the few people who try to bring classic cars from england...(instead of X'ing by 3, X by 5...)
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06-22-2004, 04:01 PM
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..and please also throw into the mix the average starting salary for a junior, mid and senior worker - as well as housing rent and purchase - and some bare essentials as well, say gasoline, bread, milk and beer...
I have done this math so many times (both before and after moving to the USA) and it is astounding just how cheap and easy it is to live in the USA.
And remember, we are talking basic survival here - you finish school, and enter the world without parental money and you are not about to live in Hollywood, or Monaco or Mid-town Manhattan etc.
Just a regular working stiff trying to stay alive.
Lets make this a "real world comparison".
You will be surprised...
The locations
UK
USA
France
Belgium
Australia
South Africa
Mexico
Iraq
India
Brazil
The Players
High school graduate: Bob
3 year college graduate: Maria
4 year univarsity graduate: Helga
Trade school graduate: Sven
The jobs they manage to get
a.) Fast Food Worker:
b.) Entry level Office Clerk:
c.) Post Graduate Intern:
d.) Retail Sales:
e.) Other:
The money they make in each job in the target countries in LOCAL currency.
UK
a.)
b.)
c.)
d.)
e.)
USA
a.)
b.)
c.)
d.)
e.)
France
a.)
b.)
c.)
d.)
e.)
Belgium
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b.)
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Australia
a.)
b.)
c.)
d.)
e.)
South Africa
a.)
b.)
c.)
d.)
e.)
Mexico
a.)
b.)
c.)
d.)
e.)
Iraq
a.)
b.)
c.)
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India
a.)
b.)
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Brazil
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The taxes they pay
Expressed as a percentage of their income
UK
USA
France
Belgium
Australia
South Africa
Mexico
Iraq
India
Brazil
The prices of goods and services they try buy expressed as a percentage of their annual income
Used 4-door 2l econo-sedan
UK
USA
France
Belgium
Australia
South Africa
Mexico
Iraq
India
Brazil
New Toyota Corolla base model:
UK
USA
France
Belgium
Australia
South Africa
Mexico
Iraq
India
Brazil
New 600cc motorcycle:
UK
USA
France
Belgium
Australia
South Africa
Mexico
Iraq
India
Brazil
Rent a 2 room apartment/flat:
UK
USA
France
Belgium
Australia
South Africa
Mexico
Iraq
India
Brazil
Buy a 3 bedroom house in a suburb:
UK
USA
France
Belgium
Australia
South Africa
Mexico
Iraq
India
Brazil
Buy a gallon/lire of fuel:
UK
USA
France
Belgium
Australia
South Africa
Mexico
Iraq
India
Brazil
Buy a 50" colour TV:
UK
USA
France
Belgium
Australia
South Africa
Mexico
Iraq
India
Brazil
Buy a fast food burger:
UK
USA
France
Belgium
Australia
South Africa
Mexico
Iraq
India
Brazil
Buy a movie ticket:
UK
USA
France
Belgium
Australia
South Africa
Mexico
Iraq
India
Brazil
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06-22-2004, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mers
Here in brazil there's a pretty basic equation for cars..especially the ones we all like (ferrari, porsche, bmw etc...)
1. Take the price in dollars, and double it...
2. Convert this price into the currency here (real) by x' it by 3.16(the present value of the dollar in reais)
3. add tax and shipping rates(could get to about 50 000 reais, depends a lot on the car) and you roughly have a price of a good car here in brazil..
For example, Lambo Gallardo, 1, 010, 000 reais roughly (i can't remember properly)
Mini cooper S - 53,000 US$...about 160,000 reais, the price of a '96 carrera 2
shocking isn't it...that's because i didnt mention the few people who try to bring classic cars from england...(instead of X'ing by 3, X by 5...)
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Its almost the same here , get hte price in the US , then add 95% of taxes and voila !!!
BTW the cooper is very expensive there , here its only 35 thousand dollars , and YOU guys in brazil make the ENGINE !!! that is crazy , maybe cuz of the production of cars in brazil they try to protect the national cars .
BTW , how much do they charge for an A3 1.8T made in brazil ?
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06-22-2004, 04:09 PM
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Lambo Murcielago: $200,000
GT2: $180,000
S500: $90,000
Lumina SS 5.7: $30,000
CL500: $100,000
745Li: $90,000
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06-22-2004, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ahmedgiyab
Lambo Murcielago: $200,000
GT2: $180,000
S500: $90,000
Lumina SS 5.7: $30,000
CL500: $100,000
745Li: $90,000
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Fuck man , you country does not pay taxes ? how is the average income per capita there ?
A GT2 at 180 is less than in germany , those are dollars right ?
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06-22-2004, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PATo355
Originally Posted by ahmedgiyab
Lambo Murcielago: $200,000
GT2: $180,000
S500: $90,000
Lumina SS 5.7: $30,000
CL500: $100,000
745Li: $90,000
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Fuck man , you country does not pay taxes ? how is the average income per capita there ?
A GT2 at 180 is less than in germany , those are dollars right ?
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There are no taxes... ...yes its in USD....
and sometimes yes the cars are cheaper than in Germany...also the
customs are very low...(app:3-4%)...
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06-22-2004, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ahmedgiyab
Lambo Murcielago: $200,000
GT2: $180,000
S500: $90,000
Lumina SS 5.7: $30,000
CL500: $100,000
745Li: $90,000
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Ok - so on a par with the USA... so I am guessing entry level cars will also be about $12,000 to $18,000 then.
What would an entry level job candidate earn?
$25,000 per annum? $40,000? $65,000? $80,000? $100,000?
I wonder in how many countries the entry level car is more than many peoples annual earnings - let alone the exotica...
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06-22-2004, 04:19 PM
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RC45 , look at my prices ,double the US ones , and an entry level Job candidate can earn something like 15k yearly . ( that is with studies , lawyer , economy or medician )
An an entry level car , like daewoo Tico , Hyunday Gets cost 5500 dollars , a 206 and fiesta 8500 dollars , a golf starting from 16000 dollars , a GCherokee 50000 dollars , a Porsche 911 C2 , 110000 dollars .
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06-22-2004, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ahmedgiyab
Lambo Murcielago: $200,000
GT2: $180,000
S500: $90,000
Lumina SS 5.7: $30,000
CL500: $100,000
745Li: $90,000
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:shock: :shock: :shock: fuck it, man...
€75k for a 745 Li!!!!!
i payed nearly €120k for a standard 745i
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06-22-2004, 05:09 PM
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yeah those prices seem a bit low they save $100,000 on a Murcielago that's insane!
Your the porsche man how does the GT2 price sound
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06-22-2004, 05:15 PM
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Just for a reference, Switzerland and our low taxes
Audi RS6 avant: 110'288 USD
360CS, no idea
Murcielago, around 248'000 USD I think, but seems a bit to low
SLR, no idea
996 GT2 is 225'675 USD
It would have been easier if you chose some common cars as it's not easy to find correct list price for supercars..
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