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[CSedl87]

Originally Posted by SFDMALEX Originally Posted by CSedl87 Originally Posted by SFDMALEX Originally Posted by CSedl87 Originally Posted by gtx28 Just out of curiousity who has the best stuff for sound quality forget about asthetics and price. What sounds the best. Ive heard very good things about linn, and harmon kardon. Jazz and Classical music seem to cover the widest spectrum of sound. Ive heard several musicians toting the bose sound wave stuff. Any input would be great If you want the best, no price too high, go for an all Linn system. Each speaker gets 3 amps (bass, mids, and highs). I beleive you can even run 4-6 amps per speaker if I remember correctly. Anyways, we've tested B&O, Harmon Kardon, etc. with the same exact CDs, and DVDs and Linn by far had the most clear sound (in stereo, as surround CDs, and audio DVD's loose alot unless they're channeled into 5.1 or higher). There was one cd I remember that had the 1812 overture on it and it had fireworks and bells as part of the song. In stereo, we could hear the fireworks explode in different spots, front back, left, and right of us. It was full 3d sound in stereo! Also there was another cd of Frank Sinatra and the rat pack. We could hear the chord slides on a Jazz chello, and the recording was about 50 years old. The sound on the Linn is amazing, if you get the chance to listen to it, go do it, it's an experience of it's own. What a load of shit 3 seperate amps? Thats the funiest thing I have ever heard. I guess its the fad for rich idiots who just go for the price tag. Since when is music supposed to be surround? when a band performs you are in front of them, they do not surround you. So when people talk about music and surround sound it just show that they are morons. Full 3d sound in Stereo? What the fuck is that? You mean 2 monitors and a delay surround emulation? All you can get from two monitors is cheap emulation of actuall 3d sound, they do it by simple delays, you can never feel as if something is in behind you when the speaker is in front of you. If you want the best sound from the good old CD(not dvd audio or SACD) then get your self a CD player build around the TDA1541 DAC, find your self one of those home made english transistor amps(none of that tube shit, another fad for wannabe audiophiles) and some JAMOs. If anybody is serious about superior audio quality you can not just go out and buy the stuff from the catalog. You have to listen to hundres of different amps and speakers to find the best stuff. No we didn't go for the price tag. There are by far more expensive audio equipment that what we've got. First off you must not know much about audio. Our front speakers have five cones (we're running 1 amp to each cones), and our rears have 3 cones (so a total of 3 amps to each whole speaker). If you want a pic of all of our amps I'll be more than happy to post a picture if you don't believe me. The fact that you just mention a cd player, an amp, and a couple speakers tells me that you yourself are not an audiophile. The wires play a large role, just as large as the speakers, cd player, and amps. We have the wires matched to the frequency of each cone, so there is very close to no unwanted frequencys in each cone. DVD audio can be better than CD audio, but you have to find an album where it has been made for DVD audio, thats why it hasn't truly been accepted yet b/c 95% of the albums on the DVDs were just remastered. As for the sounds around you, yes it is possible on just stereo. The Linn system gives depth to it's music, compared to otheres where it's just that, stereo, a monoplane of music. Ok there Mr "Audiophile" enjoy your setup. Your multy amp setup is some real audiophile sheet. First time I hear of an "audiophile" running a surrond setup for music. Laugh out fucking loud! Wires play as big a role as speakers...... :roll: You have wires running to the frequency of each cone AHAHAHAHAHAHAH And WTF is that for my friend? They make some special 15-100hz, 100-500hz wires now? AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAH Its called a friggin crossover................ What are your amps frequency depended aswel? So you have a woofer amp, a high frequncy amp?.................lol Your hillarious. And no I dont need no pictures, Ive heard enough. And you have to learn to read too. DVD Audio is better then a normal audio CD because it allows 3x the sampling rate and higher dynamic range. Oh and as for sounds around you, read my posts again. Thanks for making my day, I had quite a laugh.

Point out where I've said we listen to music in surround? It's setup so it plays music in stereo, and movies in surround. And yes wires do play as large of a role as speakers, amps, etc. If you have crappy wires you get large amounts of interference and unwanted noises, also different wires are better at transmitting different frequency ranges. We run a single amp to every cone, You should stop listening to your Best Buy "audio setup" and start listening to real sound, you'll be amazed.

If anybody is serious about superior audio quality you can not just go out and buy the stuff from the catalog. You have to listen to hundres of different amps and speakers to find the best stuff.

The only intelligent thing you've said. It took us about a year to get our setup to what it is today. We went to alot of different shops listening to different speakers, those different speakers each to several different amps, each to several different cd players, etc. Just b/c you want to sound like an audiophile doesn't mean need to post blabberings of what you think. Do what you've said and test many different setups as we have. Once you've done that, and listened to a well setup Linn system, then come back and start talking. Untill then you're the one who is making somebody laugh.

[MercedeSChink]

which system should i get if i want one dat can be so loud it will rip the clothes of a girl!?

[CSedl87]

Originally Posted by MercedeSChink which system should i get if i want one dat can be so loud it will rip the clothes of a girl!?

haha, good way to end a "heated discussion." Good movie I must say, makes me wanna watch it again...

[Pokiou]

im quiet amused with the insults thrown at each other here.. look what ever sounds good to your ear i must say ... u can have a 10000000000 dollar setup and a cheap 200 stereo from you local market. if you dont know what to listen for and how to listen to music there all gonna sound the same ..

but i must admit my grandma's B&O is the shizzle keep it rizzle

[gtx28]

Thank you all for your input im going to take a look and see what i favor. I tend to hear and notice alot more than most so i prefer higher quality equipment.

Laugh out fucking loud! Wires play as big a role as speakers...... Rolling Eyes You have wires running to the frequency of each cone AHAHAHAHAHAHAH And WTF is that for my friend? They make some special 15-100hz, 100-500hz wires now? AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAH Its called a friggin crossover................ What are your amps frequency depended aswel? So you have a woofer amp, a high frequncy amp?.................lol

No offence bro but some of what he is saying kinda makes sense its simple physics. If the wires to each speaker are wound in a way that causes less interpolation, and feed back you have less noise on the line hense less static. If the wire guage and windings are carefully chosen for the frequency and feedback then your resistance will be optimum for the chosen amplifier. And if each amplifier is shielded from electrical noise i would guess that the reproduced sound would have greater clarity in that frequency band.

THx Ikon2003 for the input i will check out those companies from his list.

Sfdmalex I checked out some Jamo stuff looks like a high quality product sexy lookin too hehe. I will see if anyone in town carries them thx for the info.


Just out of curiousity, does anyone have any webbys for dvd sound, sound tuning utilities like whitesound etc. Also any webbys with definitions for the ratings on the equipment class a b c d etc. In mobile audio a class d amp is supposed to be pretty good stuff but in the home theator stuff it seems class a is the highest?? so anyhelp is always appreciated.

[findleybeast]

Amplifier rating classes has gotten a lot more complicated in recent years. There are still the most common ones - A, AB, B, and D - but there are new technologies composing classes G, H, I, T, X, and there are probably others. Many of those are essentially modified versions of class D. Wikipedia has a pretty good rundown of most of the amplifier classes here

here's a quick summary of the common ones
Class A - most accurate, but extremely inefficient. Too inefficient to use in many amplifier settings
Class B - Much more efficient than class A, but they inherent distortion and so aren't very well liked
Class A/B - A combination of class A and B, higher efficiency than A but more accurate than B. This is the most common in speaker amps
Class D - Output is just on/off pulses, no variation. Extremely efficient, but not typically accurate enough to operate full range speakers. Generally used only for subwoofer applications

time for this topic to take a trip to the correct forum

[RC45]

You are all a bunch of audio-video nerds.

The only sound you need is a straight pipe push rod V8.

Period.

You want music? Go for a drive.

When at home - screw the radio/cd/audio crap - pure silence and read a good book, the sound of children playing in the back yard - the clinging, clanking of dishes in the kitchen as family shares company - watch a movie on TV - go to sleep..

I never did get peoples obsession with audio systems... if you want the "real deal" go listen to a concert.

Don't even get me started on then stupid iPod draped idiots wondering around town... - but that's another topic...

[gtx28]

You are all a bunch of audio-video nerds. The only sound you need is a straight pipe push rod V8. Period. You want music? Go for a drive. When at home - screw the radio/cd/audio crap - pure silence and read a good book, the sound of children playing in the back yard - the clinging, clanking of dishes in the kitchen as family shares company - watch a movie on TV - go to sleep..

No offence bro cause your still young, but you sounded like my old man just then.

My first car was an 85 Camaro had a great exhaust system when i got it but no radio. I wanted to blow a bunch of cash on a new radio and my dad asked why sayin all i need is the sound from my tail pipes, and thats all i had for a few months.


Unfortunatly im not married yet so no kids no wife. So quiet back yard at the moment. That rules that out.

O and how come go surf jabbas world and find something to be creative and give back wasnt among your colorful gripes lol.

PS:RC did you get my pm im curious to see if your ok and what not????

[RC45]

Originally Posted by gtx28 No offence

None taken..

Originally Posted by gtx28 bro cause your still young, but you sounded like my old man just then. My first car was an 85 Camaro had a great exhaust system when i got it but no radio. I wanted to blow a bunch of cash on a new radio and my dad asked why sayin all i need is the sound from my tail pipes, and thats all i had for a few months.

The only way to fly - no music and all pipes..

Originally Posted by gtx28 Unfortunatly im not married yet so no kids no wife.

Don't rush it - sow your wild oats while you can... heheh

Originally Posted by gtx28 O and how come go surf jabbas world and find something to be creative and give back wasnt among your colorful gripes lol.

My bad

Originally Posted by gtx28 PS:RC did you get my pm im curious to see if your ok and what not????

Yeah - sorry about that - I have PM notification turned off... heheh

Yeah - GM have bigger problems to worry about these days - things like staying out of bankruptcy court... -

Originally Posted by RC45 You are all a bunch of audio-video nerds. The only sound you need is a straight pipe push rod V8. Period. You want music? Go for a drive. When at home - screw the radio/cd/audio crap - pure silence and read a good book, the sound of children playing in the back yard - the clinging, clanking of dishes in the kitchen as family shares company - watch a movie on TV - go to sleep.. I never did get peoples obsession with audio systems... if you want the "real deal" go listen to a concert. Don't even get me started on then stupid iPod draped idiots wondering around town... - but that's another topic...

hehhe don't forget RC, not all of us drive V8's some of us drive 998cc minis, which while nice sounding generally does tend to get a tad annoying at high revs on the motorway Its a simple choice, go deaf to a screaming engine or Music..... hmmmm tough one, so sometimes i NEED music when i go for a drive as for home just bog standard Samsung surround kit for movies, i don't have bat ears (cue audiophiles ) don't even have another stereo at uni cos i wouldn't be able to fit it in the car to go home

[gtx28]

GM have bigger problems to worry about these days - things like staying out of bankruptcy court...

Thats cool bro, good point too. Not sure if youve ever known any Italians, but for some reason the family thing makes us snap. I usually have excellent self control but when it comes to threats and family I snap. So I was just checkin to see if you and the fam were ok.